2011-03-19, 10:55 | Link #201 |
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Not sure...from what I heard the alpha preceding this build proved to be quite unstable - but then again, it's an alpha: it takes care of new tech implementation and performance boosting, whereas betas are supposed to stabilize the core.
I'm still withholding on 11.10 until either RC or final build. The only bells and whistles they cared showcasing were the evolution of the speed dial, which has been mentioned in my previous posts, but otherwise it's seems it's a roundup of exotic crashes and other internal/GUI improvements. As for IE9, it makes no doubt there is a Chrome GUI factor playing a sizable part in the design, but they've been wanting to simplify things with the fusion of the search bar and the address bar, as well as giving the page display area more real estate (the detail is ridiculous, but they went even as far as eliminating the pixel line / lower edge below the address/bookmarks bar). It is nevertheless possible to return to a more IE8-like appearance if you decide to bring all tabs to a separate row and force all other bars (menu, bookmarks, status) to become visible. And, oh, contrarily to what I also posted before, it seems Mozilla actually deigned compile an RC2 - which is the last build until next week's RTW.
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2011-03-19, 11:27 | Link #202 |
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I've tried both firefox and the opera (there was a recent build to fix RC bugs).
Opera's speed dial doesn't look better to me, it just looks different; overall there's nothing to it, it's just your average bugfix release—I'm getting this impression it's slower though. I'll post here if it crashes on me and I switch back. As for Firefox. Am I the only one who think the interface is damn ugly? It feels like it's designed by a non-designer. You just have random padding here, random margin there, some things too small, other things too big. And the color pallet is pretty ugly and random. There's no symmetry or synergy in the design at all. If they wanted just a interface they should have simply emulated the OS's interface more, rather then botch something together like this. Personally I don't like fighting with the interface, no matter how good the technology behind it is. I feel like, with the exception of Chrome, major browsers are just becoming more lame with each new version. The only good thing in recent years is that the support for standards is strong.
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2011-03-21, 16:20 | Link #204 |
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You edited a fact and an opinion, good job?
And on what you made say if you're running a different browser the risks aren't the same at all IE has a had an awful track record with security flaws in addition since it has the largest share of web browser usage[about 56.8% currently] anyone attempting to exploit a security flaw for profit or causing damage would generally want to effect as many targets as easily as possible to get the most done from their work, which means it's a more likely target so having less security isn't acceptable for such a large share of the users to be put at risk. And on the security source you used earlier, Pwn2Own 2011, you either intentional didn't mention the fact that no1 had managed exploit firefox during it this year or didn't realize that was the case.
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2011-03-21, 18:32 | Link #205 |
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I'm using Chrome at the moment, and it is indeed faster than what I was experiencing in Firefox. I wasn't a big add-on user, so I'm not really noticing a loss of what I can do with this browser. I'll keep using it for awhile longer. Nostalgia: I remember when Firefox was first released. It beat the shit out of what I was using at the time, that being Internet Explorer. Tabbed browsing, and all those standard features of browsers these days! Firefox was certainly great back then.
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2011-03-21, 21:58 | Link #206 |
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I remember firefox back with 1.5, I came from IE and it was so great, the best browser I had and I still remember all the love I gave him
After came firefox 2.0, was great, A good upgrade for 1.5. Than 3.0, ok, I still was using it I wasn't knowing anything else. 3.5... Bof 3.6 I hate it from all my might. Than I got opera 10 beta, wow, I had difficulty at first, my first love was still in my heart, but with time I start to fall in love and now I can't let it go. Tried chrome, but didn't love it, I don't know why. Firefox 4.0 ... ... really, I don't know what to say about it, I just hate what it became. |
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Obviously, you missed the point. Good job.
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The point is, unless you're still using IE6 on XP today, the risk of being a victim of malware by simply using IE is not as great as to discount IE as a usable browser. Today, IE9 + Win7 is perfectly an acceptable option for browsing the web. You'd be more likely to be a victim of social engineering than an IE exploit. Quote:
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2011-03-23, 03:01 | Link #210 |
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Personally, I like Chrome the most. It is fast, minimalistic, simple, has a very clean interface and, best of all, its interface is so well put together that it takes very little space and you get to see most of the web page.
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2011-03-23, 08:27 | Link #211 |
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Just so everyone knows firefox 4 was released yesterday (those on XP have to update to 3.6.16 before being able to update to 4 of which the former only got released today) and even though it is starting to look like chrome it looks a bit neater (if you use adblock plus the icon isn't glued into the address bar like it is in chrome) and if you use either windows vista or 7 you have two options when looking at your bookmarks (the bookmarks button on the right or the bookmarks option when you click the funky firefox button on the top left of the window).
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2011-03-23, 23:03 | Link #212 | |
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If you want to try it on (K)ubuntu, just add the following repository in Synaptic: ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+...firefox-stable
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2011-03-24, 01:19 | Link #213 | |
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Oh sorry, I thought you had, but it was someone else using it as a source.
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2011-03-24, 01:45 | Link #214 | |
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It's like the people who don't want to use Windows because it's targeted by malware. That's fine for them, but the existance of malware targeting Windows wouldn't stop me from using Windows completely. Heck, I've been using Windows for nearly 20 years and I rarely have problems due to malware. And the last time was over seven years ago, and it was not from using IE. |
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2011-03-24, 03:54 | Link #215 | |
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2011-03-24, 04:53 | Link #216 | |
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So my original point still stands that IE, especially IE8 and IE9 on Vista/7, is a perfectly usable browser for browsing the web today. |
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2011-03-24, 10:55 | Link #217 |
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I tried Firefox 4 on Mac OS X... the speed is very good considering that they have finally switched over to 64-bit like Safari 5. I tried it for a few hours and as always the memory usage is very excessive. It was using 400-500 MB at one time when I have 1 window open.
I did a test right now comparing the memory usage, and it uses 38.5% more memory than Safari... probably this percentage will be more if compared to Chrome (including the individual processes). Until then, I will stick with Safari on Mac OS X until they fix this issue. Result:
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2011-03-24, 18:59 | Link #219 | |
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I guess the wait continues... until Firefox 5 fixes these issues.
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2011-03-24, 22:30 | Link #220 | |
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Right now, I've been using Firefox 4 for some time already, and it's using 200MB. This is the 64-bit version on Kubuntu Maverick from the Mozillateam repository I gave above.
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