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NoemiChan · 2012-04-15, 01:28

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

I'm good with Joan.

Try Joana or Kyona, oh that reminds me of a "princess".

Ithekro · 2012-04-15, 01:42

The greatest problem we had with this debate was that we never found out why it was "John Smith". If it was just Kyon coming up with a common as dirt English name on the fly, or if it had other meaning (such as being close to Kyon...though why he'd pick that when he keeps saying he doesn't like his nickname I can't know).

Then there was if the genderbent version needed to follow "John Smith" as a close example with Joan Smith, even though that isn't common, go with Jane Doe, even though that isn't a real name, or go with the actual common name which is Mary Smith. And all the variations. (like Mary Sue Smith)

Again the trouble is that we don't know if there is any meaning behind Kyon using "John Smith" to answer Haruhi's question about his name "three years ago" with no prompting from anyone. Later, he would discover the power he held with "John Smith" but he didn't when he said it (Even young Haruhi called him on using such a name).

If there is no meaning behind the name, it really doesn't matter what it is, just as long as it would seem like a logical English name for Kyonko to come up with to Haruki's random name question "three years ago" which Haruki will call her on just like Haruhi called Kyon on his choice.

Sherby~ · 2012-04-15, 02:03

I thought there was something official at some point about why Kyon chose "John Smith", like an interview or a character book or something. I forgot exactly what it was though.

Ithekro · 2012-04-15, 02:12

But then again, a lot of these debates were more than "three years ago"

Sherby~ · 2012-04-15, 02:24

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

But then again, a lot of these debates were more than "three years ago"

-badum chhhh-

(I knew that would come in handy someday!)

So, until we get a definite reason and consensus, what name should we use for the time being? Still "Jane Smith"?

DJ_RockmanX · 2012-04-15, 02:36

Joan Smith. Sounds like John Smith. It was used a doujin or two. I'm good.

dragon4dudes · 2012-04-15, 03:40

I'm more on favor of a slightly more common given name. But seeing as is really doesn't matter right now, Joan Smith is good enough.

Aerii · 2012-04-16, 09:41

I've always been in support of Jane Doe. If a girl is randomly coming up with a pseudonym to refer to herself by, it's a lot more likely to be "Jane Doe" than "Joan Smith". Even though they're closer to "John", "Joan Smith" and "Jane Smith" just have too much thought put into it, imo. But if Joan Smith has already been used in a doujin, then sure, why not?

...And before you ask "Who the hell are you?", I'm just Aerii, a randomly appearing newb... [points at Join Date] Sort of. I joined and posted here, like, four years ago entirely because I liked your seitenkan project thing. Still do. You've halted the novel rewrites and started working on a doujin visual novel... right? orz. I'm a self-proclaimed artist and I actually know how to use Ren'Py with some proficiency so I might be able to help. I'll admit that I'm not the best at adapting my style though. (I'll also admit that I'm only just now in the process of reading Boredom...)

EDIT: BTW, I looooved Aebliss's fanfic, The Setsubun of Suzumiya Haruki. I forgot to mention that. The whole thing was just really, really good. And I love Sherby's screencaps. And my weakness as an artist is lineart but I'm pretty good at coloring. Um. I think that's everything.

dragon4dudes · 2012-04-16, 15:13

Holy $#@! an artist!

Sherby~ · 2012-04-17, 00:03

Glad you like our stuff, Aerii! (And happy to know you like Jane Doe too.

)
The VN project is on hiatus right now, but I've gotten Kaisos to continue with at least one chapter of Disappearance (hopefully).
And yeah, we could always use more artists here. But, since the VN's at a standstill, at this point, I just do character designs and the caps. Is there anything in particular you'd be interested in drawing right now?

Aerii · 2012-04-17, 09:27

I don't know, what do you guys need? orz. I kinda wanted to draw sprites. I can draw backgrounds a little (and I'm better at interiors than exteriors with that), but I prefer not to--it's the one thing I actually dislike drawing. But since the VN is on hiatus, I can't think of anything I could help with besides maybe doing illustrations for the novel or something...?

Nanao-kun · 2012-04-18, 01:28

Glad to see this is still getting some attention.

Ithekro · 2012-04-18, 01:35

Best bet is to find something (a scene maybe) and draw it. After one or two of those then someone will probably have an idea of what they would like you to do.

Roger Rambo · 2012-04-20, 05:55

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Originally Posted by Aerii

EDIT: BTW, I looooved Aebliss's fanfic, The Setsubun of Suzumiya Haruki. I forgot to mention that. The whole thing was just really, really good. And I love Sherby's screencaps. And my weakness as an artist is lineart but I'm pretty good at coloring. Um. I think that's everything.

Ah yes, Setsubun. That was probably the best genderbent fanfiction for the Haruhi series that I ever read.

scify · 2012-04-21, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Ah yes, Setsubun. That was probably the best genderbent fanfiction for the Haruhi series that I ever read.

It's the main reason I came back and lurked a bit. Also Katawa Shoujo-induced nostalgia.

Zmflavius · 2012-04-21, 21:44

I've just read through the story archives, and I have to say I'm really interested in doing some re-writes myself.

I was wondering, are there any guidelines that I should probably adhere to? The FAQ was sort of vague, and kind of outdated, it seemed.

Tyabann · 2012-04-22, 01:59

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Originally Posted by Zmflavius

I've just read through the story archives, and I have to say I'm really interested in doing some re-writes myself.

I was wondering, are there any guidelines that I should probably adhere to? The FAQ was sort of vague, and kind of outdated, it seemed.

Send me a PM and we'll talk about this.

z-one · 2012-04-22, 20:44

I'm not sure that it is possible to make the entire genderblend anime from the orginal. But I think that it might be possible because I have seen some bit's of it on youtube.

Seitsuki · 2012-04-23, 18:23

Oh wow, I thought this was just a discussion but it's an actual project! Or something.

Could someone please give a quick rundown of what you guys are doing?

bhl88 · 2012-04-23, 18:28

Find the most common name? What about Jane or Elizabeth XD

2012-04-15, 01:42	Link #23062
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	The greatest problem we had with this debate was that we never found out why it was "John Smith". If it was just Kyon coming up with a common as dirt English name on the fly, or if it had other meaning (such as being close to Kyon...though why he'd pick that when he keeps saying he doesn't like his nickname I can't know). Then there was if the genderbent version needed to follow "John Smith" as a close example with Joan Smith, even though that isn't common, go with Jane Doe, even though that isn't a real name, or go with the actual common name which is Mary Smith. And all the variations. (like Mary Sue Smith) Again the trouble is that we don't know if there is any meaning behind Kyon using "John Smith" to answer Haruhi's question about his name "three years ago" with no prompting from anyone. Later, he would discover the power he held with "John Smith" but he didn't when he said it (Even young Haruhi called him on using such a name). If there is no meaning behind the name, it really doesn't matter what it is, just as long as it would seem like a logical English name for Kyonko to come up with to Haruki's random name question "three years ago" which Haruki will call her on just like Haruhi called Kyon on his choice. __________________

2012-04-15, 02:03	Link #23063
Sherby~ herp derp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Your computer monitor. Age: 29	I thought there was something official at some point about why Kyon chose "John Smith", like an interview or a character book or something. I forgot exactly what it was though. __________________ gaiaonline ● deviantart ● youtube ● fanfiction.net

2012-04-15, 02:12	Link #23064
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	But then again, a lot of these debates were more than "three years ago" __________________

2012-04-15, 02:36	Link #23066
DJ_RockmanX 性転換団長 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Socal Age: 34	Joan Smith. Sounds like John Smith. It was used a doujin or two. I'm good. __________________

2012-04-15, 03:40	Link #23067
dragon4dudes Uncountable rationality Join Date: May 2007 Location: Following the clouds North. Age: 31	I'm more on favor of a slightly more common given name. But seeing as is really doesn't matter right now, Joan Smith is good enough. __________________ Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. Douglas Adams Where facts are few, experts are many. Donald R. Gannon void foo() {foo();} // Can you guess what this line of code does?

2012-04-16, 09:41	Link #23068
Aerii Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeastern U.S. Age: 28	I've always been in support of Jane Doe. If a girl is randomly coming up with a pseudonym to refer to herself by, it's a lot more likely to be "Jane Doe" than "Joan Smith". Even though they're closer to "John", "Joan Smith" and "Jane Smith" just have too much thought put into it, imo. But if Joan Smith has already been used in a doujin, then sure, why not? ...And before you ask "Who the hell are you?", I'm just Aerii, a randomly appearing newb... [points at Join Date] Sort of. I joined and posted here, like, four years ago entirely because I liked your seitenkan project thing. Still do. You've halted the novel rewrites and started working on a doujin visual novel... right? orz. I'm a self-proclaimed artist and I actually know how to use Ren'Py with some proficiency so I might be able to help. I'll admit that I'm not the best at adapting my style though. (I'll also admit that I'm only just now in the process of reading Boredom...) EDIT: BTW, I looooved Aebliss's fanfic, The Setsubun of Suzumiya Haruki. I forgot to mention that. The whole thing was just really, really good. And I love Sherby's screencaps. And my weakness as an artist is lineart but I'm pretty good at coloring. Um. I think that's everything. Last edited by Aerii; 2012-04-16 at 15:23.

2012-04-16, 15:13	Link #23069
dragon4dudes Uncountable rationality Join Date: May 2007 Location: Following the clouds North. Age: 31	Holy $#@! an artist! __________________ Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. Douglas Adams Where facts are few, experts are many. Donald R. Gannon void foo() {foo();} // Can you guess what this line of code does?

2012-04-17, 00:03	Link #23070
Sherby~ herp derp Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Your computer monitor. Age: 29	Glad you like our stuff, Aerii! (And happy to know you like Jane Doe too. ) The VN project is on hiatus right now, but I've gotten Kaisos to continue with at least one chapter of Disappearance (hopefully). And yeah, we could always use more artists here. But, since the VN's at a standstill, at this point, I just do character designs and the caps. Is there anything in particular you'd be interested in drawing right now? __________________ gaiaonline ● deviantart ● youtube ● fanfiction.net

2012-04-17, 09:27	Link #23071
Aerii Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeastern U.S. Age: 28	I don't know, what do you guys need? orz. I kinda wanted to draw sprites. I can draw backgrounds a little (and I'm better at interiors than exteriors with that), but I prefer not to--it's the one thing I actually dislike drawing. But since the VN is on hiatus, I can't think of anything I could help with besides maybe doing illustrations for the novel or something...?

2012-04-18, 01:28	Link #23072
Nanao-kun ナナオーくん Join Date: May 2008 Age: 32	Glad to see this is still getting some attention. __________________

2012-04-18, 01:35	Link #23073
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Best bet is to find something (a scene maybe) and draw it. After one or two of those then someone will probably have an idea of what they would like you to do. __________________

2012-04-21, 21:44	Link #23076
Zmflavius Mr. Doctor Professor. Join Date: Apr 2012	I've just read through the story archives, and I have to say I'm really interested in doing some re-writes myself. I was wondering, are there any guidelines that I should probably adhere to? The FAQ was sort of vague, and kind of outdated, it seemed.

2012-04-22, 20:44	Link #23078
z-one Unknown Jedi Join Date: Apr 2012	I'm not sure that it is possible to make the entire genderblend anime from the orginal. But I think that it might be possible because I have seen some bit's of it on youtube.

2012-04-23, 18:23	Link #23079
Seitsuki Onee! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ	Oh wow, I thought this was just a discussion but it's an actual project! Or something. Could someone please give a quick rundown of what you guys are doing? __________________ thanks to Patchy ♥

2012-04-23, 18:28	Link #23080
bhl88 Otaku Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Unseen Horizon	Find the most common name? What about Jane or Elizabeth XD __________________ OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3