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View Poll Results: How does long titles in light novels affect your anticipation in its story? | |||
Very much, positively. | 1 | 0.78% | |
Not much, but it makes the series interesting. | 10 | 7.81% | |
It doesn't bother me at all. | 68 | 53.13% | |
Not much, but worries me a bit. | 30 | 23.44% | |
Very much, negatively. | 19 | 14.84% | |
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2013-01-16, 22:10 | Link #1 |
Princess or Plunderer?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: the Philippines
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"I can't possibly believe that this light novel series' title is so long!"
With the release of the light novel series Yusha ni Narenakatta Ore wa Shibushibu Shushoku wo Ketsui Shimashita. (lit., "I reluctantly decided to find a job because I couldn't become Yusha."), I finally realized that this is the era of light novels with excessively long titles (and anime series with long titles too, by extension). I'm sure that most of us had our first encounter with long titles (subtitles not included) with Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai (or Oreimo), which seems like the light novel series that spearheaded the "long title movement", and light novels with mile-long titles like in Oreimo have started to sprout like mushrooms after that.
I have to admit that these long titles make me wonder about what happened to the "Titles should be easy to remember" part in naming a literary work. Most light novel series are much better titled using their shortcuts a that mess of words which is basically a whole sentence with the basic premise of the series (see OreShura, which is the shortcut for "Ore no... ah, crap, I forgot.) Ah, it's "Ore no somethingsomething Shuraba Sugiru". I'm so sorry. Well, you get my point. They are difficult to memorize. Anyway, with the sudden increase of light novels with these, one has to wonder if the quality of these works are just the same as that of more conventionally-titled works like Spice and Wolf and Kino no Tabi. I feel that some of them have a less spectacular plot and using the title as some kind of hook to get some readers, but I don't think it's working for me. How about you? Does the marathon-of-a-title in some light novels these days contribute to how you anticipate its plot? EDIT: Extra question: Do you think that a book with the title "I Kicked A Burning Terrorist So Hard in the Balls that I Tore a Tendon in My Foot!" would sell decent overseas?
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2013-01-16, 22:17 | Link #2 |
Last Engage
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Florida
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Not necessarily. While extra long titles are often associated with novelty works, I don't believe the title is always going to be a reflection of quality. It's very likely that the author may not have decided on the title themselves, as I know that marketing sometimes has a habit of renaming things in ways that don't make sense at first glance. (Like stripping the "Green" out of Arrow or the "of Mars" from John Carter. This is like that, but in reverse.)
A long title usually indicates a comedy (or an attempt at one), and almost all of these do try for some laughs, though even that has exceptions. (AnoHana comes to mind, as does Moshidora.) What I'm saying is, it's no one thing. I believe there's the old adage of not judging a book by its cover? That's the short version for here. |
2013-01-16, 22:18 | Link #4 |
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Age: 41
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I tend to think this is sort of an internal joke among authors and publishers that became a "trend". It's difficult to pick a good, short, memorable, and unique title these days given the sea of other works out there, and in the end it always gets abbreviated to a short form by the fans anyway. So this way the authors and publishers can make a title that verbosely describes the premise, and let the fans shorten it in common speech. It's not like people are going to be writing out the title by hand anyway and on computers you can either use the "slang" title, or just Google it.
I don't think the "less-spectacular" plot necessarily has anything to do with the name, but many of these works are being published in the same or similar publications with similar themes and designed to appeal to similar target audiences... so they often have more in common than just the titles. Having similar titles may also be designed in small part to help connect fans of one work to other similar works they may enjoy... but that's not necessarily always the case either.
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2013-01-16, 22:26 | Link #5 |
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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It's been going on for quite some time, I think.
And I seem to remember reading an article or an interview with an author regarding this long titles, but I can't for the life of me remember where I read it or what the detail contents were And if I may, I seem to see this trend going on in the galge world too (that galge about time traveling baby is a recent example).
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2013-01-16, 22:27 | Link #6 | |||
Princess or Plunderer?
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Location: the Philippines
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2013-01-16, 22:29 | Link #7 |
Last Engage
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Florida
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I have noticed that the longer a VN's title is, the more likely it is that it's going to be depraved. Like everything, this isn't always a constant (like the example you gave), but it's a good rule of thumb. I am glad Japan is keeping the "long title" thing alive, though. Just saying them makes me smile, for some reason.
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2013-01-16, 23:08 | Link #8 |
Okuyasu the Bird
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Alberta, Canada
Age: 32
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I'm not a light novel enthusiast, in fact I dislike novels in general, but I do understand your sentiments. More often than not when an anime with an awfully long title is announced it does tend to be an adaptation of a light novel, and usually those with said long titles appear to be very below-average to un-likeable material for me, but I think that's just a coincidence. The only personal exception I've found to this so far is I Don't Have Many Friends.
A short title doesn't really equate to quality, it's all subjective really. A Certain Magical Index and Sword Art Online are decent from what I've seen of them, but then at the other end of the spectrum I've found much crummier works like Infinite Stratos and The Familiar of Zero. In the end, I think it's just a lack of creativity and thought. I imagine sometimes it can be difficult to come up with distinct title representing your work that everyone can remember easily, and it may not necessarily include any elements that are worth naming your work after either. I suppose the next best thing after that is just to describe the concept of the work right in the title itself. Heck, manga is starting to succumb to it too lately. It's not just limited to light novels. Not quite as bad though I believe.
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2013-01-16, 23:17 | Link #9 | |
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I don't think it matters that much since everyone is going to give it a nickname or abbreviation anyway....
It's only a burden when you're asking a dealer at a con if they have any merchandise from "BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLABLAHBLAH" And they go "..........sorry, what?" Quote:
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2013-01-16, 23:20 | Link #10 |
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"I welcome our Excessively Titled Overlords of the New Age who can't come up with anything creative." XD
It doesn't affect my expectations of the plot but it is going to get me to watch it eventually moreso than other things. I'd share my joke with more people but I don't have many friends. The BokuTomo opening is playing on my mp3 player right now. Go figure.
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2013-01-16, 23:25 | Link #13 |
Nekokota Festival
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest
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Well I geass it look better in Kanji then in engilsh Well all they have to do is change the title to make it shorter if it was to make it overseas but manga proves the title have no meaning to it such as I Don't Like You at All, Big Brother!! released by seven seas
It would be nice if they would release more lite novel in the US
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2013-01-17, 00:10 | Link #15 |
Princess or Plunderer?
Join Date: May 2009
Location: the Philippines
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^ Now that you've reminded me, my main concern with long titles is how so many light novel series with incest or suggestive incest themes are coming up. Well, I can't blame them since Oreimo did earn a lot.
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2013-01-17, 02:01 | Link #19 |
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Academy City
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I feel like this Twitter feed is relevant: https://mobile.twitter.com/ln_title_bot/tweets
Lately, it seems like the light novel industry are confusing titles with plot summaries. I remember an UN-GO Inga Nikki special that poked fun at this.
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