Abilities and Technologies: Speculation based on Science, Metaphysics, and Magic

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Phibrizzo

Considering how astral in hand works a angel can pull this (at least choose a star that would).

But still no way anything below Fianma level is pulling a GRB

[tsunade666]

angels can move stars but that's an arch angel and no ordinary angel. I don't see anyone below fiamma pulling that kind of stunt. Even fiamma before the alignment is complete can't do it. That's why he needs an archangel to do it.

[Cosmic Eagle]

And to note how strong a GRB is.....if one occurred at the nearest star system.....our planet is a microwaved cinder.

[Asuras]

Well, for one thing, GRB's are usually linear. They don't explode in a 360 degree area. So one being in the nearest star system won't necessarily hit us.

But yes, the ray would melt our planet.

[Essa Maneira]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

And to note how strong a GRB is.....if one occurred at the nearest star system.....our planet is a microwaved cinder.

yeah i saw on documentary on tv, when one side of the planet hits by GRB, it is spread the effects of radiation to the remaining parts of planet...

except for: Accelarator (oh no he can't do that that process internally )

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Essa Maneira

yeah i saw on documentary on tv, when one side of the planet hits by GRB, it is spread the effects of radiation to the remaining parts of planet...

except for: Accelarator (oh no he can't do that that process internally )

Actually, if Accelerator continues to grow in power, I would think he might become capable of replicating a similar event.

[Inept Forum User]

Regarding Hliðskjálf and it's capacity to produce unknown power; is it sort of like a magic equivalent of Dark Matter, only with energy rather than matter?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Inept Forum User

Regarding Hliðskjálf and it's capacity to produce unknown power; is it sort of like a magic equivalent of Dark Matter, only with energy rather than matter?

matter and energy are technically the same, but thats for another time... Dark matter changes anything it touches including light energy. [Odin's throne] on the other hand simply converts the users magic into something else.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

matter and energy are technically the same, but thats for another time... Dark matter changes anything it touches including light energy. [Odin's throne] on the other hand simply converts the users magic into something else.

No....Dark Matter does whatever the hell Kakine wants it to. At least that's what his actions seem to imply.

[Seihai]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Well you can literally microwave something, exciting the molecules, cooking it from the inside... And not just living things.

So with cooking you mean if I were to concentrate radiation onto someone's arm, it would... uh, be roasted like on a grill? Or are there more options?

The Star collapses onto itself, Not only that you need trillions of mass, several times of our sun. One tiny Esper does not cut it, Gamma Ray Burst are out of this world powerful.

So the Gamma Ray Burst is the cause of the nova which describes a star collapsing onto itself? And the GRB depends on the scale of mass? Then even fictionally speaking and by sheer assumption that it would be possible, it simply isn't possible?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Vanish

So with cooking you mean if I were to concentrate radiation onto someone's arm, it would... uh, be roasted like on a grill? Or are there more options?

Depends on the type of Radiation. Basically when you blast someone with microwave radiation, you cook them from the inside out. Though its if you focus on the brain only they'll die with less smell... seen it on a show once...

X-ray and the likes on the other hand, its a matter of either you curing cancer, or giving cancer.

Originally Posted by Vanish

So the Gamma Ray Burst is the cause of the nova which describes a star collapsing onto itself? And the GRB depends on the scale of mass? Then even fictionally speaking and by sheer assumption that it would be possible, it simply isn't possible?

it's the result, not the cause. There seem to be otherfactors but mass is the key.

you can still have an esper use gamma radiation, just not that powerful.

[Seihai]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Depends on the type of Radiation. Basically when you blast someone with microwave radiation, you cook them from the inside out. Though its if you focus on the brain only they'll die with less smell... seen it on a show once...

X-ray and the likes on the other hand, its a matter of either you curing cancer, or giving cancer.

What kinda types of radiation are there or are there too many to list/count? Must be really painful to have your limbs cooked inside out.

You mentioned insta-kill before but if said ability can be controlled precisely, would a specific frequency of X-Rays be able to put a person into a desired state of cancer? For example the state before the person dies which I assume is the most painful one.

it's the result, not the cause. There seem to be otherfactors but mass is the key.

you can still have an esper use gamma radiation, just not that powerful.

Ahh, thanks. That makes more sense.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I know we probably don't have alot of mecha fans watching Index, but maybe this could spark some interest...

Academy City Deterrence Policy
"We destroy your house, crush your car, and burn down your city... But hey, at least you're still alive, right ?"

Power Suits

Spoiler for Large Weapon aka "Resistance is Futile":

Originally Posted by Armor

Their armor looks thin, but they should be able to take an anti-tank missile straight on.

Originally Posted by Mobility

The joints were moved using electric power and the flesh-and-blood human inside was given mobility anywhere from twice normal to dozens of times normal.

The artificial legs moved much more smoothly than a real human’s would have.

Astounding jumping power to travel 10 meters through the air.

For weapons with legs, balance was the biggest problem, but that weakness was not present with the powered suits. They could walk across crumbling ground even better than a real person could.

Even though the powered suits walked on two legs which was difficult to balance and were actually quite heavy, they moved without showing any signs of wobbling. They weren’t walking one step at a time like on level ground; they were moving smoothly like a cockroach.

The powered suits scanned the environment and automatically made the most optimal corrections for the situation.

Originally Posted by Firepower

Anti-barrier revolver shotguns.

The shells used in those guns were special. Inside a single shell were a few dozen bullets that would usually be classified as anti-materiel. Each shot could blow straight through a tank and at close range a few shots could force open the door to a nuclear shelter. Usually, the barrel wouldn’t hold up to the explosive force of the gunpowder, but, by delicately controlling the type and arrangement of the gunpowder, the direction of the explosive force could be controlled so that the lowest possible amount of damage was given to the barrel and the greatest possible amount of destructive force was released. This large weapon that had been developed for the purposes of breaking through the thick door of a shelter an enemy might be hiding inside.

The shotguns fired shells from those gun barrels that a human fist could easily fit inside.

Even when shooting blanks, the shock wave from the great explosion this caused was enough to knock the oxygen from a person’s lungs and knock them to the ground.

The powered suits would connect their shotguns to a metal backpack-like part on their backs to automatically reload.

(Shotgun?! It's a freaking Grenade-Launcher EX !)

Supersonic Stealth Bombers

Spoiler for HsB-02 aka "Slash and Burn":

Originally Posted by Fuel

When flying at supersonic speeds, air resistance raises the surface temperature of the fuselage significantly. When going at full speed, it approaches 1000 degrees, so there are pipes for liquid coolant throughout the entire thing. The pipes full of coolants with a low freezing point pass through these tanks to increase the cooling effect. Liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen are also used as propellant for space shuttles and are part of what is used as fuel here.

Originally Posted by Defense

Normally, bombers were protected by a few fighters.

But the HsB-02 supersonic bomber was different.

Since it could only fly straight, it was made so that it could shake off a missile just by flying straight.

Overwhelming speeds of over 7000 kph made that a reality. With air-to-air missiles fired by fighters and even surface-to-air missiles lying in wait at bombing points, the idea was to carry out the bombing and get out of range shortly after the lock was made.

The supersonic bomber changed the traditional rules of an air battle through pure power.

And when the Academy City high power stealth functionality was added in, it became next to impossible to defend against an attack from the HsB-02.

Originally Posted by Armament (Earth Blade)

It was a jet black blade about half as long as the bomber itself.

The blade was elongated like a baton and its surface was made so it could electrically contract. In 1/100 of a millimeter units, the concavity/convexity and pattern could be controlled. That long but sensitive blade sliced through the air as the supersonic bomber flew at 7000 kph. From that alone, the wind currents created by the blade held tremendous destructive power.

But what would happen if a small amount of iron sand was mixed in?

Only a few grams of iron sand were disseminated from the side of the blade.

Because that metal powder reached a tremendous speed higher than 10,000 kph, an orange flash cut into the ground even though it started from a few thousand meters in the air. The first blast had created a trench 20 meters across and 10 meters deep. Directly afterwards, the trench melted into orange and collapsed. The earth itself was being cooked until it was like magma.

With only 3 kilograms of iron sand and an hour, it could cut the entire supercontinent of Eurasia in two.

The Earth Blade gave the impression of being an overly imprecise attack, but, by electrically controlling the “pattern” on its surface, it could attack in a curve or in a single spot instead of in a straight line. It could cause destruction precise enough it could cut out a jigsaw puzzle piece. Apparently, a single bomber could make multiple lines at once if need be.

[j0x]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I know we probably don't have alot of mecha fans watching Index, but maybe this could spark some interest...

Academy City Deterrence Policy
"We destroy your house, crush your car, and burn down your city... But hey, at least you're still alive, right ?"

Power Suits

Spoiler for Large Weapon aka "Resistance is Futile":

Supersonic Stealth Bombers

Spoiler for HsB-02 aka "Slash and Burn":

so battle suits or mobile suits will be introduced on this show in the future?

[SuzushinaYuriko]

If you've seen Railgun, they already have. They do look quite weird though.

Powered suits will be used in season three if there is one.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by ckmox

so battle suits or mobile suits will be introduced on this show in the future?

The Power suits yeah, they are a sizable part of Academy City's war machines.

Originally Posted by yukirosuzuka

If you've seen Railgun, they already have. They do look quite weird though.

Railgun's suit gave the impression of them being slow and bulky. According to Tsuchimikado, the ones they deployed in France have insane mobility and balance, so much that they outperform a human doing the same movements. That is some crazy technology right there

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

The Power suits yeah, they are a sizable part of Academy City's war machines.



Railgun's suit gave the impression of them being slow and bulky. According to Tsuchimikado, the ones they deployed in France have insane mobility and balance, so much that they outperform a human doing the same movements. That is some crazy technology right there

Even though the ones used inFrance and vol 19 are just as bulky actually. It isn't until 20+ that they become more like human sized armour suits

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Even though the ones used inFrance and vol 19 are just as bulky actually. It isn't until 20+ that they become more like human sized armour suits

But that's also the crazy thing about the Power Suits used in France- To be able to move even just as good as a human being despite it's bulky size has to be some technological achievement. I don't think the machines of our world have yet replicate the human body.

[j0x]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

The Power suits yeah, they are a sizable part of Academy City's war machines.

Railgun's suit gave the impression of them being slow and bulky. According to Tsuchimikado, the ones they deployed in France have insane mobility and balance, so much that they outperform a human doing the same movements. That is some crazy technology right there

thats good as most sci-fi have some mecha anyway, and what about cybernetic body parts did the novel introduce some?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by ckmox

thats good as most sci-fi have some mecha anyway, and what about cybernetic body parts did the novel introduce some?

Yeah, but most sci-fi depicts large power suits as bulky and have balance issues...

Anyway Yes, some guy had parts of a power suit implanted into his body for superhuman physical performance. If you're talking about automails like for Fulmetal Alchemist, they have prosthetic parts.