2012-04-30, 13:30 | Link #8421 | |
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Probably their maybe a few that hang around though. even the not equals dissapeared aside from one. |
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2012-04-30, 13:33 | Link #8422 | |
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2012-04-30, 13:44 | Link #8423 | |
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Anybody know if Wanizuka's the most popular among the Middle Schoolers? On another note, can't say I'm too happy Wani's using a gun...what happened to her sword? ! |
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2012-04-30, 13:55 | Link #8424 |
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The reason Wanizuka is recurring probably has to do with her backstory as Munakata's sister (she used to be an Abnormal, remember) and her future relationship with Akune. None of the other cadets had nearly an equivalent amount of setup.
It remains to be seen whether Nishio will introduce some particular greater significance to any of the fiance candidates, but I don't think long-term relevance to the story will be decided on the basis of popularity. |
2012-04-30, 14:56 | Link #8425 | |
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On the contrary, isn't that exactly why she ended up being Munakata's sister? Munakata was ridiculously popular for someone who never showed up, ever, and then he suddenly gets two plot twists added to his resume? I don't doubt that Nisio is skilled enough to make the fact that she's his sister actually mean something (probably another 50 chapters down the line), but I also think it's a bit naive to imagine that he planned for her to have such importance. Or rather, for being Munakata's sister to even be something that might be considered important. |
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2012-04-30, 15:20 | Link #8426 |
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It's seems mostly obvious at this point that Nisio has a rough idea for Medaka box but dosn't have it planned in a very, very detailed manner e.g Oda's level of detail or even anything remotely comparable.
The fact that there was a genre shift part way through manga due to poor reception that he likely didn't expect makes it very likely. Also the general set up for this arc hints further to this. He's probably planned the most major plot points but likely winging it in a fair bit of the others. I doubt he panders all that much to popularity though, mostly just bits here and their as well as given certain populars charactersa bit morw focus than they otherwise would have gotten but nothing significant, in whatever he currently has in mind for the grand plot of the manga. |
2012-04-30, 16:06 | Link #8428 | |
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2012-04-30, 16:41 | Link #8431 | |
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Again, Nisio simply doesn't write light, episodic plotless stories like that. |
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2012-04-30, 16:42 | Link #8432 |
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Agreed. You have got to be dumb to not notice how Nisio had the genre shift already in mind. You just need to look at Medaka in the early chapters to understand she's not your normal average girl. Plus Zenkichi during chapter 13: "Medaka-chan's 4th trump card (Perses Mode)... I better not tell you anything about that." (while talking to Kikaijima)
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2012-04-30, 16:50 | Link #8433 | |
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Point was Nisio likely put in a heck of a lot more standard shounen battle manga during that point of the manga than he had originally planned. With most likely these later arcs being the amount of shounen battle manga elements he originally wanted. And lets not be in denile here had Medaka box continued at that rate without a genre shift at that point in time it most probably would have been cancelled considering jumps cut throat nature. The fact the genre shift came at that specific moment makes it far too convient for it to have been introduced at that precise moment and not some term later. It's obvious Nisoo had originally plannned to add more battle shouen elemenst from the start but the precise moment and amount he added at the point, pointa towards him he changing his plan a bit to avoid the ratings getting worse. |
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2012-04-30, 17:24 | Link #8434 | |
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It's a pretty smooth transition: Introduce Medaka/Zen joins the SC --> couple SoL chapters --> Akune joins the SC --> couple SoL chapters --> Kikaijima joins the SC --> transition into Unzen. There isn't all that much more that could've been padded or added into the story given that structure. If you're saying Nishio switched up the timing of his "genre shift" in response to the ratings, at best Nishio only had a fudging room of one or two chapters. (Well actually, in the first place, looking at the ranking histories: most of Medaka Box's bad rankings occurred during the chapters of the genre shift. Prior to that, in like the first 6 weeks it had actual rankings, Medaka Box wasn't doing amazing, but it's not like it was hanging at the bottom of the bottom 5 or anything. So basically: Nishio couldn't have planned the "genre shift" based on rankings unless he was seeing the future.) |
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2012-04-30, 17:56 | Link #8435 | |
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The objective of the one left behind might be to delay instead, not outright kill. Ultimately, I'd imagine that you are both proceeding from different directions. One of you is looking through the lenses of a traditional Shounen plot, the other is looking through another lens that is probably closer to Seinen. So, ultimately, you still haven't posited a theory as to what are the suitors ultimate objectives. Because the fact that one of them apparently gladly and faithfully remained on the carrier suggests that the initial set-up of the Arc is a Red-herring. There is something else going on here. Medaka Box has never been a traditional Shounen. Anytime it veers into that direction, it can't resist mocking that genre. |
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2012-04-30, 18:07 | Link #8436 | ||
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Medaka box follows the majority of shounen cliches etc, the only real time that wasn't the case was aijimu arc and even that in the end had ridiculous Shounen conversion of the bad guy. It subverts it a bit with a few twists here and there but for the most part it stays riduclous close to that standard shounen, that is part of the point of it's mockery of it. This arc probably won't be entirely standard shounen but those tropes will remain which is why I find it weird to assume that at least not a fair amount would focus on battles to some degree, especially considering Medaka's popularity currently. Last edited by Tenchi Hou Take; 2012-04-30 at 18:21. |
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2012-04-30, 18:31 | Link #8437 | |
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2012-04-30, 18:43 | Link #8438 | |
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It's not the fact that the enforcer arc had some battle shounen elements Medaka box ALWAYS had that, it's the arc the succeeded it that was the real genre shift. |
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2012-04-30, 19:19 | Link #8440 |
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Didn't that already happen, I don't really see the need to repeat that. Sure neither went all out and Zenkichi most probably improved, but he's not on Zenkichi's to beat list and it'd take a heck of a lot for that to happen even if we assume Kanome was dark side all this time, Zenkichi batted an eyelid at Shiranui joining Kumagawa, Kumagawa of all people, the same dude who blinded him and who he was more than willing to sacrifice his life in order to kill just to save the world from Kumagawa.
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