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The intervention of an independent party is an issue that I tried to bring up in the beginning. My position is that this intervention is of no consequence for what concerns Kinzo's guilt.
We can have a case A, like the one supposed by the witch hunters, where a second party used the device created by Kinzo to willingly massacre the whole family. Then we can have a case B, when someone accidentally pushes the switch. Let's say for example that a servant pushes it while tidying the room. Or we can have a case C, where the bomb goes off because of some kind of malfunction in the device, or because the clock falls after a earthquake and the switch turns to on. The situations are all different, but I argue that Kinzo's fault is the same in all the 3 cases. And I can argue that some would say that in case C Kinzo would be accountable of manslaughter.
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2011-01-19, 17:54 | Link #21584 |
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Yeah, it is at the top of the clock, but to arm the bomb the switch should be attached to the wall and connected to TNT with wiring so that the explosives ignite at midnight with a jolt of electricity. Is what I was thinking.
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2011-01-19, 17:58 | Link #21585 |
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Well yeah... you need a wire, but we don't actually now how long it is. It is possible that the clock isn't fixed on the wall and that there is a long lose wire that then goes into the wall.
Actually it could be the floor for what we now.
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2011-01-20, 09:51 | Link #21587 |
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I think for the Ep3 scene where Shannon got revived and re-died, she was killed by Eva. She just killed George and was spotted by Eva, who flew into a rage and killed her after a confrontation.
Which was portrayed by Eva-Beatrice and the Siesta Sisters(her guns) attacking Beatrice.
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2011-01-20, 09:53 | Link #21588 |
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Who knows? Maybe someone did, but unless we have a confirmation we can't be sure of that.
You can find my explanations here: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...03#post3411303 But those are just unconfirmed theories.
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2011-01-20, 15:01 | Link #21590 | |
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If the latter....technically no. We all have theories but nothing conclusive.
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2011-01-20, 15:12 | Link #21592 |
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Land is what was supposed to come in place of EP3. Ryuukishi decided to scrap that project and create Banquet instead. Whether Land was actually written or something that was in his mind is not known, but it is known that Ryuukishi mentioned it in a few occasions.
What it's known is that Land was supposed to be "harder" than Banquet and some part of it were later cannibalized by EP6 for the most part. In EP8 Beatrice claims that Land was a third message that she wrote but which was lost forever in the sea. She says that it was her finest work. Whether this actually reflects Ryuukishi's opinion is not clear, and at any rate Beatrice can only talk of her best among EP1-2 and this "Land". In other words even if Land was supposed to be better than EP1 and EP2, that doesn't mean it was supposed to be better than Banquet or anything that came afterwards.
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2011-01-20, 15:53 | Link #21594 |
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Well, he said that it was something that none of the characters even realized was a mystery, and it was never brought up for discussion in EP5. Considering that it's A) a new element in EP5 and B) something related to the red truth in EP6, I'd assume that he was referring to the addition of Erika to the story. The original plan for Land could have contained a similarly fictional person, if not Erika herself.
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2011-01-20, 17:05 | Link #21595 | |
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2011-01-20, 17:15 | Link #21596 | |
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Following this path I can make several hypothesis: -Shkanon -Author theory -A trick within the red truths (personalities can die, and so on) Or it could be something completely different, even something that we've always taken for granted.
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2011-01-20, 20:39 | Link #21597 | |
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anyways ,i think i know whos the mastermind behind the mass murder,its Yasu.she confess it in ep7 tea party,that she plan to kill everyone if the epitapt is not solve.she didn't reveal her plan to them but i believe there's atleast 2 accomplice that help her.she use the cash card to make them her accomplice.. based on this fact,i made a theory.i think in all the ep so far,the murderer or accomplice is the pair that died on the second twilight.they pretend to be dead. |
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I could not swallow the Yasu mastermind theory because of...the motive, the motive! Ryukishi always talk about it, but the motive for Yasu to kill the whole family is just too artificial and...unatural for me. Yasu may be a bit airhead with all her strong imagination, but her recollection at least still shows that she's quite sane. Why did she snap and kill the whole family? Because of Battler? Because of the odd Shkanon situation (which is ridiculous on its own)? Maybe I just miss the kind of motives we see in Higurashi. All the kids kill people while they're quite crazy, but their motives are understandable, their thoughts process is comprehensible. We could feel they're all normal people like us, and we could probably commit similar sins in the same situation, with the same negative influence. Maybe it's just my personal option, but I just cannot swallow Yasu's motives to kill the people, if she's actually the mastermind. |
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And then Yasu had a meltdown he had a meltdown he didn't wanna he didn't wanna have a meltdown but he had one! and then he had a meltdown he had a meltdown well he was tryin' really really tryin not to have one but he had one!
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