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Old 2012-07-23, 06:58   Link #1981
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No one knows for definite what kind of power one may get from killing a god. Even though Salvatore Doni killed Hephaestus, he didn't get the ability to craft superpower or technologically advanced weapons. Instead, he got an ability that is pretty useless combat-wise --the power to disable technology higher than those from the middle ages for one day. If Godou did kill Athena, he may get the power to petrify others instead.
So basically killing a god is like open a kinder suprise, you don't know what authority you get until actually you kill it.
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Old 2012-07-23, 07:03   Link #1982
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no
wisdom is not all powerful in greek mythology
acquiring it not guaranteed making someone invincible
maybe wisdom doesn't make someone invisible but if godou can use the wisdom for making gold sword!
so godou can kill gods and other campione more and more easily than ever!
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Old 2012-07-23, 07:19   Link #1983
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If he 1 or more authority from a god it will have a very strict restriction before activation just like all of his 10 forms...
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Old 2012-07-23, 07:23   Link #1984
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@fazri: Reaching to the omniscient level is not a good term in novel, MC will become too imba, so I guess it can not happen here.
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Old 2012-07-23, 07:41   Link #1985
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Read the afterword of vol3 and must say, that was a huge spoiler he gave about John Pluto Smith, though does he make good on his words or did he change John a little??
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Old 2012-07-23, 07:53   Link #1986
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If he 1 or more authority from a god it will have a very strict restriction before activation just like all of his 10 forms...
Not necessarily. The Black Prince, Salvatore Doni, Voban and Lao Hao all seem to control their abilities normally. Godou and JPS are the only ones mentioned to have limitations.
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Old 2012-07-23, 08:01   Link #1987
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I think what he meant was, if you received the authority from a god with more then 1 abilities such as Verethragna, there be restriction from using the abilities, but if you received the authority from a god with just ability then there won't be any or won't be as restricted.
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Old 2012-07-23, 08:18   Link #1988
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I think what he meant was, if you received the authority from a god with more then 1 abilities such as Verethragna, there be restriction from using the abilities, but if you received the authority from a god with just ability then there won't be any or won't be as restricted.
Again, not necessarily. JPS has killed several gods, but one of her authorities,
Spoiler for hey:

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Old 2012-07-23, 08:33   Link #1989
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no
is not works thatt way.
jupiter are ruler not because of his wisdom

no, golden sword is fluke
i doubt verthegrana losing if he serious and i think he was bored and testing him
his victory FLUKE should not meant to happen.

godou is lucky having titan tablet , erica, injury,melqart, stallion etc

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Old 2012-07-23, 08:36   Link #1990
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A lost is still a lost though. Even Godou admitted that he was betting on a miracle in vol 3. Not to mention that Vere-chan was injured too during that fight...

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Old 2012-07-23, 08:38   Link #1991
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@ darthfanta, I see then do you think once you fully mastered the gods authority then the restriction from using the abilities would lessen?
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Old 2012-07-23, 08:42   Link #1992
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@ darthfanta, I see then do you think once you fully mastered the gods authority then the restriction from using the abilities would lessen?
No, JPS got one of her authorities from Tezcatlipoca from her early teens, but may not use it unless she provides a sacrifice.Note, the sacrifice listed in Kadi's explanation is only applicable for the jaguar form.As for details on JPS' authority,Kadi's got a better description:

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Old 2012-07-23, 08:53   Link #1993
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too little explaination..
why ram not activated etc
im not interested enough but seems not normal
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Old 2012-07-23, 09:29   Link #1994
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no
wisdom is not all powerful in greek mythology
acquiring it not guaranteed making someone invincible
Just wanted to say that Greece's capital is Athens.
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Old 2012-07-23, 09:33   Link #1995
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Just wanted to say that Greece's capital is Athens.
That's only because Constantinople fell to the Turks....
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Old 2012-07-23, 09:46   Link #1996
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That's only because Constantinople fell to the Turks....
'kay, but still, Athens was still strong before the Roman era with great reformers such as Cleisthenes, Ephilates and Pericles. And were a major power.
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Old 2012-07-23, 09:51   Link #1997
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no
is not works thatt way.
jupiter are ruler not because of his wisdom

no, golden sword is fluke
i doubt verthegrana losing if he serious and i think he was bored and testing him
his victory FLUKE should not meant to happen.

godou is lucky having titan tablet , erica, injury,melqart, stallion etc
What do u mean fluke? Godou never killed Verethragna using [sword]
and again Verethragna was serious wounded..fighting two gods and duel weilding [sword].
And again Erica is injured and left behind, Melqart have lost and run away...
So it was basically just Godou and V-tan, and both of them killed each other i guess.

And i think V-tan ram doesn't work cos he want to lose? or Stallion burned v-tan to nothing.
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Old 2012-07-23, 10:04   Link #1998
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^^You know ^^

There's no way a human can defeat god. That's why it's a fluke campione becomes ones. Miracles pon miracles, regardless of how cliché it is.

The MC would never become a campione if not for Verethragna being totally overconfident, Melquart, the stone and umm Erica.

Erica, might already died when she faced Verethragna if Verethragna didn't let she go because Goudo is there.

Without Erica, Goudo would never become a campione. But Erica without Goudo, long dead before even hope of becoming one...
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Old 2012-07-23, 10:09   Link #1999
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It's like trying to beat the lvl 100 final boss by making him fall in a nail trap while hoping that he'd lose all of its HP by standing up and lose HPs again.
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Old 2012-07-23, 10:23   Link #2000
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oh i was not denying it was not a fluke.
I understand it was a fluke and a miracle.
I was just pointing out the differences cos what he said seem like come from the anime and bug me.
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