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Shiroth · 2009-10-30, 06:30

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Originally Posted by Hellbore

Not really, aside from Zeta, Gundams never had them Kill 'em all ending

The "kill 'em all" line works with Tomino works such as Zambot, Ideon and Victory Gundam.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2009-10-30, 06:32

Well, I'm not for kill em all.

But I will expect a few good characters to bite the dust in the movie.

Duo Maxwell · 2009-10-30, 06:47

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Well, I'm not for kill em all.

But I will expect a few good characters to bite the dust in the movie.

I don't care as long as it contributes to the movie. I just hate how people want everyone to die, if not the show is shitty.

You see how the 3 Astray Girls in Gundam Seed died? That's what I call unnecessary deaths. I can see he's trying something like Zeta Gundam, or Victory Gundam, but the impact is nowhere near as good.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2009-10-30, 06:48

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Plasma Engine -> Electricity -> GNP

If somehow the 00verse have the guts to use nuclear power again it will mean an effectively no time limit [T] drives

Except Tau Drives are known to be degraded overtime through use. Even more so, the use of imitation Tran-zam, which almost certainly render the Tau drive unusable afterwards.

Operational time limit in itself is not an issue except for scouting units; It's the same reason why we don't need nuclear-powered tanks, but there IS a benefit for nuclear powered submarines. Tanks just need to operate long enough for a single battle, because the crew couldn't fight continuously anyway. While submarines can benefit under long operational time without refueling.

You only really need limitless operating time if you expect the unit to operate without support for days or weeks. Unless you are a spy unit, that's rare.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2009-10-30, 06:56

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Except Tau Drives are known to be degraded overtime through use. Even more so, the use of imitation Tran-zam, which almost certainly render the Tau drive unusable afterwards.

Operational time limit in itself is not an issue except for scouting units; It's the same reason why we don't need nuclear-powered tanks, but there IS a benefit for nuclear powered submarines. Tanks just need to operate long enough for a single battle, because the crew couldn't fight continuously anyway. While submarines can benefit under long operational time without refueling.

You only really need limitless operating time if you expect the unit to operate without support for days or weeks. Unless you are a spy unit, that's rare.

Wait....what?

Duo Maxwell · 2009-10-30, 07:09

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Wait....what?

I thought you'd be more aware about that, since I saw you in the Technical thread for a while.

In short, the more you use it, the worse it becomes.

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2009-10-30, 07:13

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

I thought you'd be more aware about that, since I saw you in the Technical thread for a while.

In short, the more you use it, the worse it becomes.

I never heard that about the Tau Drives, the only down fall I've heard is that they need recharging.

The whole degraded thing is news to me. Where was that stated?

Duo Maxwell · 2009-10-30, 07:36

Somewhere among the piles of technical things in Technology thread. Someone mentions that the main downside of the GN Tau Drives isn't from short time usage, since the Thrones were able to run around for 3 days while engaging combat here and there. The real downside is mentioned by Vallen Chaos Valiant above.

JC... · 2009-10-30, 09:51

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Originally Posted by Akuma_Blade

speculation :

-I think, 5rd unit will lately joined to battle and piloted by Saji or Soma. It's GN Powered unit and designation type resemble to GN Sefer or GN Archer : Combine all Gundams and comes 2x power

-GN ARMS will be come.. New features, guns, equipments? Maybe.

-Ribbons bring back

-Graham bring back too, and he'll repeat Milliardo's Endless Waltz role

-Endless Waltz + "killem all" final

lol 5rd!? it's 5th

Balder8472 · 2009-10-30, 10:26

I believe the Tau drive require both electrical energy plus a catalyst for the Tau drive to operate, when both of these are exhausted the drive ceases operation.

when the electrical energy and catalyst levels are low the drive must enter a fuel conservation state giving the mobilesuit just enough energy to return to their mothership/base for refuelling

I think it's stated somewhere that the use of Trans am permanently damages a tau drive requiring either replacement parts/maintainence or a completely new drive.

Akuma_Blade · 2009-10-30, 12:26

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Originally Posted by JC...

lol 5rd!? it's 5th

Setsuna's unit NOT have "twin drive"

lol

Patriot's Blade · 2009-10-30, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

Could people please stop with the "kill 'em all" final thing?

well, unless Mizushima & Kuroda is feeling depressed right now by people who bash their works, anything gruesome could happen anytime

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2009-10-30, 20:31

I don't think a whole lot of bashing is going on.

00 is getting a movie after all.

tieria.erde · 2009-10-31, 04:36

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Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

00 is getting a movie after all.

where people might die...

Rickketik · 2009-10-31, 04:54

What is this "kill 'em all"?
If it means what i think it means then It sounds like horrible writing.

Hellbore · 2009-10-31, 05:06

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Originally Posted by Rickketik

What is this "kill 'em all"?
If it means what i think it means then It sounds like horrible writing.

It refers to Tomino's shows where the ending was both very depressing and most of the cast die. Examples are Zambot 3, Aura Battler Dunbine and the best, Ideon where the entire universe is destroyed, along with Zeta Gundam and Victory Gundam. It's not bad writing at all, just a way to compllete wrap everything up. Not all stories have a happy ending.

More examples, see here

GundamMeisterLockon · 2009-10-31, 05:15

i pefer endings in anime not to be too happy or too sad, just the right balance in between. I hate those sunshine and rainbows endings in anime where everyone gets on jus like that and where everyone finds their special someone somehow.

Those kind of endings make me sick. Gundam 00 s1 ending was just amazeing and s2 ended okay.

Duo Maxwell · 2009-10-31, 05:17

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Originally Posted by Hellbore

It refers to Tomino's shows where the ending was both very depressing and most of the cast die. Examples are Zambot 3 and the best, Ideon where the entire universe is destroyed, along with Zeta Gundam and Victory Gundam. It's not bad writing at all, just a way to compllete wrap everything up. Not all stories have a happy ending.

In fact, most of them are pretty good, but that doesn't mean you have to kill em all to make a show good.

ckthye86 · 2009-10-31, 05:25

Heheh in Gundam 00 season 1 if you don't die you're a pussy...lol

Shiroth · 2009-10-31, 05:33

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Originally Posted by Hellbore

It refers to Tomino's shows where the ending was both very depressing and most of the cast die. Examples are Zambot 3, Aura Battler Dunbine and the best, Ideon where the entire universe is destroyed, along with Zeta Gundam and Victory Gundam. It's not bad writing at all, just a way to compllete wrap everything up. Not all stories have a happy ending.

Actually it's just not for endings, it's for the whole shows. No idea were you got this ending idea from.

2009-10-30, 07:36	Link #1508
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Somewhere among the piles of technical things in Technology thread. Someone mentions that the main downside of the GN Tau Drives isn't from short time usage, since the Thrones were able to run around for 3 days while engaging combat here and there. The real downside is mentioned by Vallen Chaos Valiant above. __________________

2009-10-31, 05:15	Link #1517
GundamMeisterLockon Lock N Load Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: GUNDAM CITY	i pefer endings in anime not to be too happy or too sad, just the right balance in between. I hate those sunshine and rainbows endings in anime where everyone gets on jus like that and where everyone finds their special someone somehow. Those kind of endings make me sick. Gundam 00 s1 ending was just amazeing and s2 ended okay. __________________

2009-10-30, 06:32	Link #1502
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	Well, I'm not for kill em all. But I will expect a few good characters to bite the dust in the movie.

2009-10-30, 10:26	Link #1510
Balder8472 I have a License Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: planet Earth	I believe the Tau drive require both electrical energy plus a catalyst for the Tau drive to operate, when both of these are exhausted the drive ceases operation. when the electrical energy and catalyst levels are low the drive must enter a fuel conservation state giving the mobilesuit just enough energy to return to their mothership/base for refuelling I think it's stated somewhere that the use of Trans am permanently damages a tau drive requiring either replacement parts/maintainence or a completely new drive.

2009-10-30, 20:31	Link #1513
GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	I don't think a whole lot of bashing is going on. 00 is getting a movie after all.

2009-10-31, 04:54	Link #1515
Rickketik Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 34	What is this "kill 'em all"? If it means what i think it means then It sounds like horrible writing.

2009-10-31, 05:25	Link #1519
ckthye86 Almost 24/7 busy >.< Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Malaysia	Heheh in Gundam 00 season 1 if you don't die you're a pussy...lol