2010-07-11, 18:01 | Link #2541 |
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Annoying argument, anyway. Just because a deity doesn't stop evil doesn't mean it can't. It may mean it chooses not to--and if we're talking Christianity here, that would be the correct assumption. The "good book" itself offers plenty of evidence to prove the evil of the god it exhalts.
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2010-07-11, 18:45 | Link #2542 |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Massachusetts
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Mmm, I've always thought that if there is a sentient creator figure (God), he definitely isn't benevolent to the point of interfering. I think if God exists he must be some kind of scientific experimenter: he sets up a nearly infinite sphere with certain conditions then watches the results play out on their own.
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2010-07-11, 19:14 | Link #2543 |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 32
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Even if there is a godlike force out there, I don't know why people tend to be obsessed with the idea of a conscious god, a being like a human that makes decisions that affect our everyday lives.
If there is such a force, I doubt the ability of the human mind to truly be able to conceptualize such a force in any detailed manner anyhow. This is why I tend to find eastern philosophy and religions to be "better" if that is the right word (Though I'm an agnostic leaning towards atheism).
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2010-07-11, 19:42 | Link #2544 | |
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From what I've read early Buddhist schools seem more or less compatible with atheism in most of the major philosophies. Later Buddhist schools though, as they spread seem to have been changed substantially intermingling with cultural elements of different societies. |
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2010-07-11, 21:34 | Link #2545 | |
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atheists have a compulsion to talk about god, more than i |
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2010-07-11, 21:37 | Link #2546 |
You're Hot, Cupcake
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 42
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I believe that there are Powers That Be that are greater than us humans and are responisble for this universe. I don't have any interest in naming them or telling other people what to think. I'd rather treat my fellow humans with respect and tolerance, try to be a good person every day and try to be a good force in the world. I'll let the Powers That Be do what they need to do.
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2010-07-15, 08:59 | Link #2549 |
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Ever since I was small, I was fascinated at how the world works, at how all the little particles gather togheter to form what we all call reality. However, I never really found any convincing answers in the Cristian Orthodox religion, in which I was baptised (against my will). And so, as I grew up and started viewing science, logic and philosophy as being far more realistic than the religious teachings, I gradually turned away from the Christian doctrine.
Now, I guess I'm pretty much agnostic (well, with a good deal of respect for the religions of Japan). I actually find Shinto much more interesting than the teachings of kirishitan-ism. ^^ |
2010-07-15, 09:01 | Link #2550 |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Hmmm believe in one god. Believe in his son Jesus Christ. Through them can you truly be happy. By praying(if lost), you will feel better. But, I'm a bit shaky with religion stuff. Especially when I meet those extremists who force thy opinions down on me. I do not mind what religion you go by however. Even if it's about killing yourself, that's all you. But for now, my religion is live life to the fullest and always ask for/thank the Lord's support when I feel insecure, lost, etc and always stay optimistic and inquisitive in life.
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2010-07-15, 09:16 | Link #2551 |
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Actually I should not say this...
I do not believe that there is an almighty power like a God, but I believe there is a higher power, in some form. No matter what being, they cannot be omnipotent. Nothing in this world is perfect and everything has its flaws. This higher power does not have the ability to create nor destroy, but only observe. That is its purpose. I also believe that your soul takes a rest in an place far from the reach of others were we meet up with our dearly departed. That is what I believe. I also believe that one can share his or her memories and experiences with those of the departed by visiting that said person's grave. Even if you do not speak, they hear what you want to tell them. It is like their personal mailbox ^_^ I have no religion as I find religion (any) flawed in some way or other, thus I believe those 2 things.
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2010-08-14, 16:40 | Link #2558 | |
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using logic, you come to the conclusion that either there is an endless cycle (this created the world, that created this, x created that) or there is god, which is all and didnt need creating for he always was and always will be. (btw i'm not referng to the christian god. just in general)
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2010-08-14, 17:05 | Link #2559 | |
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Also, your logic is pretty spotty. Why should there be a creator at all? And why can't time have a beginning? At last, I can bloody well form an opinion without a stupid book or person to tell me what to do. I've never heard of a religion that didn't boil down to "because I feel it's so" as its basis, and I don't need other people to feel. I can do it on my own, for all the good it does in unraveling the mysteries of the universe. |
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2010-08-14, 17:27 | Link #2560 | |
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yes, everything stems from what you feel is right, but the more you know, the more it narrows down. u think its just a coincidence that so many religions share alot of the same concepts? and if there is no creator, i would like to see your worldview of how that would be like, please. nothing is impossible, but i am interested.
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