Hayate no Gotoku manga (raw discussion only)

[Hiyono]

Originally Posted by Daisuke CP9

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Also, I think Himegami's name has been mentioned to him, possibly by Maria, and didn't recognize. Perhaps he isn't aware of hils older brother.

Originally Posted by LCeh

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So Hayate really wants to find this much older brother of his in the future.

Spoiler:

1) Hayate wants to find his older brother.
2) Himegami's name has indeed been mentioned to him, and he had no reaction.
.: Either he doesn't know his older brother's name (possible), or there go the Himegami theories.

[LCeh]

Whoa, not sure what happened, but chapter 146 came out really early this week.

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First page: "After telling you that I will support you and Hayate, I did something horrible... I betrayed you." Hina starts off the chapter with a bang!

She continues to tell hamster that on her birthday last month, Hayate was with her in the school and gave her a small gift and some insignificant memories. She goes on to say that she felt he gave her the gift as appreciation for the things she has done for him and nothing more, and it was then that she realized her own feelings... She yells out that she likes Hayate, and that she apologizes for not telling hamster earlier due to lack of courage.

There was silence for a page, and Hamster goes "Is this all you wanted to say?" Hina was shocked that hamster didn't react much, and it turns out that Hamster was expecting her to say something like "I am going out with Hayate and we have already done this and that"

Hamster goes on and says that she is currently happy with just seeing and being with Hayate, and that it doesn't bother her that Hayate hasn't given her a response to her confession. She also asks whether Hina was going to confess, but Hina says she probably won't do it for a while, since when a person confesses, she feels like that person has been defeated. She goes on to say that if he confesses, then she will gladly go out with him, but for her to make the first move is impossible.

They end their conversation by hamster saying this will be a race between whether hamster gets Hayate first, or Hayate confesses to Hina first.

Chapter ends with everyone looking up into the sky since some rich girl decided to have some fireworks.

[anselfir]

wow, something happening. imagine that.

[CJL13]

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Major props to Hina and Hamster.

[Sinta]

Originally Posted by CJL13

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Major props to Hina and Hamster.

Now if we can get Maria on the same bout maybe we can get a real harem going here.

[hchuang]

Something to the effect of "If I want to meet Hayate I can always do so. We are not separate by life or death, nor do we have any quarral. When we meet we can talk happily... even if I never get a response (to her confession)..." Basically Ayumu confessed to Hayate before because she feared that she'll never see him ever again because he was dropping out of his previous school. Now Ayumu is quite at ease because she knows that Hayate can be her friend for as far as she can see.

An admirably easy-going attitude yet surprisingly profound. The hamster wins more points in my book. This is a great highlight on why these characters in HnG are so likable.

Quite a stark contrast to School Days.

[LCeh]

Originally Posted by hchuang

Something to the effect of "If I want to meet Hayate I can always do so. We are not separate by life or death, nor do we have any quarral. When we meet we can talk happily... even if I never get a response (to her confession)..." Basically Ayumu confessed to Hayate before because she feared that she'll never see him ever again because he was dropping out of his previous school. Now Ayumu is quite at ease because she knows that Hayate can be her friend for as far as she can see.

An admirably easy-going attitude yet surprisingly profound. The hamster wins more points in my book. This is a great highlight on why these characters in HnG are so likable.

Quite a stark contrast to School Days.

That was a much better translation than I did. Thanks.

And yea, both Hina and Ayumu won major points in this chapter. Good to see.

[-Breakthrough-]

Oh and by the way, what's the name of that purple haired student council member who appeared wearing a kimono in the recent chapters in Sakuya's mansion, talking to Haruko?

[anselfir]

Originally Posted by Sinta

Now if we can get Maria on the same bout maybe we can get a real harem going here.

maria route is paradise lost

[Mentar]

*lol*

Okay, so THIS is how they manage to stave off Hina in 146 - I was wondering how they were gonna avoid having Hina confessing, because there was no chance it could work out. But by turning her "cannot lose!" mentality against her, they effectively managed to "reset" without really resetting directly. Nicely done.

Let's see if Hina regains some of her former positive-optimistic-selfconfident traction now!

[Turambar]

mmmm thank you very much LCeh, my morning of craptastic classes has brightened up considerably

[archanfels]

Actual plot development in HnG?! THIS IS MADNESS!

I Kid, sort of. After condamning this series as "School Rumble 2" aka "another failed-to-be-different romance manga" 10 months ago, these recent chapters restored some faith.

It's funny and bit sad that it's in a way like those lackluster shonen mangas (coughnarutocough) where the best chapters are the ones where the main characters are not in it (in this case Hayate/Nagi)

The author (forgot his name) dodged a potentially dramatic climax/hot situation by giving hamster the really easy-going attitude. A bit cliche if you ask me, the whole one player has no will to fight in the final showdown thingy. But still, developments are developments.(better dodge it than try take on some epic twist and utterly fail to handle the situation aka SR) And both Hamster and Hina get bonus points (especially Hamster, whose anime counterpart's annoyance makes baby jesus cry)

All in all good stuff, though the future still relies on how the author handles Hayate and Nagi. Both characters are getting boring and repetitive lately. And at this point he needs to address the ultimate question for all harem authors: Just what does Hayate has to make all these girls drool over him? And no, "being a nice guy" is no acceptable answer (may Akamatsu burn in hell for setting this dumbass pattern with his infamous Love Hina). Failure to address this issue will turn the series into another Love Hina/Ichigo 100% etc.

And finally a little off-topic: I often compare HnG to SR, and interestingly enough both series had some plot development in recent chapters (Madness, I know). Though I have to say HnG handled it way better than SR, which is not showing any signs of getting out of the ugly mess that is itself.

[LCeh]

Originally Posted by archanfels

All in all good stuff, though the future still relies on how the author handles Hayate and Nagi. Both characters are getting boring and repetitive lately. And at this point he needs to address the ultimate question for all harem authors: Just what does Hayate has to make all these girls drool over him? And no, "being a nice guy" is no acceptable answer (may Akamatsu burn in hell for setting this dumbass pattern with his infamous Love Hina). Failure to address this issue will turn the series into another Love Hina/Ichigo 100% etc.

I have the same worry as well, but the way things have been happening, I think the author will address it later on. I mean, he is doing a good job with the plot considering this started out almost like a brainless silly comedy.

[LCeh]

This chapter marks the 3rd year anniversary of serialization for Hayate, so this is a special chapter to celebrate.

Have only seen the raw of 147, and I don't understand Japanese, so I have no clue what happened, but...

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Seems like Nagi got sick, then long conversation between Nagi and Hayate, random "nice boat" reference (LOL Kenjiro-sensei is quick with these references ), Hayate reads storybook to Nagi, then all of a sudden Hina in maido costume (!!!) and the 3 girls from student council dressed in bunny suits.

Yea sorry, no clue what happened in this chapter yet.

[CJL13]

Originally Posted by LCeh

This chapter marks the 3rd year anniversary of serialization for Hayate, so this is a special chapter to celebrate.

Have only seen the raw of 147, and I don't understand Japanese, so I have no clue what happened, but...

Spoiler:

Seems like Nagi got sick, then long conversation between Nagi and Hayate, random "nice boat" reference (LOL Kenjiro-sensei is quick with these references ), Hayate reads storybook to Nagi, then all of a sudden Hina in maido costume (!!!) and the 3 girls from student council dressed in bunny suits.

Yea sorry, no clue what happened in this chapter yet.

Sounds like a big helping of fanservice. Imagine if Nagi turns into a Kotohana, good thing Hamster and Hina are learning to fight like gentlewomen.

[LCeh]

148 preview spoiler:

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New school term, so classes got rearranged again. Looks like most of the more central characters are in the same class, including Hina and the 3 student council members with Hayate.

[Sylphic]

wow again thanks for the summaries LCeh.

Really looking forward to getting my hands on a volume 13 tankoban..

[anselfir]

in 147

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nagi bedsick, and everyone except hayate has to attend to business elsewhere, leaving hayate and nagi alone in the mansion. typical interaction ensues. nagi being reluctantly clingy and hayate reads nagi a manga/story in big brother fashion. The story is, alice in wonderland, with hina as alice. there wasn't much going on with this little diversion.

interesting things, for me anyway:

we've got the NICE BOAT reference.
hatsune miku reference
cute moments with goddess maria
some hina cameo

[frustra]

I've read up to volume 6 and I like what I see so far. The anime has yet to animate the best parts of the earlier volumes.

aargh it's times like this when I wish I could understand kanji ^_^

[Var]

Originally Posted by anselfir

maria route is paradise lost

When did that happen? Seems like its just as vaguely possible as all the other things presented.

In reading the raw in what has been about a day, I noticed a trend. The mangaka seems to like going back and forth between the three girls, Maria, Hina, and Hamster, with some side interaction between Hayate and Nagi. So far I don't think I've seen any one definite route that seems obvious and the opposite is also true. Which is a good thing, he's focusing more on the comedy and the comedy revolving around the unresolved drama, than on the drama.