(L) Shiki

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by konart

Spoiler for jin roh:

is a werewolf. Thanks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jin-Roh:_The_Wolf_Brigade for that, lol

So my original speculation after his first appearance is correct? Amazing.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Excellent episode...

Spoiler for ep15:

... as we descend further into the pit, then hit bottom and catch a glimpse of a possible turn-around. The scene in the coffee-shop was as chilling as the scene at the town hall. Having seen a version with the preview, I am really, really looking forward to next week. And not just because it will be the furthest I got in the manga when I read it months ago.

[ars89]

Spoiler for my take on ep 15:

So Toru was waiting for Natsuno to rise, wonder who was watching him though, not surprised how Seishin reacted to Toshio going crazy, so i'm guessing Sunako visited Seishin and read his novel and wrote on it, nobody believes in what is happening and nobody trusts Toshio, Chizuru looked good again, she said straight that she was coming for Toshio, so his days are numbered, the new funeral home is crazy, that funeral was funny, they have a nice setup to check if people rise, so Tatsumi is a jinrou, wonder how you become that as apposed to a shiki, so the end is what everyone was waiting for, Natsuno has risen and seems to want to help Toshio get rid of the Shiki, but the question is he a normal shiki because if he isn't he's going to have to get blood somehow, also i like his new attire

[wandering-dreamer]

Spoiler for episode 15:

Aw, they cut out a little scene early on the episode that I hope gets added in in the next one, although cutting it out (plus where Funimation put the ad this time) did add to the suspense in the end.
And I have to admit I'm annoyed by the villagers in this episode with all their "We're sooooo modern in that we blindly follow the religion of science instead of blindly following religion, wohoo!" I can understand being rational about a situation but when the village has gone from a few deaths a summer to at least one a day over a few months and you simply accept it as the new norm, that's not exactly rational. They just aren't doing, well, anything about their situation (you certainly don't have to be a nurse or doctor to raise a stink about how many people are dying in a summer) and I kind of want to see the shiki win at this point. Kind of because (and I know I'm going to be shot for this ) it feels like bad writing here. I don't know if this is from the original novel, the manga adaption or the anime adaption (I suspect my issue lies with the novels) but there are no attempts to make the villagers likeable or reasonable so OF COURSE I'm going to want the shiki to kill them all! And I don't like stories where I feel like the author is making me like one side over the other since they make one side completely unlikeable.

So, TL;DR the villagers better be pretty awesome in the last few episodes or I'm going to be annoyed for the rest of the season.

[karice67]

Spoiler for response to Shiroth and konart:

The question is: what do they mean by jinrou? It's obviously not the classic "werewolf", which may be why it was left untranslated.

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Excellent episode...

Spoiler for ep15:

... as we descend further into the pit, then hit bottom and catch a glimpse of a possible turn-around. The scene in the coffee-shop was as chilling as the scene at the town hall. Having seen a version with the preview, I am really, really looking forward to next week.

Spoiler for ch 15:

I too found this episode really effective at showing the apathy in the village, and the helplessness that Toshio feels. Though like wandering-dreamer, I'm a bit sad about some of the things they've cut out, and hope they'll be in the next episode!

[onna-chan]

Spoiler for Ep 15 and the series in general:

I also want the shiki to be victorious over the villagers. I'm also hoping Megumi doesn't get killed, be it by the villagers or by Natsuno, as he seems to really hate her.

[Hypernova]

Originally Posted by wandering-dreamer

Spoiler for episode 15:

And I have to admit I'm annoyed by the villagers in this episode with all their "We're sooooo modern in that we blindly follow the religion of science instead of blindly following religion, wohoo!" I can understand being rational about a situation but when the village has gone from a few deaths a summer to at least one a day over a few months and you simply accept it as the new norm, that's not exactly rational.

Funny thing is what the villagers are doing is unscientific

If you are truly scientific you would look at the evidence first as the good doctor has offered to. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence which he has.

Those villagers are just retarded ostriches, period.

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep15:

Werewolf...?
Kind of feels sudden that the story is introducing a new group/terminology so late into the story...
With Natsuno somehow alive again, there are some mysteries this episode I hope the anime does a good job of tying up.

Anyways, the episode was great as usual. Lacks the impact of the previous episode because it was really just an episode of the poor doctor trying to get support but instead has to put up with all of the idiotic villagers, but it can't be helped, since the previous episode was so... extreme.
As always, the Shikis are so... I wish I can see them suffer soon... And the Librarian... How long is he going to be in that outfit?

The priest's take on Toshio's actions...
Well, if he doesn't kill anything or eat meat in his life, than no problem with his choice.
Assuming he doesn't, that is.

Sato-chan...

Yasuyo's maid outfit...
SO do not want.


Next time... Akiraaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[konart]

Originally Posted by karice67

Spoiler for response to Shiroth and konart:

The question is: what do they mean by jinrou? It's obviously not the classic "werewolf", which may be why it was left untranslated.

Spoiler for response:

Well, there are no classic vampires here either. They all are shiki The difference is jinrou's ability to walk in daylight and smell the other shiki, or at least bodies that will rise.

[PzIVf3]

Spoiler for Episode 15:

Werewolf? Still dont get it. I can see Natsuno eyes not change anything than the rest of the K- families that his status is really alive. But his quick movement ability vanish in tin air is not a normal human anymore.

[Hypernova]

Originally Posted by PzIVf3

Spoiler for Episode 15:

Werewolf? Still dont get it. I can see Natsuno eyes not change anything than the rest of the K- families that his status is really alive. But his quick movement ability vanish in tin air is not a normal human anymore.

Well with werewolves comes super strength and other usual super powers.

[Kagura89]

Spoiler for episode 15:

What's with the flamboyant funeral ceremony handled by that guy
So Natsuno is back & he "different" from other Shiki, nice since he could allied himself with Toshio to fight them although him lacking of blood can hindered their action. I'm also digging his new outfit
Stupid villagers, Toshio is doing everything he can to prevent the disaster yet most of the remain ignorant or simply blinded themselves from what's happening now

[onna-chan]

Spoiler for Episode 15:

That's not true about Natsuno's eye's not changing. They don't change drastically but at the end of the ep they show a quick comparison and his eyes are fairly different and I can't be sure but he also seems a tad more pale.

[Hypernova]

lol someone noticed

[Hooves]

Spoiler for Episode 15:

I find the villagers to be dumb... There is plenty of evidence that their is something more then your average epidemic hitting the village, yet they remain blunt and think that its anything else instead of the supernatural phenomena of vampires walking at night. They think that they are too grown-up to believe in that superstitious nonsense. Toshio is trying everything he can, but everyone is giving up hope for him. He should have gotten a major hint that all the employees only work at night that they all have turned to vampires.. But something doesn't make since, why are they taking jobs?

Seishin will probably now understand Toshio's intentions and beliefs ever since Sunako (possibly) came in during that night, and wrote in his novel. The hint with Natsuno being on top of the tree was giving a clear sign of something. Since the other vampires still don't know that Natsuno has risen, its possible that he still retains that rebellious phase of his against vampires, and will fight them in death. He even told Toshio that he is not alone in his fight against the vampires, which means he will help the doctor out. Seishin will probably join in after thinking more of what he will need to do in order to save the village. But the mere thought of working with a vampire, who plague this city with their numbers, Toshio will probably not accept Natsuno that easily.

[ars89]

Originally Posted by Hooves

Spoiler for Episode 15:

Since the other vampires still don't know that Natsuno has risen, its possible that he still retains that rebellious phase of his against vampires, and will fight them in death.

Spoiler for question:

it is obvious that they don't know that he has risen, but didn't his father have the funeral at the crazy funeral house also. So wouldn't that mean that they should have observed him rise, unless he rose after they disposed of his body or after the time period he would rise up was over. So him rising up late would make him different then the other shiki

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by ars89

Spoiler for question:

it is obvious that they don't know that he has risen, but didn't his father have the funeral at the crazy funeral house also. So wouldn't that mean that they should have observed him rise, unless he rose after they disposed of his body or after the time period he would rise up was over. So him rising up late would make him different then the other shiki

Spoiler for Reply:

Good question, but remember when the other vampires thought that he would be cremated? That somewhat shows that the father did not have the funeral at the spot where they watch to see if vampires rise. Remember that talk between the father and the father of the Kirishiki family? (Sorry forgot the last name of the vampire leads) We never knew where Natsuno was buried at (or atleast I don't since I still havn't watched that episode where he died.) Or if it was taken at the funeral house, Natsuno played smart and acted dead for as long as he could when they were observing him. Making the other vampires eventually think that he was cremated.

[ars89]

Originally Posted by Hooves

Spoiler for Reply:

Good question, but remember when the other vampires thought that he would be cremated? That somewhat shows that the father did not have the funeral at the spot where they watch to see if vampires rise. Remember that talk between the father and the father of the Kirishiki family? (Sorry forgot the last name of the vampire leads) We never knew where Natsuno was buried at (or atleast I don't since I still havn't watched that episode where he died.) Or if it was taken at the funeral house, Natsuno played smart and acted dead for as long as he could when they were observing him. Making the other vampires eventually think that he was cremated.

that would make sense

[Guardian Enzo]

Spoiler for 15:

That was a much subtler experience, but still effecting. The episode spent the first 21 minutes isolating Toshio - from the villagers, from his staff, even from his best friend. But what happened at the end, while still opaque in meaning, feels like the first real hopeful moment in the series.

I agree that the scene in the village office was the creepiest of the episode. The shiki are really getting cocky at this point - will that be their undoing? I also found the revelation that Tatsumi is a werewolf quite logical - there's a precedent in horror fiction for werewolves to serve vampires. But just what is Natsuno now, anyway - and what was the meaning of Sunako's liner notes?

[stadtkind]

And the bizarre references continue... The funeral house guy was clearly modeled on Willy Wonka, he even handed out a chocolate bar. He looked more like a character out of Kuroshitsuji to me...and I don't mean that as a good thing. :P

Spoiler for ep.15:

I'm quite curious to know what exactly Natsuno has become because his eyes are definitely NOT like other Shiki.

BTW what's the DVD with mini-soundtrack release date again? The wait is killing me! This show has such wonderful music I don't know why we're not getting a proper soundtrack release! Also can someone recommend any other anime with music by Yasuharu in the Shiki/Jigoku shoujo kind of style?