2011-07-16, 14:21 | Link #261 |
Blooming on the mountain
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Episode 2 was great ... sure they changed things around a little in terms of a strict adaptation of the manga, but I did not feel anything was "lost". 8/10 vote from me.
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2011-07-16, 14:58 | Link #262 |
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One thing I've noticed with shows like this, for some reason any time a little girl does seiyuu work (like Rin's VA) her voice is quite a bit lower than older seiyuus playing child roles.
Also, one thing I thought of while watching this, where did the pinky swear come from? Or at least the Japanese version? Listening to the swear (including the actual lines instead of Daikichi's screwup), I somehow got an image of Yakuza, the way that they apologize for breaking a trust of failing by cutting off the tip of the pinky.j That said, the show's adorable. I just hope that last scene wasn't all they were going to show of that part. Spoiler for the full matter:
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2011-07-16, 15:28 | Link #264 |
Blooming on the mountain
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If it is the said poster will be beaten to death and then burned alive and then kept on bread and water rations for 30 days? Seriously though ... yes, please. Although it was marked with spoiler tags it is prolly best to leave manga based spoilers out of the anime forum....
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2011-07-16, 17:21 | Link #265 | |
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2011-07-18, 04:23 | Link #269 |
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You could say that Rin's very calm and understanding way of thinking and treatment of Daikichi when he was late would be something rather unrealistic for her age. I for one just loved the characterization of Rin as both a kid who is still a kid at heart, but one who's experiences with having an old man as a father and cynical people as family has made her more mentally and emotionally developed and mature than her peers.
That face she tried to show when he arrived despite her joy? We have a little tsundere in the making here boys and girls. That whimsical glee she had when she was on Daikichi's shoulders running around reminded me of a specific scene between Tomoya and Ushio in Clannad AS, and watching it brought no greater amount of joy and smiles to my face. Daikichi is indeed a man amongst men. He's taking on a tremendous responsibility and you can't fault him for doing is very damn best for both of them. Fatherhood skills isn't something you learn overnight, and he's got a long road ahead of him. Thankfully Rin is one of those low-maintenance kids, lightening the burden on his shoulders a bit.
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2011-07-20, 15:20 | Link #272 | |||
Moving in circles
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Found an enlightening resource on nurseries (hoikuen) in Japan, set up independently by a foreigner who has apparently lived there for some time.
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2011-07-20, 15:40 | Link #273 |
One-Eyed Dragon
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Rin was so adorable from holding his hand to being angry at him when he came back late. Felt sorry for her that time, but Daikichi made it up to her. He really is a nice guy. I wonder how long he'll keep at it though. The ending was great, its sweat!
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2011-07-20, 16:22 | Link #274 | ||
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Consider: Do you think your average 30-year-old white-collar sales manager is a natural genius at giving perfect morally cutting speeches? No, of course not. Very, very few people are. If he stood up and started something like that, I would have started cringing immediately from the shear unbelievability of it. Further, this is family. A couple sisters, uncles, in-laws, his mom for crying out loud. Almost all of them should have a mile long blackmail list of all the things he's ever screwed up (including less tangible things like "you're 30 years old and still don't even have a girlfriend!"). If he stands up and starts making some pretty speech about their moral failings, they will shut him down hard. That's not to say that there's not plenty of motivation to want to tell them all off for their own selfishness, but there's no way in hell it would have ended up going well. Daikichi would just be starting a massive internal family squabble that would have made things worse. Plus, by tearing them down now, do you think he would have been able to call his sister for help in episode 2? She probably would have just brushed him off and told him to figure things out for himself, since he was obviously so much better than the rest of them. There's no reason to burn his bridges with them. And on the other, other, other hand, do you think Rin would have been happy to go with a man who just got into some screaming argument with the rest of his family? Would he have been as worthy of her trust? Or would she have felt that she was only being taken in due to some moral obligation, rather than that he actually cared about her? As TRL said, children are very sensitive to those types of things. The single most important thing for Daikichi to do in that scene was to show that he cared for Rin, and take her in. Taking moral pot shots at his family was way down the list, and could ultimately be considered counterproductive. Quote:
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2011-07-21, 02:50 | Link #275 | |||
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I've been very careful to stay away from manga spoilers, referring to the source material only after I've watched the anime. This thread, I'm afraid, is rife with spoiler minefields, revealing things which should have been better left untold. That said... Quote:
(It was already five past seven* on the first night when Daikichi attempted to leave his office before being held up by a late call from a client. It's implied that he didn't actually leave until around 9pm or 10pm — well past the bedtime of most young children, hence the groggy, tired Rin on every subsequent night that Daikichi picked her up.) There is a blogger out there in the ether who wondered why none of the staff at the nursery scolded Daikichi for being late, saying that it stretches the show's credibility. He or she may have a point, though I'd say it appears that Rin's nursery is just special that way. Based on what I've found online, such centres may, in fact, exist and are possibly very difficult to enrol into — and likely cost a lot more as well. EDIT: Quote:
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2011-07-21, 22:04 | Link #277 |
Cross Game - I need more
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I thought it was good they decided to address the worry Rin has about death.
Also, Daikichi has taken the plunge. I think it was the discussion about Rin's mother "the maid" that made it clear to him that Rin's mother is not coming back, so he better plan for the long haul.
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2011-07-21, 22:16 | Link #278 |
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I had to laugh when I saw that Daikichi's mother wants grandkids now, at least she has a few young children in the family to fill that role for the moment. I thought that the backstory about her being a working mother was interesting and it caught me by surprise yet it kinda explains why she was so hesitant to take Rin in.
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2011-07-21, 22:20 | Link #279 |
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I can't express how much I love this anime in a way that gives it justice. Daikichi, hot damn. I can only aspire to ever be half as good a parent as he is.
God I love this show. I just absolutely love this.
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2011-07-21, 22:37 | Link #280 | |
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He made a lot of good moves in this episode. Gave his sister and parents a few stern words which helped open things up. Of course Rin was going to be pretty solemn and quiet since this was the group that wanted nothing to do with her. Until they made the effort to open up to her she was just following Daikichi around and sticking to him like glue. Glad that Daikichi's mother really opened up and built a nice relationship with Rin. Lot easier I suppose to be a 'grandmother' than actually taking the child in permanently. Glad we got some background info on her and what she went through when raising her own kids. Glad Daikichi met someone who could give him perspective in what he probably felt was a necessary move. Moving to a different department will slow down his career movement, but it's necessary. Rin needs him to be around more which means no overtime. At least he won't have to be running like a madman and being so late every day to pick her up. He's a single parent now and that's just one sacrifice that has to be made for Rin's sake. Good move in terms of the wetting the bed issue. Getting to the heart of it was important and reassuring her that he isn't going to just die and leave her alone. Plus seems he found a new place for Rin. That's one less thing for him to figure out.
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