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Chosen_Hero · 2014-06-25, 18:19

Yet another dissapointing season finale (man, this anime season is shockful of them

), I like the anime just fine and know there is still season 2 it's just, I don't know how to explain it but something feels off.

HandofFate · 2014-06-25, 18:20

I wonder with Vivi turning Chaika, and the blue Chaika have any connection?
Like since this is written by the same author of Scrapped Princess.

All these girls have the latent potential to be Chaikas. But there can only be X number at the same time, so when blue Chaika died, it opened up a spot, and whoever got triggered next will take her spot.

zztop · 2014-06-25, 18:23

1) It's interesting to think that just as there are multiple Chaikas, so too could multiple Guys exist.
Presuming the Guys saved Gilette, I wonder why save him. Guess we'll have to wait for Season 2.

2)I wonder if there ever was a real Vivi, or if Vivi was just a false persona for this new Chaika, which broke when she thought Gilette died.

Vaans · 2014-06-25, 20:43

Good ending.

Ricardo is finally dead and so is Layla. Totally did not expect Viivi turning into Chaika. White hair, purple eyes, supposedly thick eyebrows. Yup, that's a sign over there.

Toru and Chaika kissed! Woohoo! Toru was going to kiss her again until Akari interrupted. I don't believe that Gilette is dead either. Because thats kinda cheap. Plus if he's really dead, where's his corpse? That laser attack isn't powerful enough to vaporize anyone as there were still corpses laying around. Must not forget about Frederica, I'm also glad that she's alive and okay.

I feel bad about those girls who where captive and carved. Not a single one was saved. Oh well...

Random Wanderer · 2014-06-25, 20:49

This has been mentioned already, but for you folks who are still wondering about Gillette's survival beyond just the "didn't find the body" trope, here's a screenshot for you to pay close attention to:

Images

hint: look behind him

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Top Sergeant · 2014-06-25, 20:53

I loved Akari's revenge, it was very much in line with her character.

No threats, no shouts, no monologue. Just hit him in the head with a hammer and be done.

bakato · 2014-06-25, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Breimoon

she seems to have turned in a Chaika?? Why? And i don't think i saw a scar on the nexk like other chaikas

I don't know. That scene looked more like Allen Walker-style hair. You know where extreme psychological trauma turns hair white.

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Originally Posted by askara

Gilette is obviously not dead, there is two of the informer guy(or was it him? how comes there is 2?) behind him.

but yea the anime must skipped tons of stuff i mean we still know nothing about phycho kid and Gado. it feel more like plot summary than adaptation of the LN but meh this happen to most LN anime for some reason. i mean whats the hurry?

That said I can't believe this would actually get a second season after all the content butchering.

Off to become a dragon cavalier? The most obvious foreshadowing I ever heard.

Random Wanderer · 2014-06-25, 21:05

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Originally Posted by bakato

I don't know. That scene looked more like Allen Walker-style hair. You know where extreme psychological trauma turns hair white.

That won't turn your eyes purple at the same time, though. Also, speaking naturally, once hair has grown from the scalp a particular color, it stays that color (unless you dye it or whatever, of course). Even if all further hair that is grown would be white, hair already grown would not change color.

Master_Yoma · 2014-06-25, 21:10

Wow Fredrica with a chestburster chibi of her self just creepy cute

7/10 waiting for season 2

videoman190 · 2014-06-25, 21:37

Didn't like they treat Fredrica like Kenny but at least she can regenerate. She has to live if she wants to fight Toru.

Hiss13 · 2014-06-25, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

This has been mentioned already, but for you folks who are still wondering about Gillette's survival beyond just the "didn't find the body" trope, here's a screenshot for you to pay close attention to:

Images

hint: look behind him

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I actually didn't notice this until I went to that scene a second time. That image was actually pretty creepy though.

So much just happened in this episode. Vivi became a Chaika out of rage. Gilette disappeared. Frederica got an even more chibi form.
The fact that Toru may become a Dragon Cavalier intrigues me.

I am assuming that the old man with the third eye in the promo picture for the second season is Emperor Gaz?

Personally, as someone who is coming into this as an anime-only person, I find this series to be pretty good as a stand-alone.

All of these disconnected thoughts.

Esclair · 2014-06-25, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Hiss13

I actually didn't notice this until I went to that scene a second time. That image was actually pretty creepy though.

So much just happened in this episode. Vivi became a Chaika out of rage. Gilette disappeared. Frederica got an even more chibi form.
The fact that Toru may become a Dragon Cavalier intrigues me.

I am assuming that the old man with the third eye in the promo picture for the second season is Emperor Gaz?

Personally, as someone who is coming into this as an anime-only person, I find this series to be pretty good as a stand-alone.

Yeah, I think they did a good job for people who didn't read the LN's. With other other, it's very obvious when they omit stuff because things feel really rushed or details are missing which make you scratch your head. Chaika seems to have been rewritten in a way where the cut content isn't noticeable unless you already knew about it, and anything important is moved to other parts of the story that do get adapted.

Anyways, a fairly solid ending to the 3 episode arc and the mid season finale. Can't wait for CHAIKA CHAIKA!

Also:

Spoiler:

Naotsugu · 2014-06-25, 22:36

Was I the only one who thought that Ricardo was very much like Ryunosuke from Fate/Zero?

Iby · 2014-06-25, 23:30

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Originally Posted by dark998

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Originally Posted by Iby

I've got the episode to novel volume comparison for those who interested (thankfully people started adding those for the novel adaptations on wiki):
1-2 - Vol.1
3-4 - Vol.2
5-6 - Vol.4
7 - Vol.3
8 - Original
9 - Original first half + second half based on a story from Vol.1
10 - Vol.5
11 - Vol.5 + Vol.6

9 is Vol. 5 afaik, minus the second flashback (from Vol. 1)

Well, you can edit the wikipedia entry if you know better.

And...
12 - Vol.6
So, 1.5 episode for a volume? Great.

dark998 · 2014-06-25, 23:36

Great episode as expected. Liked a lot how each character in the main cast managed to solve their personal duels (Toru defeats Ricardo, Chaika knocks out Layla, Akari crushes Grad's head and Fredrika using her dragoon firepower to mow those spider monsters).

That scene where Chaika saves Toru, packed with kiss and almost another one, was pure gold. OTP was delivered so hard. And the anime is only halfway done.

Vivi's transformation was quite the twist, so far all the Chaikas were introduced as unique characters but was not expecting a known side cast member to become one as well. Gillette is most likely alive but I wonder if Layla survived too..off-screen death in anime usually is not definitive.

All in all very nice first half with likable cast, decent storyline and good action. October is so far away.

frodonk · 2014-06-26, 02:09

"My greatest weakness is when my brain gets damaged, I can regenerate any damage to my body but not my brain."

gets stabbed in the brain..

"just kidding! I can totally have a chibi version of me burst out of my chest. I can't really die"

once again, why point out that the only way to kill a dragoon was to target it on the head, and when the enemy does exactly that, she survives?

but I did enjoy the ride, and I don't mind the s2 announcement. Now if only every other good series this season had an s2 too..

Flower · 2014-06-26, 02:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by frodonk

"My greatest weakness is when my brain gets damaged, I can regenerate any damage to my body but not my brain."

gets stabbed in the brain..

"just kidding! I can totally have a chibi version of me burst out of my chest. I can't really die"

once again, why point out that the only way to kill a dragoon was to target it on the head, and when the enemy does exactly that, she survives?

but I did enjoy the ride, and I don't mind the s2 announcement. Now if only every other good series this season had an s2 too..

Well to be fair it was pointed out in ep 5 or so and then she was defeated exactly by that method. Why not have her come up with a countermeasure if she could?

Benigmatica · 2014-06-26, 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

This has been mentioned already, but for you folks who are still wondering about Gillette's survival beyond just the "didn't find the body" trope, here's a screenshot for you to pay close attention to:

Images

hint: look behind him

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Spoiler for Episode 12:

With that said, a great finale to the first half... I can't wait for the second this Fall!

Oh well, might as well watch Scrapped Princess for the time being.

Flower · 2014-06-26, 02:15

You know we actually do not know if the Guy copies are "clones" per se, like the Chaikas, having physical bodies. For all we know they could be something else....

frodonk · 2014-06-26, 02:15

she did say that she learned to do that after she was defeated, and I thought it was when those creepy crawly things stabbed her.

if it was before that then there's no issue and I stand corrected

2014-06-25, 18:19	Link #901
Chosen_Hero Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014	Yet another dissapointing season finale (man, this anime season is shockful of them), I like the anime just fine and know there is still season 2 it's just, I don't know how to explain it but something feels off. __________________

2014-06-25, 18:20	Link #902
HandofFate Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	I wonder with Vivi turning Chaika, and the blue Chaika have any connection? Like since this is written by the same author of Scrapped Princess. All these girls have the latent potential to be Chaikas. But there can only be X number at the same time, so when blue Chaika died, it opened up a spot, and whoever got triggered next will take her spot. __________________ ...

2014-06-25, 20:43	Link #904
Vaans NEET Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Manila	Good ending. Ricardo is finally dead and so is Layla. Totally did not expect Viivi turning into Chaika. White hair, purple eyes, supposedly thick eyebrows. Yup, that's a sign over there. Toru and Chaika kissed! Woohoo! Toru was going to kiss her again until Akari interrupted. I don't believe that Gilette is dead either. Because thats kinda cheap. Plus if he's really dead, where's his corpse? That laser attack isn't powerful enough to vaporize anyone as there were still corpses laying around. Must not forget about Frederica, I'm also glad that she's alive and okay. I feel bad about those girls who where captive and carved. Not a single one was saved. Oh well... __________________ “A cop pulled me over and told me "Papers", so I said "Scissors, I win!" and drove off. - http://coolfunnyquotes.com .” Last edited by Vaans; 2014-06-25 at 21:38.

2014-06-25, 20:49	Link #905
Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	This has been mentioned already, but for you folks who are still wondering about Gillette's survival beyond just the "didn't find the body" trope, here's a screenshot for you to pay close attention to: Images hint: look behind him Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

2014-06-25, 21:10	Link #909
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	Wow Fredrica with a chestburster chibi of her self just creepy cute 7/10 waiting for season 2 __________________

2014-06-25, 18:23	Link #903
zztop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013	1) It's interesting to think that just as there are multiple Chaikas, so too could multiple Guys exist. Presuming the Guys saved Gilette, I wonder why save him. Guess we'll have to wait for Season 2. 2)I wonder if there ever was a real Vivi, or if Vivi was just a false persona for this new Chaika, which broke when she thought Gilette died.

2014-06-25, 20:53	Link #906
Top Sergeant Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: By that dark and bloody river called Ohio. Age: 59	I loved Akari's revenge, it was very much in line with her character. No threats, no shouts, no monologue. Just hit him in the head with a hammer and be done.

2014-06-25, 21:37	Link #910
videoman190 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Washington DC	Didn't like they treat Fredrica like Kenny but at least she can regenerate. She has to live if she wants to fight Toru.

2014-06-25, 22:36	Link #913
Naotsugu swagmasta420 Join Date: Mar 2014	Was I the only one who thought that Ricardo was very much like Ryunosuke from Fate/Zero? __________________

2014-06-25, 23:36	Link #915
dark998 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Great episode as expected. Liked a lot how each character in the main cast managed to solve their personal duels (Toru defeats Ricardo, Chaika knocks out Layla, Akari crushes Grad's head and Fredrika using her dragoon firepower to mow those spider monsters). That scene where Chaika saves Toru, packed with kiss and almost another one, was pure gold. OTP was delivered so hard. And the anime is only halfway done. Vivi's transformation was quite the twist, so far all the Chaikas were introduced as unique characters but was not expecting a known side cast member to become one as well. Gillette is most likely alive but I wonder if Layla survived too..off-screen death in anime usually is not definitive. All in all very nice first half with likable cast, decent storyline and good action. October is so far away.

2014-06-26, 02:09	Link #916
frodonk Master of Killing Time Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Makinohara Service Area	"My greatest weakness is when my brain gets damaged, I can regenerate any damage to my body but not my brain." gets stabbed in the brain.. "just kidding! I can totally have a chibi version of me burst out of my chest. I can't really die" once again, why point out that the only way to kill a dragoon was to target it on the head, and when the enemy does exactly that, she survives? but I did enjoy the ride, and I don't mind the s2 announcement. Now if only every other good series this season had an s2 too.. __________________ Just my MAL profile, I'm putting this here for no particular reason.

2014-06-26, 02:15	Link #919
Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	You know we actually do not know if the Guy copies are "clones" per se, like the Chaikas, having physical bodies. For all we know they could be something else.... __________________

2014-06-26, 02:15	Link #920
frodonk Master of Killing Time Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Makinohara Service Area	she did say that she learned to do that after she was defeated, and I thought it was when those creepy crawly things stabbed her. if it was before that then there's no issue and I stand corrected __________________ Just my MAL profile, I'm putting this here for no particular reason.