(L) Akame ga kill [Manga]

[kasimmorathi]

I actually sort of like the fact that no character is 'safe'.

Granted, I will definitely miss the Chelsea it definitely will help Tatsumi grow as a character as well. There is a tragedy tag affixed to this as well, so I don't know why this is such a shock to the readers. It starts out with torture, murder, rape and slavery.

She wasn't the first to die and she will not be the last. Revolutions are not won easily or cleanly.

[NeutralZero]

^^They're assasins so don't think they'll do some flashy stuff like that...
The good thing for Jaeger is that their death is far more pleasant than the death of any member of NR (but do hope pet girl and now Kurome have a very brutal death)... save from bulat/aniki's death... the most pleasant so far for NR considering his, Shere and the new one's death...

[Mentar]

And the next pointless round of revenge and retribution can start *ding ding ding*

Well, not really. I hope that we'll get some more Tatsumi/Esdese developments soon, because the butchery is neither pleasant nor in any way helpful.

By the way, am I the only one whose spider senses tingle when I see the NR leader? I smell something rotten there...

[RRW]

everyone will die at the end of the manga. you have to admit it

If this will get anime I want Tomino as director and Gen as Script writer XD

[Randrak42]

Alright then, I've slept on it and traded some words with a few people about this chapter. Now allow me to explain why I think this chapter was ruined and why the author messed up.

Spoiler for Super Rant due to 33:

It's not about what emotions the manga brings up, but how much of those emotions it makes us experience.

Here's an example:
One Piece, a lot of people wrongly believe it to be a kid's series but it really isn't, it actually delves very deep into serious topics a lot of the time. Now, there's a reason why Eiichiro Oda is considered to be one of the best story-tellers in manga, those that read OP will know that it is a manga that is consistently capable of bringing out a number of emotions throughout each arc. The comedy makes you happy an cheerful, the action makes your blood pump, the adventure side makes you smile and excited but the sad parts actually bring you down, the tragedy makes you sad and at times angry with the situations. However all of these emotions are properly BALANCED! Oda does not force out more of the same emotions than necessary to balance out the others, and even when it goes slightly overboard he makes sure to bring others out for more balance. BALANCE PEOPLE!

Now, I know what you're thinking: "One Piece is a shounen manga from a very shounen magazine!"
Though irrelevant I shall comply, let's pick another example shall we?

There's a manga not many people know called Akumetsu, written by Yoshiaki Tabata. Now, this manga is incredibly good and manages emotions really well as it plays out.
The plot is pretty much a guy who sets out to correct the corruption around him by KILLING THE CORRUPT IN POWER, it has comedy, tragedy, lot's of psychology and other adult themes. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
Now, the manga does most things right...you learn to hate the guys he kills and grow more and more attached to the MCs along the way. It's always so clear that the MC is doing the right thing by killing these bastards to have provoked such pain and...Oh the MC just blew up a building full of people...ok then...in truth this manga makes you question a lot of things. The author adds comedy even during the assassinations but even that doesn't mask the MC's actions and often you end up questioning if what he does it really the right thing. The "bad guys" are painted as such but not all of them can be described into black and white terms.
Through the series things happen, rage inducing things happen quite often but it never really goes overboard, the rage produced is contained and restricted to certain levels, which isn't easy to do! It's so incredibly easy or an author to mess up and produce copious amounts of rage from the readers.

As an example of this, let me pick up another manga from Yoshiaki Tabata called Wolf Guy. Now, I'm not going to go in depth on this manga because what is important is one particular scene. At one part of the manga the FEMALE PROTAGONIST is kidnapped by some really bad people and is subsequently gang-raped, this made a lot of people I know drop the manga. Now, the fact that a character we grew attached to is raped brings out a whole lot of emotions BUT it makes sense, it is actually something that happens more often than it should in the real world. The problem wasn't that she was raped at all but how the author portrayed it. He didn't just mention the rape, he didn't just show a glimpse of it to really drive it home or something of the likes...THE AUTHOR DEDICATED AN ENTIRE CHAPTER TO IT along with various depictions of the situation throughout various chapters. The author dedicated an entire chapter to her graphically being raped, her subsequent mental break-down AND public humiliation THEN made sure to keep reminding us that she was raped, like we had the memory of a goldfish and would be lost without the reminders. Many people I know dropped the manga then and there...even the scanlator dropped it at around that time (and it was not from a lack of RAWs or time mind you!). This particular scene was completely unnecessary and exaggerated it brought about so much rage that even some people who like the emotion (people that actively like things like NTR) felt it was too much and it took away from the story as a whole.

This was of course an extreme example, but not far from what happened this chapter of Akame ga Kiru.
I both commend and condemn the author for doing what he did, for making Jaeger put a member of NR's head on display. It not only makes sense that they did such a thing but it is also a great strategy employed in real war, it sends a message and attacks your enemy psychologically.
But what I condemn was the use of Chelsea for this (I'm not even gonna touch on the fact that it was a freaking undead slave that killed her and not Kurome herself, which is pretty ridiculous by itself). Chelsea is a beloved character of the series, many people have quickly grown quite fond of her and to do something like this, to her, to go to these lengths and take this overboard was a really bad move. The simple fact that she was killed with rage inducing enough, it was expected at some point in the near future and people were already getting ready to handle her death, but when it happens you still feel all the emotions...but going even further with her death was not called for. This reminded me of Schere's death, the way she was killed was bad enough...but having Koro just casually munching on her arm afterwards like it was a biscuit was plain going overboard.
This should have been done to someone like Rabac...or even Najenda, they are lesser characters in most reader's hearts, their deaths and head displays combined would not produced the same amounts of emotions as when Chelsea died (much less the display).

In short, it was a very good play to put the head on display...it was just a very bad choice of characters for it.

And this is why I'll be dropping the manga. I'm not saying I'll never come back to it, I might later on (most likely) but not soon...I don't read manga for these kinds of emotions to be brought out.

To think...all this from just spoilers xD

[elebarna]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

Alright then, I've slept on it and traded some words with a few people about this chapter. Now allow me to explain why I think this chapter was ruined and why the author messed up.

Spoiler for Super Rant due to 33:

It's not about what emotions the manga brings up, but how much of those emotions it makes us experience.

Here's an example:
One Piece, a lot of people wrongly believe it to be a kid's series but it really isn't, it actually delves very deep into serious topics a lot of the time. Now, there's a reason why Eiichiro Oda is considered to be one of the best story-tellers in manga, those that read OP will know that it is a manga that is consistently capable of bringing out a number of emotions throughout each arc. The comedy makes you happy an cheerful, the action makes your blood pump, the adventure side makes you smile and excited but the sad parts actually bring you down, the tragedy makes you sad and at times angry with the situations. However all of these emotions are properly BALANCED! Oda does not force out more of the same emotions than necessary to balance out the others, and even when it goes slightly overboard he makes sure to bring others out for more balance. BALANCE PEOPLE!

Now, I know what you're thinking: "One Piece is a shounen manga from a very shounen magazine!"
Though irrelevant I shall comply, let's pick another example shall we?

There's a manga not many people know called Akumetsu, written by Yoshiaki Tabata. Now, this manga is incredibly good and manages emotions really well as it plays out.
The plot is pretty much a guy who sets out to correct the corruption around him by KILLING THE CORRUPT IN POWER, it has comedy, tragedy, lot's of psychology and other adult themes. Sounds familiar doesn't it?
Now, the manga does most things right...you learn to hate the guys he kills and grow more and more attached to the MCs along the way. It's always so clear that the MC is doing the right thing by killing these bastards to have provoked such pain and...Oh the MC just blew up a building full of people...ok then...in truth this manga makes you question a lot of things. The author adds comedy even during the assassinations but even that doesn't mask the MC's actions and often you end up questioning if what he does it really the right thing. The "bad guys" are painted as such but not all of them can be described into black and white terms.
Through the series things happen, rage inducing things happen quite often but it never really goes overboard, the rage produced is contained and restricted to certain levels, which isn't easy to do! It's so incredibly easy or an author to mess up and produce copious amounts of rage from the readers.

As an example of this, let me pick up another manga from Yoshiaki Tabata called Wolf Guy. Now, I'm not going to go in depth on this manga because what is important is one particular scene. At one part of the manga the FEMALE PROTAGONIST is kidnapped by some really bad people and is subsequently gang-raped, this made a lot of people I know drop the manga. Now, the fact that a character we grew attached to is raped brings out a whole lot of emotions BUT it makes sense, it is actually something that happens more often than it should in the real world. The problem wasn't that she was raped at all but how the author portrayed it. He didn't just mention the rape, he didn't just show a glimpse of it to really drive it home or something of the likes...THE AUTHOR DEDICATED AN ENTIRE CHAPTER TO IT along with various depictions of the situation throughout various chapters. The author dedicated an entire chapter to her graphically being raped, her subsequent mental break-down AND public humiliation THEN made sure to keep reminding us that she was raped, like we had the memory of a goldfish and would be lost without the reminders. Many people I know dropped the manga then and there...even the scanlator dropped it at around that time (and it was not from a lack of RAWs or time mind you!). This particular scene was completely unnecessary and exaggerated it brought about so much rage that even some people who like the emotion (people that actively like things like NTR) felt it was too much and it took away from the story as a whole.

This was of course an extreme example, but not far from what happened this chapter of Akame ga Kiru.
I both commend and condemn the author for doing what he did, for making Jaeger put a member of NR's head on display. It not only makes sense that they did such a thing but it is also a great strategy employed in real war, it sends a message and attacks your enemy psychologically.
But what I condemn was the use of Chelsea for this (I'm not even gonna touch on the fact that it was a freaking undead slave that killed her and not Kurome herself, which is pretty ridiculous by itself). Chelsea is a beloved character of the series, many people have quickly grown quite fond of her and to do something like this, to her, to go to these lengths and take this overboard was a really bad move. The simple fact that she was killed with rage inducing enough, it was expected at some point in the near future and people were already getting ready to handle her death, but when it happens you still feel all the emotions...but going even further with her death was not called for. This reminded me of Schere's death, the way she was killed was bad enough...but having Koro just casually munching on her arm afterwards like it was a biscuit was plain going overboard.
This should have been done to someone like Rabac...or even Najenda, they are lesser characters in most reader's hearts, their deaths and head displays combined would not produced the same amounts of emotions as when Chelsea died (much less the display).

In short, it was a very good play to put the head on display...it was just a very bad choice of characters for it.

And this is why I'll be dropping the manga. I'm not saying I'll never come back to it, I might later on (most likely) but not soon...I don't read manga for these kinds of emotions to be brought out.

To think...all this from just spoilers xD

that's quite statement you make bro....i'm with you.

well i'm actually one of those fans that rage with this ridiculous event,actualy it's just better if someone like najenda [i'm with randark] to just die rather than chelsea.
why ? as that have been descibed and told by randark, chelsea has it's charm more than any heroine in this manga.and yeah,rather than akame i would be prefer if tatsumi paired with chelsea.

but for some reason i can't put this rage on the author itselfes.
to think it's great idea how to show some view to enemy that might frightened them,even in era of 70 there a lot of that kind of sadist thing and much worse, they send that head to enemy headquarters .

well i hoped there won't any bloodsheed again,but remember this manga is so dark,i can't imagine it

[telamont]

One more thing of note about this chapter. There are 6 very distinct silhouettes of Akame's former comrades (the author probably has already finished their character designs). These people seem to be around Akame's level and will most likely show up in the future.

But at the rate "the good guys" are dropping, will there even be anyone left to face these new guys once Night Raid's done with Jaegar? More new recruits from the Revolutionary Army for readers to get attached to and then see killed off?

Everyone seems to expect more RAGE coming our way. I suggest you double your expectations. Or at least take the body count you are expecting, and add about 10 to it (4-6 people from each side).

[Soji]

Spoiler for spoiler:

I agree with the people that say that this will help Tatsumi to grow,I would preferred if she help him to grow while still alive....but i this fine.
I can totally see some flash back next ch and some interaction between the Nr member survive.
And I hope that Tatsumi and Akame will kill Kurome soon.

[telamont]

You know, all you guys who are reacting with... "I hope Night Raid kills Seryuu/the latest offender painfully", you realize you're just getting a taste of your own prescribed medicine, and it tastes very bitter, right?

I mean, what was the cause of Seryuu going bonkers on Schere? Oh, that's right. Night Raid killed her beloved captain. And she reacted exactly as you guys would have wanted. Try and kill the offenders. Painfully. Last chapter, Chelsea killed Bohrs. This chapter, well...

I'm not going to debate the morality of the two sides. The empire is clearly corrupt, but with decent people serving under it. Night Raid are decent people in general, but their higher ups in the rebellion have so far been conspicuously absent.

The point is, even "bad guys"/the opposition have people they love. And they're responding to the loss of their loved ones the exact way you guys want Night Raid to respond. See where this leads?

So yea, say Night Raid do kill who you want them to kill, the way this manga's been going so far, the painful deaths of more "good guys" will immediately follow. Why are you guys even cheering for such a development? Do you want cat girl and loli twin tails to meet a grisly end?

Seriously. I appreciate some deaths in my manga as much as the next guy. It adds tension to the story, and makes the consequences of failure feel more real. But at this point in Akame Kiru, I'm ready for it to just stop. At least for little while.

[Mentar]

Well, since I still seem to be pretty alone with my opinion (edit: and just now, telamont has to write a note at least generally looking in my direction), I'll proudly wave my flag once more and repeat what I wrote half a year ago.

1) The whole Jaeger/NR violence is completely pointless and counterproductive. It's a terrible circle of carnage, loss and revenge, leading to NOTHING but resentment and tears. This is exactly what the author is now inducing to the readers by killing likable characters from both sides, while NOTHING is gained.

2) No side will be victorious over the other one. Victory needs to be attained by breaking the cycle somehow.

3) The only realistic way how such a thing could be attained is via the Tatsumi/Esdese link, who I consider a clear designated match. Akame is _not_ Tatsumi's romantic match, her counterpart is Kurome with who she has to work things out. I consider my theory disproven when either of these four are killed for good without the story clearly winding down. They wear full platemail plot armor at the moment.

So, what do I expect to happen in the near future?

o Tatsumi and Esdese will meet again soonish. I could perfectly picture him trying meet her in order to kill her now, but the victorious side in a battle (with 90% certainty Esdese) will not kill the other one. It will, however, lead to Esdese being very conflicted between her feelings and her "duty".

o Esdese will be supplanted within the government (either by machinations of the Minister's son or by her failure to kill Tatsumi), go rogue and eventually switch sides. But that is far far away in the future.

[iCK]

Originally Posted by Mentar

Well, since I still seem to be pretty alone with my opinion (edit: and just now, telamont has to write a note at least generally looking in my direction), I'll proudly wave my flag once more and repeat what I wrote half a year ago.

1) The whole Jaeger/NR violence is completely pointless and counterproductive. It's a terrible circle of carnage, loss and revenge, leading to NOTHING but resentment and tears. This is exactly what the author is now inducing to the readers by killing likable characters from both sides, while NOTHING is gained.

2) No side will be victorious over the other one. Victory needs to be attained by breaking the cycle somehow.

3) The only realistic way how such a thing could be attained is via the Tatsumi/Esdese link, who I consider a clear designated match. Akame is _not_ Tatsumi's romantic match, her counterpart is Kurome with who she has to work things out. I consider my theory disproven when either of these four are killed for good without the story clearly winding down. They wear full platemail plot armor at the moment.

So, what do I expect to happen in the near future?

o Tatsumi and Esdese will meet again soonish. I could perfectly picture him trying meet her in order to kill her now, but the victorious side in a battle (with 90% certainty Esdese) will not kill the other one. It will, however, lead to Esdese being very conflicted between her feelings and her "duty".

o Esdese will be supplanted within the government (either by machinations of the Minister's son or by her failure to kill Tatsumi), go rogue and eventually switch sides. But that is far far away in the future.

A love flag between Akame and Tatsumi was just trigged in chapter 33.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Mentar

Well, since I still seem to be pretty alone with my opinion (edit: and just now, telamont has to write a note at least generally looking in my direction), I'll proudly wave my flag once more and repeat what I wrote half a year ago.

1) The whole Jaeger/NR violence is completely pointless and counterproductive. It's a terrible circle of carnage, loss and revenge, leading to NOTHING but resentment and tears. This is exactly what the author is now inducing to the readers by killing likable characters from both sides, while NOTHING is gained.

2) No side will be victorious over the other one. Victory needs to be attained by breaking the cycle somehow.

3) The only realistic way how such a thing could be attained is via the Tatsumi/Esdese link, who I consider a clear designated match. Akame is _not_ Tatsumi's romantic match, her counterpart is Kurome with who she has to work things out. I consider my theory disproven when either of these four are killed for good without the story clearly winding down. They wear full platemail plot armor at the moment.

So, what do I expect to happen in the near future?

o Tatsumi and Esdese will meet again soonish. I could perfectly picture him trying meet her in order to kill her now, but the victorious side in a battle (with 90% certainty Esdese) will not kill the other one. It will, however, lead to Esdese being very conflicted between her feelings and her "duty".

o Esdese will be supplanted within the government (either by machinations of the Minister's son or by her failure to kill Tatsumi), go rogue and eventually switch sides. But that is far far away in the future.

The cycle will end when either thee Prime Minister wins, in which case he'll kill everyone who disagrees, or the Revolutionary Army wins, in which case they establish a new regime. While I (to my own surprise) actually like the Tatsumi/Esdese pairing, it isn't as though either is the leader of their faction. Their romance, such as it is, might sway one or the other to their lovers side, but it won't change the war.

[Soji]

Originally Posted by XFire

The cycle will end when either thee Prime Minister wins, in which case he'll kill everyone who disagrees, or the Revolutionary Army wins, in which case they establish a new regime. While I (to my own surprise) actually like the Tatsumi/Esdese pairing, it isn't as though either is the leader of their faction. Their romance, such as it is, might sway one or the other to their lovers side, but it won't change the war.

I not like the pairing and you guys know this, but I agree with the other thing that you say.
Also if Tatsumi or better the author make him go for Esdese would make Tatsumi a big hypocrite at this point in the story(or better more than before) and I will lose respect in this author and this story if that happen.(this is my opinion of course).
Really at this point i think the chance are become even less than zero ...again this is my opinion.
Honestly at this point I really not care much about romance i just hope the author not do stupid move that make me hate this story.

[TJP1600]

lol knew it, just didn't think it would be that nasty. Dropping this series, as much as I love heads and bodies being seperated, they could have killed anyone besides her but no, they don't.

[Excorsism]

I'm particularly interested in how Wave is going to react to the head on the pike. That and his reaction when he learns of Kurome's drugged up state and when he learns that Bors is dead. Damn it author, stop holding back on us.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by telamont

You know, all you guys who are reacting with... "I hope Night Raid kills Seryuu/the latest offender painfully", you realize you're just getting a taste of your own prescribed medicine, and it tastes very bitter, right?

I mean, what was the cause of Seryuu going bonkers on Schere? Oh, that's right. Night Raid killed her beloved captain. And she reacted exactly as you guys would have wanted. Try and kill the offenders. Painfully. Last chapter, Chelsea killed Bohrs. This chapter, well...

I'm not going to debate the morality of the two sides. The empire is clearly corrupt, but with decent people serving under it. Night Raid are decent people in general, but their higher ups in the rebellion have so far been conspicuously absent.

The point is, even "bad guys"/the opposition have people they love. And they're responding to the loss of their loved ones the exact way you guys want Night Raid to respond. See where this leads?

So yea, say Night Raid do kill who you want them to kill, the way this manga's been going so far, the painful deaths of more "good guys" will immediately follow. Why are you guys even cheering for such a development? Do you want cat girl and loli twin tails to meet a grisly end?

Seriously. I appreciate some deaths in my manga as much as the next guy. It adds tension to the story, and makes the consequences of failure feel more real. But at this point in Akame Kiru, I'm ready for it to just stop. At least for little while.

I am going to admit that I was one of the members who wanted Seryuu to die painfully. The thing about Seryuu is the people who was dear to her, the mad doctor and Captain, were both seriously messed up characters who done big wrongs. Chelsea on the other hand, her crime was that she killed the opposition and seen his evil first hand. Comparing Seryuu and Chelsea personality, the one deserving of punishment, or in this case death is Seryuu. Seryuu claims she is doing Justice yet she killed innocent civilians under suspicions they were with Nightraid. Chelsea just killed the enemy, played harmless tricks here and there, and overall aside she is an assassin she was cheerful girl.

[kfcpanda]

it's just seeing her lose all her limbs/the patheticness of her death & head on a pike that made things bad for me.

i mean, every single one of the enemys' deaths have been more dignified than this.
none o this beheading/display/systematic removal of limbs business

[evil|plushie]

I think if people don't want to see characters die, they should go and read bleach.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by kfcpanda

it's just seeing her lose all her limbs/the patheticness of her death & head on a pike that made things bad for me.

i mean, every single one of the enemys' deaths have been more dignified than this.
none o this beheading/display/systematic removal of limbs business

Dignified? Either you forget that Akame decapitated the Doctor, or you're clearly playing favoritism here.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Dignified? Either you forget that Akame decapitated the Doctor, or you're clearly playing favoritism here.

I think people were more attach to Chelsea than the Mad Doctor, you really can't blame people for that. Mad Doctor who experimented on people, made puppets out of them, and then absorb the puppets as if they were just tools to be used. Compared that to the mischievous like school girl Chelsea, then yeah there are going to be favoritism considering the difference of personality and characters' actions before their deaths.

In short, people who done some evil choices compared to lovable characters, people will be more sadden towards the deaths lovable characters than those who did bad deeds.