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Kafriel · 2016-10-17, 10:43

It's totally normal IMO. Yes, Erza is an inhuman monster, but she is up against absolute magic on both ends - her hands are not made of vibranium, ya know!

...that being said, who's to stop Wendy from healing her up in a single panel?

immblueversion · 2016-10-17, 11:16

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I suppose so, well maybe the next chapter will answer this.

Oh, I think we can expect Lucy and/or Juvia to show up. I also believe Erza's scolding, plus the sight of Lucy safe and sound, will likely help calm Natsu down (it's even more likely Gray's reunion with Juvia will bring him back to his senses), but I doubt E.N.D. will be taken completely out of the picture. Perhaps this will be a temporary period of calm for Natsu, or perhaps he will be more in control of his demonic powers. That's what I'll be waiting to see.

Sixth · 2016-10-17, 11:28

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Well more like this seems to be handling why Erza won't be doing anything else this battle. Considering blocking those attacks just utterly wrecked her arms. I know catching these attacks was dramatic...but come on Erza use your brain a little bit. This is what happens when she's constantly told the reasons she wins fights is "such is Erza" she starts thinking she's invincible!

But she is the Invincible Erza. She is going to clown Eileen soon.

Saravis4 · 2016-10-17, 14:44

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Well more like this seems to be handling why Erza won't be doing anything else this battle. Considering blocking those attacks just utterly wrecked her arms.

Heh, are we talking about the same Erza here? The same Erza who fought perfectly fine, despite having none of her senses. The same Erza who has repeatedly beaten her opponents in a state of "near death". Her injuries are but flesh wounds, she could have all of her limbs dismembered and still win.

Erza BS aside, what was the point of Natsu v. Grey? This fight has been anticipated since Natsu was revealed to be END, it was nonsensically rushed, and now it seems to have concluded. They threw a few attacks at each other and nothing more, nothing was gained or lost. The fight was completely pointless. Perhaps, they'll resume under different conditions later, but it still doesn't change how poorly this fight was handled.

I swear to God though, if Makarov comes back after all that, I'm quiting...ok probably not, but I'll probably type up another bitch post...ok I probably won't even muster up the care to do that, but I will facepalm very hard.

Rising Dragon · 2016-10-17, 14:45

Too early to say that the E.N.D. fight is over. After all, not every battle is won through physical might.

Kuroi Hadou · 2016-10-17, 14:58

It's nice to see a return to the old dynamic of Erza stopping Natsu and Grey from beating each other silly.

Rising Dragon · 2016-10-17, 14:59

Erza: I don't care who started it, I'm finishing it!

Kafriel · 2016-10-17, 23:25

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Erza BS aside, what was the point of Natsu v. Grey?

It mostly served as a display of Grey's DeS power (and ingenuity) vs Natsu's raw power and gung-ho approach. 100% filler to the plot from all points, but at least nice to follow.

Sixth · 2016-10-17, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Kafriel

It mostly served as a display of Grey's DeS power (and ingenuity) vs Natsu's raw power and gung-ho approach. 100% filler to the plot from all points, but at least nice to follow.

and the next thing we will see Natsu and Gray were magically forgot all their prowess and struggling against the 12 in next chapter.

Kafriel · 2016-10-17, 23:45

People get amazingly stupid and forgetful in the middle of battles...especially the strong ones :P

~Yami~ · 2016-10-18, 00:22

it's almost become Naruto vs Sasuke again before Erza stepped in in badass way

I appreciated Laxus and Erza, as S-class mages, to step up after Makarov's death
Mira and Gildartz need to show something now..

ChuckE · 2016-10-18, 09:27

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

it's almost become Naruto vs Sasuke again before Erza stepped in in badass way

I appreciated Laxus and Erza, as S-class mages, to step up after Makarov's death
Mira and Gildartz need to show something now..

Is that grading into classes relevant anymore?

Krono · 2016-10-18, 11:18

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Originally Posted by ChuckE

Is that grading into classes relevant anymore?

It hasn't really been relevant for a while in terms of power. Gildarts has been confirmed to have been so far above the others that even the Tartaros arc versions of Laxus and Erza would be fodder to him. Mirajane's clearly continued to lag well behind Laxus and Erza in strength, closer to Natsu, Gray, Gajeel, and Elfman for most of the series, and is now likely behind all of them with the possible exception of Elfman. And in general, a whole punch of people qualified as S-class in terms of power back in the GMG arc. By this point even Lucy is likely as strong as Erza was in the beginning of the series. At minimum.

Other than power though, the S-class wizards were kind of leaders within the guild. They were privy to some things that weren't known to the rest of the guild, though at this point all secrets are probably out. So it makes sense that with Makarov gone, they'd be the ones to step up and take charge, and one of them would be the one to succeed him as guild master.

Ultragunner · 2016-10-20, 03:21

Hm... May I ask some simple and common sense questions? Shouldn't self-sacrifice be the last resort method? Shouldn't Makarov listen to Mavis' plan first THEN sacrifice himself? He was like "there might be a strategy where everyone make it out alive, but I'm gonna sacrifice myself anyway"...

And where the heck is your respect, Makarov? You just keep saying "Guild this, Guild that", or "my children!!", but ain't Mavis the founder of your guild? Ain't she essentially your elder?

So many questions...yet so few answers...

#sarcasm

B214 · 2016-10-20, 03:46

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Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Hm... May I ask some simple and common sense questions? Shouldn't self-sacrifice be the last resort method? Shouldn't Makarov listen to Mavis' plan first THEN sacrifice himself? He was like "there might be a strategy where everyone make it out alive, but I'm gonna sacrifice myself anyway"...

And where the heck is your respect, Makarov? You just keep saying "Guild this, Guild that", or "my children!!", but ain't Mavis the founder of your guild? Ain't she essentially your elder?

So many questions...yet so few answers...

#sarcasm

Well no matter how good Mavis' plan is it's still an uncertain one. They still have to face that giant army & the remaining Spriggan. Even if Mavis' plan pull them through with the army how are they suppose to deal with the remaining Spriggan like Irene or August? That would mean they have to beat the enemy army without getting injured or too fatigue. That's clearly impossible at this point. They were already cornered badly already. At least now Makarov manage to take out 60-70% of the troops. That's much better than having to fight those 60-70% too.

#replyfornorealreason.

Kafriel · 2016-10-20, 04:30

It was a moment of weakness for Makarov, he gave in to his emotions and did what he wanted.

Sixth · 2016-10-20, 05:54

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Originally Posted by Ultragunner

Hm... May I ask some simple and common sense questions? Shouldn't self-sacrifice be the last resort method? Shouldn't Makarov listen to Mavis' plan first THEN sacrifice himself? He was like "there might be a strategy where everyone make it out alive, but I'm gonna sacrifice myself anyway"...

And where the heck is your respect, Makarov? You just keep saying "Guild this, Guild that", or "my children!!", but ain't Mavis the founder of your guild? Ain't she essentially your elder?

So many questions...yet so few answers...

#sarcasm

All you need to know is Makarov sacrificed himself to kill fodders and Mashima wants us to think Makarov's sacrifice is badass.

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Nah, Mashima is probably don't know what he should do with Makarov at this moment.

Just as someone said before, Makarov should have died at Tenrou Island. At least he would have die with a dignity and left a great impression to the readers. Now? It is comical for me.

B214 · 2016-10-20, 06:25

^Please the Spriggan 12 couldn't even beat much less kill fodders from FT. Makarov already boss all the 12 + Zeref in 1 chapter already.

Ravagerblade · 2016-10-20, 11:00

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Originally Posted by Sixth

All you need to know is Makarov sacrificed himself to kill fodders and Mashima wants us to think Makarov's sacrifice is badass.

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Nah, Mashima is probably don't know what he should do with Makarov at this moment.

Just as someone said before, Makarov should have died at Tenrou Island. At least he would have die with a dignity and left a great impression to the readers. Now? It is comical for me.

Nah it's become a gag now, I don't want it to go away.
Makarov will just complain WHy WHy won't I just die! lol Makarov been a death seeker for along time now.

thedonkiluminati · 2016-10-21, 23:15

Spoiler for Fairy Tail 507 spoiler:

2016-10-17, 14:45	Link #16305
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Too early to say that the E.N.D. fight is over. After all, not every battle is won through physical might. __________________

2016-10-17, 14:58	Link #16306
Kuroi Hadou Dark Energy Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: United States	It's nice to see a return to the old dynamic of Erza stopping Natsu and Grey from beating each other silly. __________________

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Erza: I don't care who started it, I'm finishing it! __________________

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Ultragunner Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Hm... May I ask some simple and common sense questions? Shouldn't self-sacrifice be the last resort method? Shouldn't Makarov listen to Mavis' plan first THEN sacrifice himself? He was like "there might be a strategy where everyone make it out alive, but I'm gonna sacrifice myself anyway"... And where the heck is your respect, Makarov? You just keep saying "Guild this, Guild that", or "my children!!", but ain't Mavis the founder of your guild? Ain't she essentially your elder? So many questions...yet so few answers... #sarcasm __________________

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Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	It's totally normal IMO. Yes, Erza is an inhuman monster, but she is up against absolute magic on both ends - her hands are not made of vibranium, ya know! ...that being said, who's to stop Wendy from healing her up in a single panel?

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Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	People get amazingly stupid and forgetful in the middle of battles...especially the strong ones :P

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~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	it's almost become Naruto vs Sasuke again before Erza stepped in in badass way I appreciated Laxus and Erza, as S-class mages, to step up after Makarov's death Mira and Gildartz need to show something now..

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Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	It was a moment of weakness for Makarov, he gave in to his emotions and did what he wanted.

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B214 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	^Please the Spriggan 12 couldn't even beat much less kill fodders from FT. Makarov already boss all the 12 + Zeref in 1 chapter already.