Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - Episode 1 Discussion / Poll

[Myssa Rei]

Please, no spoilers on just what rationale Londo Bell (which had, I imagine better Capital Ships in the Ra class) had in pulling the Nahel Argahma out of mothballs... Aside the capability to launch transformable MS. I'd like to be a little surprised in the future.

Which reminds me... I suppose Gundam Xi already happened at this point of the timeline?

[Kikuchi]

Not at all. You're talking about Hathaway's flash, right ? It is set in UC 0105 and thus happens 9 years after Unicorn.

[cf18]

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Which reminds me... I suppose Gundam Xi already happened at this point of the timeline?

No. CCA is 0093, Unicorn is 0096, Hathaway's Flash is 0093 + 12 = 0105.

[aeriolewinters]

No. CCA is 0093, Unicorn is 0096, Hathaway's Flash is 0093 + 12 = 0105.

So doesn't Unicorn make Xi-Gundam's design less plausible? I'm sure anaheim would've kept the Unicorn tech in case something like Xi shows up.

[Sir Dearka]

Originally Posted by winter45

Stargazer had so much potential in that department.. it was so upsetting for me that was just 15minute shorts... It could give CE more justice.. but from what ive heard the astray manga gave more justice in grunt abilities.

The trouble is that I find most SEED Astray characters quite unremarkable... Lowe and Gai, Kira clone and Le Creuset clone... bleh. I follow the Astray just for mecha designs as there is no story for me that is worth digging there for now.

Originally Posted by winter45

Soz mate.. i hope i didnt spoil anything then for you. But im certain youll enjoy the combat choreography.

The first seven minutes presented already gave me some idea what the movie looks like and it is astonishing. I really wish they made the whole reboot Zeta movies looked like that, not just chosen scenes ^^

[Scorch]

I'm impressed by the first episode and definitely looking forward to more. I like the old school character designs and immediately recognized "Audrey", having seen all of the other UC material. I loved the fight between the Kshatriya and the Stark Jegan - for being clearly outclassed, the Jegan really put up an impressive fight.

The Kshatriya really resembles a Quin Mantha for a MS developed 7 years later. The Geara Zulu resemblance to a Geara Doga is less surprising - I wonder if they're basically just reworked leftovers from CCA (like how the Dozle fleet modified their MS from the OYW).

Now if they would just animate Hathaway's Flash

[hai_san]

Originally Posted by Scorch

Now if they would just animate Hathaway's Flash

i dunno if i could take all the drama in this, since the ending is more than sad.

[Jazzrat]

Hmmm i wish this was an full blown series instead of an OVA. The quality of sound in it is wonderful (especially through a good headphone XD) especially when the fighting is going.

Being an UC idiot (only seen a few episodes) most of the historical reference is lost to me but didn't stop me from enjoying the show.

Like other have said, really love how the grunts aren't just kill count fodder.
Looking forward to seeing more of Marida and her Zaku which i like better than the Gundams, design wise.

[Scorch]

Originally Posted by Jazzrat

Like other have said, really love how the grunts aren't just kill count fodder.
Looking forward to seeing more of Marida and her Zaku which i like better than the Gundams, design wise.

Actually, that's a MS called Kshatriya. A Zaku I is this and a Zaku II is this. The Zaku II was the mainstay Zeon MS during the One Year War in 0079. Geara Zulus (what that grunt was piloting ~34 minutes into the episode) are obviously related to Geara Dogas (mainstay Neo-Zeon 2nd movement MS in Char's Counterattack), which are ultimately based on Zaku IIs.

The Kshatriya that Marida is using is much more similar to the Quin Mantha , a 1st Neo Zeon movement MS. It uses funnels which are psychically controlled and usable only to a Newtype. Newtypes are fairly rare, so they tend to get custom/prototype MS with Newtype weapons. A non-Newtype would be unable to control the funnels of the Kshatriya.

[JackRydden224]

Originally Posted by midnightlumina

So doesn't Unicorn make Xi-Gundam's design less plausible? I'm sure anaheim would've kept the Unicorn tech in case something like Xi shows up.

Xi and Penelope were mostly (if not exclusively) used on Earth during the rebellion. Their biggest advantage was full flight capability at a very high speed, something Unicorn cannot do on earth. The NTD kicks ass but ain't going to do much good when your target is flying with the clouds :P

[Kikuchi]

Originally Posted by midnightlumina

So doesn't Unicorn make Xi-Gundam's design less plausible? I'm sure anaheim would've kept the Unicorn tech in case something like Xi shows up.

Yeah, but do we really take Hathaway's Flash events as canon?
I don't think any Tomino's novel is, actually?

[MakubeX2]

Originally Posted by Kikuchi

Yeah, but do we really take Hathaway's Flash events as canon?
I don't think any Tomino's novel is, actually?

Bandai has already acknowledged the novels as canon by featuring the characters and mechs in quite a number of games.

[Zu Ra]

Have procured this and got a Q before watching .

Is this really episodic ? or can this be watched as a stand alone . I hate discontinuity and waiting, tend to watch episodic stuff clubbed together . I have my hands full at the moment so needed to know ...

[Deacon Blues]

Originally Posted by MakubeX2

Bandai has already acknowledged the novels as canon by featuring the characters and mechs in quite a number of games.

Bandai isn't in charge of officiating things. Sunrise states that only animated works (series/movies) are considered official. Therefore novels and games are not official by those standards.

[MakubeX2]

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

Bandai isn't in charge of officiating things. Sunrise states that only animated works (series/movies) are considered official. Therefore novels and games are not official by those standards.

By that argument, Blue Destiny, Gundam Sentinel and Crossbone amongst various others are not canon since they never see any form of animation.

Moreover, Bandai is considered as Sunrise's boss and whose words would you rather believe ?

[Deacon Blues]

No, you've got it all backwards. Sunrise is considered the boss of Bandai. And yes, by that definition nothing that isn't animated is "unofficial".

Originally Posted by toysdream

In the first installment, Sunrise's Shigeru Horiguchi lays down a simple guideline: "If it's filmed, it's official." It seems that Sunrise classifies the existing Gundam material into three categories: white (official), black (false), and gray (everything in between). Even material produced under Sunrise supervision isn't considered official until it's appeared in filmed form.

See the discussion here.

[Kikuchi]

It's interesting to see that by this definition, things like Ecole du Ciel or Crossbone Gundam aren't official and could just be retconnned any time. We know it won't happen, but still, it's something that never even crossed my mind.

But I totally understand why they're doing things.

[MakubeX2]

Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

No, you've got it all backwards. Sunrise is considered the boss of Bandai. And yes, by that definition nothing that isn't animated is "unofficial".

Since they say likewise, there's no use arguing here.

However, I like to point out that Bandai owns over 90% of shares in Sunrise. And I believe that's the main reason Sunrise is letting Bandai having their way with the continuity.

[X_Danny_X]

eh? there is another season of Gundam out? called Unicorn?

[winter45]

Originally Posted by X_Danny_X

eh? there is another season of Gundam out? called Unicorn?

No, its just an OVA 6 episodes in total.. running approx 3 years... someone else can correct me if my info is wrong.