Romance in Code Geass (Take 2)

[Var]

Originally Posted by zalem

I don't see how they are clinging to hope. I think dismissing C.C. and claiming she is dead doesn't really make sense. If there were only 2 episodes left, you'd probably be right. But with 10 left? I'm just really skeptical she isn't going to get her memories back. This such a common plot device and usually the people always get their memories back. Of course, even if she gets her memories back doesn't guarantee a C.C. victory. Anything can happen.

The website puts its, more or less, that her memories were the price for losing her power. So if she gets her memories back, so comes back the power. C.C. is dead as long as the power does not return, her wish was to be free from that power. I see nothing wrong with saying that C.C. is dead until otherwise stated.

Her getting her memories back is not a good thing, nor is it necessarily bad.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by yezhanquan

Lulu X memory-loss C.C., anyone?

It could work... Or the very least I'm sure Lelouch would take better care of an innocent girl now.

[mysociallink2]

She is dead!

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Var

The website puts its, more or less, that her memories were the price for losing her power. So if she gets her memories back, so comes back the power. C.C. is dead as long as the power does not return, her wish was to be free from that power. I see nothing wrong with saying that C.C. is dead until otherwise stated.

Her getting her memories back is not a good thing, nor is it necessarily bad.

Which power?

CC wants to love. That does not require mortality. What stopped her was her love-geass, which ironically she hadn't got ever since she became immortal. The only barrier was psychological, not magical. CC was just Emo, and had no right to kill herself.

[zalem]

Originally Posted by yezhanquan

Lulu X memory-loss C.C., anyone?

Nooooo. Hell, I prefer Kaguya with Lelouch to this memory-loss!C.C. (and considering how I really dislike KaguyaXLelouch that's really saying something). At least Kaguya for all her fangirlishness is not a Chi clone.

[Var]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Which power?

CC wants to love. That does not require mortality. What stopped her was her love-geass, which ironically she hadn't got ever since she became immortal. The only barrier was psychological, not magical. CC was just Emo, and had no right to kill herself.

Her immortality. She does not want to be an immortal, was that point not made perfectly clear? Stop pushing your own definitions about life, mortality, and immortality, onto C.C.. She does not want to be immortal because it makes her life and experiences meaningless, or at least that is how she sees it.

If she becomes immortal again, and does in fact experience love, it will be even more tragic when she lives on well past her source of love and clings onto one fleeting happiness for eternity. To her, the power of the Geass, all of it, is a curse.

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Which power?

I believe it's called "Code", and it's the power of immortality and to grant geass. Both C.C. and the nun who gave her the power of Geass called the eternal living of Code they had a "Living Hell".

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Var

Her immortality. She does not want to be an immortal, was that point not made perfectly clear? Stop pushing your own definitions about life, mortality, and immortality, onto C.C.. She does not want to be immortal because it makes her life and experiences meaningless, or at least that is how she sees it.

If she becomes immortal again, and does in fact experience love, it will be even more tragic when she lives on well past her source of love and clings onto one fleeting happiness for eternity. To her, the power of the Geass, all of it, is a curse.

Love is fleeting. That's what makes it precious. CC lost belief in love not because she lived a long time, but because she could get love in bulk and as much as she wants via geass, which made it cheap.

The Love-Geass disappeared the second she became immortal. Her immortality had nothing to do with her unhappiness.

True love is valued not because it is eternal, but because it is fragile. And if she can't accept that then she doesn't deserve to escape from her life via death.

Or do you think it is okay for people with broken hearts to kill themselves? Or have widows and widowers be buried alive with their dead spouses?

[bbduece]

This new C.C. might hit it off with Lelouch. The previous version was more of an equal to Lelouch. There past relationship was to allow each other to achieve their goals. After episode 15 I can see Lelouch caring for the "moe".

[gabbytay]

Originally Posted by bbduece

This new C.C. might hit it off with Lelouch. The previous version was more of an equal to Lelouch. There past relationship was to allow each other to achieve their goals. After episode 15 I can see Lelouch caring for the "moe".

He will probably train her to act like his equal with some fanservice

[Verist]

Originally Posted by bbduece

This new C.C. might hit it off with Lelouch. The previous version was more of an equal to Lelouch. There past relationship was to allow each other to achieve their goals. After episode 15 I can see Lelouch caring for the "moe".

I wonder when he is going to find the time to care for her.. he is a little busy at the moment. He shouldn't really have time to show C.C. how to use a modern toilet etc and I sure don't want to see an episode wasted for this kind of crap.

[morbosfist]

I don't think they'll bother showing such nuances, though it would be funny in an awkward way.

[LordJedi]

Let's hope the amnesia won't last too long... what makes C.C so special is her personality after all. Yes, she's hot but so are most CG female characters

[bbduece]

Originally Posted by Verist

I wonder when he is going to find the time to care for her.. he is a little busy at the moment. He shouldn't really have time to show C.C. how to use a modern toilet etc and I sure don't want to see an episode wasted for this kind of crap.

He had time to care for Shirley.

[mayumi]

i am going to guess that lelouch will have to say C.C real name out with all the love and concern from his heart like she requested back in season 1. didn't really understand the meaning of it until now. its kinda sad, but maybe the new C.C can trust him based on that. hopefully she will get her memories back at the end.

[Verist]

Originally Posted by bbduece

He had time to care for Shirley.

True, but the pace of the show has increased

[Micante]

Code Geass has a habit of resolving things in half an episode while throwing in plot points for a different plot when you expected to see epic multi-episoded battles with no interruptions. I don't think pacing will be a problem.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by UnnamedPhenemenom

Code Geass has a habit of resolving things in half an episode while throwing in plot points for a different plot when you expected to see epic multi-episoded battles with no interruptions. I don't think pacing will be a problem.

Indeed, if the same anime was made in the 1990's, the current story would probably span 120 episodes. Sunrise knows they have a lot of plot to resolve, so things happen as quickly as possible.

[bbduece]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Indeed, if the same anime was made in the 1990's, the current story would probably span 120 episodes. Sunrise knows they have a lot of plot to resolve, so things happen as quickly as possible.

Haha, you got me thinking about some redundancy use in other animes."cough cough...DragonBallz....coug....Bleach ...cough......Gwing..."

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by bbduece

Haha, you got me thinking about some redundancy use in other animes."cough cough...DragonBallz....coug....Bleach ...cough......Gwing..."

Gundam Wing wasn't that long, most Gundam series have 50 episodes by default.

As for shonen series, that's the curse of trying to not overtake the manga.

I wasn't talking about either, though. I was talking about old-school anime series where as few things happened as possible because there wasn't much content in the plot. The adventure was so open-ended that they never got anywhere. (Pokemon anime is guilty of this.)

It is refreshing to see an anime that tries to be ambitious in scope over a moderately long series. They are trying to do a lot in 50 episodes, so much so that some audiences have trouble adjusting sometimes. After all, Lulu took 3-4 episodes to get China as an ally and a few more episodes to start up a world-wide coalition against Britannia. And even romantic relationships develop at the speed of light, so much so that we don't know how it will end with the number of remaining episodes.