Claymore - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll

[Pellissier]

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[Varis]

how can there be an ep. after Teresa died? =(

[Mentar]

Since this was the perfect example of a "transitional episode", I'll only give it an 8, but I was much more pleased with it than the result displays. Why? Because the final really critical issue for me was the quality of the voice actors for Miria, Deneve and especially Helen. And I'm very pleased.

Helen is 100% spot on exactly what I hoped for. Light and clear voice, but not in the least dollish, with a hard and aggressive edge. She's a very temperamental character, and I'm sure she'll do just fine.

Deneve also fits like a glove. More controlled and very self-assured. No-nonsense type.

Miria very slightly deviated from my expectations early on because she showed a bit more emotion while chastising Clare for acting alone than I had expected. However, throughout the rest of the show, her timbre was exactly as I had imagined before.

I'm SO looking forward to the rest of the ride now ^_^

[Defiled one]

I´m still mourning...I`ll give my results

[Deathkillz]

well this is where the fun starts

clare is a strong girl so i cant wait to see how she works her way to become a claymore...ill be giving her my 100% support throughout :3

*mourns more for teresa*

[SimplyEd]

Originally Posted by Varis

how can there be an ep. after Teresa died? =(

Quoted for truth. How dares the world to simply continue onwards?

Anyway, didn't get a chance to watch it yet so, i'll give it my vote of confidence later^^ Too sleepy now.

[Mentar]

One little addition: I'd say that in a way, the training match between Clare and Miria was the best-animated swordfight so far. Dynamic and very detailed. Liked it alot!

[Archmagination2002]

Spoiler for Teresa's Flesh, Blood +Clair:

Did they put in the part about Claire finding Rubal and taking Teresa's Flesh+Blood into her?

[ruurguy]

Originally Posted by Archmagination2002

Spoiler for Teresa's Flesh, Blood +Clair:

Did they put in the part about Claire finding Rubal and taking Teresa's Flesh+Blood into her?

Spoiler for Reply:

Yes they did put it in right at the beginning.

[Deathkillz]

just watched...

Spoiler:

oh dam...so they didnt have anything for the intermediate my mistake >.<

seeing clare taking teresa's severed head and running through town like a lost lamb...that got my emotions flowing again >__<

then moving onto the present timeline we see clare given a mission to join up with 3 other claymores...and it just hit me...claymores dont form good teams especially when there a weak link...and clare being the weakest ranked claymore doesnt help...

the fight between clare and Miria was awesome! everything seemed like it was fast forwarded (which at times seemed a bit odd ) ~ clare passes out but she sees teresa's sword skills...this is going to be useful...

at the end the group nears their destination where they ment a man...who is actually a youma...Miria (rank 6) gets injured and he shows his true form...

[Negativedark]

When I'm at my friends house, I'll have to see if I can use his actually decent speed internet, to see a clip with everyones voices and see how they fit up with what I imagined.

[MrProphet]

Well, it was a pretty good episode. I thought it had a usual mix of both shoddy chara work and fine animation. As has become the norm with these recent episodes, much of the attention is paid toward animating swordplay (which was exceptionally well-executed for a filler episode) and backgrounds, while characters were only a secondary concern.

This was seen, for example, when Helen was making her usual jokes at Clare's expense while her face was painfully static. The seiyuu was so good, yet the animation just couldn't keep up with the appropriate facial expressions. But, this is a general problem for the show, so I already got used to it.

As for the new seiyuus, I thought they did a good job. Miria is very commanding and authoritative. Deneve is calm, but forceful. Helen is snarky and cheerful.

I never really cared for Deneve's character (she basically has no personality whatsoever), but I always loved Helen. I though she was really well done in this episode, exactly as I has foreseen her character. She is my favorite Claymore apart from the one that is a spoiler for now, so I am quite happy about that part.

One thing that stuck me, by the way, is that Helen referred to Raki as Clare's boytoy. Which rather suggests that claymores, for all of their demonic nature, do keep sexual relationships. But I am still puzzled about an episode in one of the previous installments where Teresa undresses herself and the bandits' face show revulsion and disgust. That part was never adequately explained. What's so terrible about their bodies? They don't seem to be terribly disfigured, from what we've seen.

[the_firefly]

I'm so glad they didn't skip over the part with Clare at the beginning. With the way it ended last week, I wasn't sure if that would be covered.

With the new voices, I was especially happy with Helen and Deneve. Both were spot on and I loved the playful undertones in Helen's voice. Miria took a bit of getting used to. I always thought of her as having a softer sounding voice. But all three were excellent choices in the end.

And Clare knocking Raki in the head never fails to amuse me.

[SapientiSat]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

Well, it was a pretty good episode. I thought it had a usual mix of both shoddy chara work and fine animation. As has become the norm with these recent episodes, much of the attention is paid toward animating swordplay (which was exceptionally well-executed for a filler episode) and backgrounds, while characters were only a secondary concern.

This was seen, for example, when Helen was making her usual jokes at Clare's expense while her face was painfully static. The seiyuu was so good, yet the animation just couldn't keep up with the appropriate facial expressions. But, this is a general problem for the show, so I already got used to it.

As for the new seiyuus, I thought they did a good job. Miria is very commanding and authoritative. Deneve is calm, but forceful. Helen is snarky and cheerful.

I never really cared for Deneve's character (she basically has no personality whatsoever), but I always loved Helen. I though she was really well done in this episode, exactly as I has foreseen her character. She is my favorite Claymore apart from the one that is a spoiler for now, so I am quite happy about that part.

One thing that stuck me, by the way, is that Helen referred to Raki as Clare's boytoy. Which rather suggests that claymores, for all of their demonic nature, do keep sexual relationships. But I am still puzzled about an episode in one of the previous installments where Teresa undresses herself and the bandits' face show revulsion and disgust. That part was never adequately explained. What's so terrible about their bodies? They don't seem to be terribly disfigured, from what we've seen.

It was most probably something specific to Teresa. Teresa was depicted as a Claymore who hardly used her powers, so maybe she was using her regeneration powers sparingly too. If she just healed the wounds in her chest or abdomen area until the damage is gone and didn't care about the scars, it might look gross. Kind of makes sense as she didn't look like a character who cared about dating or looking good when naked.

[NoSanninWa]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

But I am still puzzled about an episode in one of the previous installments where Teresa undresses herself and the bandits' face show revulsion and disgust. That part was never adequately explained. What's so terrible about their bodies? They don't seem to be terribly disfigured, from what we've seen.

All we know about it so far is what Clare said to Theresa, "Doesn't it hurt?" Their torso looks like it must be a source of pain. Maybe their stomach/breasts are a tortured knot of scars and mismatched flesh.

[MrProphet]

Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

All we know about it so far is what Clare said to Theresa, "Doesn't it hurt?" Their torso looks like it must be a source of pain. Maybe their stomach/breasts are a tortured knot of scars and mismatched flesh.

This is a bit off-topic as far as this episode goes, but I think Clare was speaking figuratively. After all, she did not see Teresa's body under her clothes in that scene, so I don't think you are correct.

Speaking of clothes, what exactly are Claymores wearing? Seems like most of them only have vambraces, spaulders and some ultralight version of a cuirass or a hauberk.

Which is rather silly. Why wear those massive spaulders, if your chest isn't protected by some plate armour? I mean, either you need maneuverability or you need protection. It doesn't seem reasonable to go half-way and achieve neither. Of course, we could discount it due to mangaka's aesthetic principles, but I do find it silly that supposedly monstrously strong warriors who swing around huge two-handers would be so sparsely protected.

[the_firefly]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

One thing that stuck me, by the way, is that Helen referred to Raki as Clare's boytoy.

I always saw that scene as Helen just trying to get under Clare's skin. Because that's just how Helen is.

[MrProphet]

Originally Posted by the_firefly

I always saw that scene as Helen just trying to get under Clare's skin. Because that's just how Helen is.

Yes, of course she is trying to do that. I was talking about the fact that claymores in general may have lovers whom they tug around. Which would suggest things about them.

[NoSanninWa]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

This is a bit off-topic as far as this episode goes, but I think Clare was speaking figuratively. After all, she did not see Teresa's body under her clothes in that scene, so I don't think you are correct.

Of course she could see Theresa's body. The bandit had already torn open her shirt. It was hanging in tatters.

[Kouvley]

So the new cast of claymores are introduced in this ep, let's hope they last a bit longer than the last batch eh?

Actually I've noticed Irene features quite prominently in the OP, so maybe she isn't dead yet?