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Derelict · 2004-11-09, 21:05

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Originally Posted by sarcasteak

It was great when Kira owned Yzak, but everything before then was like this:

Kira fires at Athrun. Misses. Moves 10 clicks backwards and raises shield. Ends turn.
Athrun fires at Kira. Blocked. Moves 5 clicks sidesways and calls out Kira's name. Ends turn.
Kira fires at back. Misses. Kira says "Athrun..." with a sad face. Ends turn.
Yzak says "AHhhhh!!!" and fires at Kira. Misses. Moves 45 clicks foreward and engages in beam saber combat. Ends turn.
Kira blocks Yzak. Moves 20 clicks backwards and hides behind Archangel's cover fire while firing at Athrun. Misses. Ends turn.
Athrun fires at Kira. Misses. Ends turn.

*somewhere else on the battlefield*
Mwu fires at Deakka. Misses Moves 20 clicks forward. Ends turn.
Deakka fires at Mwu. Misses. Deakka combines his cannons and fires. Misses. Ends turn.

I forgot what Nicole was doing the whole time...I think his responsibility was to keep the Archangel busy.

Due to most of the battles consisting of Kira being largely outnumbered and the ArchAngel being useless against the four enemy Gundams, also Kira was not really prepared to actually destroy one of them, not to mention he was thrusted against them without any previous battle experience could contribute to the fact that he rarely drawed any damage against them.

However, the choreography was still impressive.

DwArD · 2004-11-09, 23:07

Yep. The fighting scenes in Seed was nice, before Kira got his hands on Freedom. No matter how much I like about Freedom, I still find it sort of.....cheating. Able to aim and shoot at so many MS at a time seems a little too.....powerful. I actually prefer the fighting scenes when Kira was piloting Strike. He's still an amatuer at that time, and it sort of creates a tension.

Wolfslord · 2004-11-10, 07:53

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Yep. The fighting scenes in Seed was nice, before Kira got his hands on Freedom. No matter how much I like about Freedom, I still find it sort of.....cheating. Able to aim and shoot at so many MS at a time seems a little too.....powerful. I actually prefer the fighting scenes when Kira was piloting Strike. He's still an amatuer at that time, and it sort of creates a tension.

Indeed.Especially the fights in the desert against the Bacows were just cool.
Ok the fights between normal Suits and Freedom were somekind of boring,but the fights against Providence/Forbidden/Raider/Calamity had imo a lot more tension then nearly all battles before.

dreamless · 2004-11-10, 08:11

Hmm... personally I think Kira fighting against Forbidden/Raider/Calamity just shows that he doesn't know anything about battle tactics, he's just using the raw power of Freedom to shoot shoot shoot and when it doesn't work, he just shoots more, which of course doesn't work any better than before. Kira fighting against Providence has some nice actions, however the conversations are pathetic, it's basically Kira getting lectured by Krueze and moaning and groaning and could not come up with any retort

sarcasteak · 2004-11-10, 09:04

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Originally Posted by Wolfslord

Indeed.Especially the fights in the desert against the Bacows were just cool.

I never liked the Bacows, but I definitely agree that Kira's fights against them were probably the best choreographed in Seed.

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Originally Posted by dreamless

Hmm... personally I think Kira fighting against Forbidden/Raider/Calamity just shows that he doesn't know anything about battle tactics, he's just using the raw power of Freedom to shoot shoot shoot and when it doesn't work, he just shoots more, which of course doesn't work any better than before. Kira fighting against Providence has some nice actions, however the conversations are pathetic, it's basically Kira getting lectured by Krueze and moaning and groaning and could not come up with any retort

The battles at Orb in which Kira and Athrun fought against the druggie trio for the first two times were pretty darn good (except the part when Forbidden was shot point-blank by Freedom yet didn't receive any damage...which pretty much hints that the druggie trios are not going to die until the very end). Once they left for space, however, the skirmishes pretty much resembled what happened in the first arc, just with MORE BEAM RIFLES MORE YELLING AND MORE RECYCLED FRAMES.

Once Kira and Athrun got access to the METEOR system, though, it was sweet ass-whooping once again.

Derelict · 2004-11-10, 09:31

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Originally Posted by dreamless

Hmm... personally I think Kira fighting against Forbidden/Raider/Calamity just shows that he doesn't know anything about battle tactics, he's just using the raw power of Freedom to shoot shoot shoot and when it doesn't work, he just shoots more, which of course doesn't work any better than before. Kira fighting against Providence has some nice actions, however the conversations are pathetic, it's basically Kira getting lectured by Krueze and moaning and groaning and could not come up with any retort

Killing him is a good retort.

dreamless · 2004-11-10, 09:51

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Originally Posted by Derelict

Killing him is a good retort.

that sounds like Blue Cosmos

Derelict · 2004-11-10, 10:23

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Originally Posted by dreamless

that sounds like Blue Cosmos

Minus the fact that Rau probably wanted action, not words.

brightman · 2004-11-10, 10:31

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Originally Posted by sarcasteak

(except the part when Forbidden was shot point-blank by Freedom yet didn't receive any damage...

That's because Freedom fired its railguns at it, which are negated by Phase Shift.

Derelict · 2004-11-10, 10:36

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Originally Posted by brightman

That's because Freedom fired its railguns at it, which are negated by Phase Shift.

The first few fights when the druggies were disorganized/firing on each other most likely would have been the greatest chance for Kira to defeat them, but of course, they needed them for the plot until the end.

sarcasteak · 2004-11-10, 10:50

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Originally Posted by brightman

That's because Freedom fired its railguns at it, which are negated by Phase Shift.

Even at point blank?

But okay, that'd explain why Kira didn't do his "shoot everybody down" stuff when fighting the druggies.

Oh yah, I remember now...the railgun shots were yellow. -___-;;;

Keppers · 2004-11-10, 11:46

Hmmm I thought Gaia running in zero grav was kinda cool and not funny at all, but I guess I just assumed that some kind of thrusters or something were being used to push it against the panels to make its own gravity until it was time to jump. Seemed more like good piloting at the time. *shrug*

Pabst · 2004-11-10, 16:06

Even if there were thrusters pushing Stellar down towards it, the platform (or whatever) the Gundam was running on would be pushed in the opposite direction anyway...

Just a blatant disregard for physics... but hey, its a cartoon, whatever.

FlyByNite · 2004-11-10, 16:26

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Even if there were thrusters pushing Stellar down towards it, the platform (or whatever) the Gundam was running on would be pushed in the opposite direction anyway...

Just a blatant disregard for physics... but hey, its a cartoon, whatever.

Stellar's Gaia must have been going through the same gravity in the gundam universe that lets them walk through the halls on the ship and then jump up and float through the ship whenever they feel like it too. It's either one or the other...

Not to mention how the hair should be reacting in zero-g too...but hey...

katon · 2004-11-10, 17:48

Awesome episode. Battle between the two ships were pretty amazing. Captain showing us their skillz, lol, except when Athrun saved Minerva's ass. Whoohoo, looks like next ep we'll see Athrun back in action, and more ppl reappearing!

wao · 2004-11-11, 05:31

About the hair in zero-g... don't they use hair-spray or something?

tatsit · 2004-11-11, 05:34

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About the hair in zero-g... don't they use hair-spray or something?

Cool... Is kira using gatsby?

wao · 2004-11-11, 07:08

Oh my god. Stop giving me bad images.

If you're happy and you know it clap your Gundam...

This is begging to be photoshopped. I need to find a pic of those hilarious Gatsby ads.

tatsit · 2004-11-11, 09:11

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Oh my god. Stop giving me bad images.

If you're happy and you know it clap your Gundam...

This is begging to be photoshopped. I need to find a pic of those hilarious Gatsby ads.

Lol.. Please do.. I'm waiting to laugh..

Colonel- · 2004-11-11, 16:50

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Originally Posted by FlyByNite

Stellar's Gaia must have been going through the same gravity in the gundam universe that lets them walk through the halls on the ship and then jump up and float through the ship whenever they feel like it too. It's either one or the other...

Not to mention how the hair should be reacting in zero-g too...but hey...

Notice that the section os the ship where they were floating around in is different compared to the section where there's gravity. =) In the gravity halls, the halls are curved while as the other non-gravity influenced areas are flat. ZAFT's got some hi-tech ships after all =P

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DwArD mAnIaC Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Somewhere In This World Age: 35	Yep. The fighting scenes in Seed was nice, before Kira got his hands on Freedom. No matter how much I like about Freedom, I still find it sort of.....cheating. Able to aim and shoot at so many MS at a time seems a little too.....powerful. I actually prefer the fighting scenes when Kira was piloting Strike. He's still an amatuer at that time, and it sort of creates a tension. __________________ If man does find the solution for world peace it will be the most revolutionary reversal of his record we have ever known. George C. Marshall (1880 - 1959)

2004-11-10, 17:48	Link #175
katon Some random dude Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada	Awesome episode. Battle between the two ships were pretty amazing. Captain showing us their skillz, lol, except when Athrun saved Minerva's ass. Whoohoo, looks like next ep we'll see Athrun back in action, and more ppl reappearing! __________________ Lost in Life. __________________

2004-11-11, 05:31	Link #176
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	About the hair in zero-g... don't they use hair-spray or something? __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-11-11, 07:08	Link #178
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	Oh my god. Stop giving me bad images. If you're happy and you know it clap your Gundam... This is begging to be photoshopped. I need to find a pic of those hilarious Gatsby ads. __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-11-10, 08:11	Link #164
dreamless /Ultimate Magic Attack!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Time Warp/Future	Hmm... personally I think Kira fighting against Forbidden/Raider/Calamity just shows that he doesn't know anything about battle tactics, he's just using the raw power of Freedom to shoot shoot shoot and when it doesn't work, he just shoots more, which of course doesn't work any better than before. Kira fighting against Providence has some nice actions, however the conversations are pathetic, it's basically Kira getting lectured by Krueze and moaning and groaning and could not come up with any retort

2004-11-10, 11:46	Link #172
Keppers Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Hmmm I thought Gaia running in zero grav was kinda cool and not funny at all, but I guess I just assumed that some kind of thrusters or something were being used to push it against the panels to make its own gravity until it was time to jump. Seemed more like good piloting at the time. shrug

2004-11-10, 16:06	Link #173
Pabst The Blue Ribbon Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Radford, VA Age: 40	Even if there were thrusters pushing Stellar down towards it, the platform (or whatever) the Gundam was running on would be pushed in the opposite direction anyway... Just a blatant disregard for physics... but hey, its a cartoon, whatever.