2012-07-11, 20:15 | Link #1061 |
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Regarding guilt levels etc, as this is a free-fire zone:
Spoiler for Ultimate fate of PKers:
As for the killing itself, at least under British Law, which I studied, you'd need to prove a certain chain of causation, and pull in the Reasonable Man test for loads of things. Is Kayaba's assertation that death ingame is reasonable and believable? - among other things. As for mens rea, the barest minimum you need is to prove the intent to cause grievous bodily harm, and the actus rea is the act itself. Mens rea may not be provable, but it should be possible to establish causation by using server logs - time D PKs V is recorded and shows cause of death, and system establishes D is the killer, then in the real world the NervGear kills the player. But since mens rea may not be provable, you'd get Manslaughter instead. (i'm simplifying a lot from what I studied.)
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2012-07-11, 21:09 | Link #1062 | ||
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2012-07-11, 21:55 | Link #1064 |
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Uh, no. Negligence wouldn't arise in a murder trial - at least, a British trial, which is the paradigm I approach from - but that would be involved in the various inevitable lawsuits Argas would be tied up in - under British law, they're vicariously liable for all the shit Kayaba pulled while employed by them.
Manslaughter may be an easier sell than murder, though most likely a prosecutor would prefer to go after Kayaba because it'd be easier to finger him, as opposed to youths who chant, "We thought it was just a game!" That said depending how the judge directs the jury, and how the prosecution makes the case and the defence plays things out... In a jury trial, anything could happen. Contract tends to be a bit more clear cut, which wasrobably why I liked contract a lot more. Also, Jack Thompson would have had a field day with this poaching-murder-sex simulator game.
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2012-07-11, 22:16 | Link #1065 |
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hm does the blond girl that appeared with kirito asuna with a new avatar? or is she a completely diferent person?
edit: if it is her what happened?why didn't she reconized kirito since his avatar has the same looks that his body in the real world? |
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2012-07-11, 23:21 | Link #1067 |
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Will in game recordings be possible to use in court as evidence? or is the possibility of fabrication too high for that?
Then again old Aincrad was destroyed so most data was wiped out...
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2012-07-11, 23:33 | Link #1068 |
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Er, I'm sorry if this is trouble for you guys but any1 can tell me the flow of story after vol 7, vol 8 is collection of side stories and vol 9's beginning is really confusing me. Honestly, I do not know how to keep track of the story after vol 7
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2012-07-11, 23:37 | Link #1069 | |
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As for Vol9, just skip prologue 1 and start with prologue 2. Go back to prologue 1 after finishing ch1. makes more sense that way.
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2012-07-11, 23:42 | Link #1070 | |
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vol.9 is the beginning of the Alicization arc, which is the longest and final arc of SAO, and is about Kirito's experience in Underworld, an accelerated digital construct similiar to the one you see in AW. |
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2012-07-12, 03:01 | Link #1074 | |
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We won't really know if it fits until the series ends lol. XD
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2012-07-12, 03:26 | Link #1075 | |
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Hence the author probably already got a general idea on how he'll end Allicization. btw, anyone read vol 10 yet? Can someone summarize it in one go? I really wanna know what happened to Kirito. Who's Alice anyway? A sentient AI like Yui? ps: ugh, too many threads. Why do we need thread about spoiler & speculations for LN reader if we have this LN thread anyway? soo confusing. |
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2012-07-12, 03:53 | Link #1076 | |
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But yeah waiting for some plot summaries also. :3
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2012-07-12, 06:31 | Link #1080 |
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...it's a pretty easy sell. As long as they're aware that there's a possibility of death that should be enough. They don't have to believe its true or even think it's likely. The fact that it's in a computer is basically irrelevant. If a man tells you that someone is tied up in the next room and that by pushing a button you'll electrocute them or whatever, then pushing the button is reckless. The fact that you have no proof that there's someone else in the other room is irrelevant.
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