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Starks · 2006-02-18, 02:17

Guys... The time has come!

Take your pick, it won't hurt.
Mai-Battle
Dance Battle
Battle Dance
Performance
Martial Battle

(poll is at doremi website)

NoSanninWa · 2006-02-18, 02:21

Whatever happened to your oath that you're going to stick with "Mai-Battle" regardless of criticism?

Before I make my decision, can you please post something about the Japanese term that was used. Even if it is a made-up word, there are clues that a native speaker would use to interpret it. Can you (or your translator) please tell us what cues exist? Walk us through it, so that an intelligent response can be made.

Otherwise, I might as well throw darts at a board.

bdonlan · 2006-02-18, 02:27

The word is 'butou' - 舞踏. nihongoresources turns up:

舞踏 [ぶとう] [butou] - (n) dancing.
舞蹈 [ぶとう] [butou] - (n) dancing.

But it's used to refer to, well, a battle. It could be another of Sunrise's multilingual puns - 'butou' sounds a lot like 'battle'. Anyway, lad back in one of the early eps did some crazy conflagaration and came up with mai-battle, given that the reading of the kanji 舞 (dance) is 'mai'.

Starks · 2006-02-18, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdonlan

The word is 'butou' - 舞踏. nihongoresources turns up:

舞踏 [ぶとう] [butou] - (n) dancing.
舞蹈 [ぶとう] [butou] - (n) dancing.

But it's used to refer to, well, a battle. It could be another of Sunrise's multilingual puns - 'butou' sounds a lot like 'battle'. Anyway, lad back in one of the early eps did some crazy conflagaration and came up with mai-battle, given that the reading of the kanji 舞 (dance) is 'mai'.

Episode 2 to be exact...

Yayoi made a drawing of the kanji in the sand.

ladholyman · 2006-02-18, 02:34

Lordy, I do stick by Mai-battle whole-heartedly. It's just that there are a "few" people, wink wink nudge nudge, *cough Starks* that wants me to change, and they have bugged me long enough. Since I am a fan of democracy, and I love polls, here you go.

Anyways, here are a few arguments FOR Mai-battle.

In episode 2, Yayoi scribbled on the ground.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6...ibattle0oz.jpg

The first kanji is Mai, so I left it. The second kanji is Tou, which means battle. Therefore, Mai-Battle. Dancing just sounds too voodoo to me.

The Chinese subs translate it literally as a "Dance Battle."

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6528/butou3bg.jpg

But since that does sound pretty voodoo, I like it as Mai-Battle. Yes, it's a "half-hearted" translation, and yes, Static translated it as "performance." However, I had to change every previous assumption I ever made, from Mai-Star to Aswald to Shibaratsu. I will not falter in Mai-Battle.

Whatever. Vote.

Lost · 2006-02-18, 03:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starks

Guys... The time has come!

Take your pick, it won't hurt.
Mai-Battle
Dance Battle
Battle Dance
Performance
Martial Battle

(poll is at doremi website)

Mai-Battle for me please. To me that sounds the most fitting, it actually gives it a name, and makes one think of Mai, the ultimate a**-kicker in battle. The rest are just descriptives, and they're all too.. bland.. dull...

Thanks, guys.

*goes to the poll* (p.s. as for accuracy of the term, I'm afraid I have no idea on that. )

Timeless Enigma · 2006-02-18, 04:17

Out of the options given:

Mai-Battle
Dance Battle
Battle Dance
Performance
Martial Battle

I would go for the dancing battle phrases

Battle Dance
Dance Battle (reminds me of Tekken for some reason... maybe it's because of "Tag Battle!")

or
Performance

In some episodes an Otome's fight has been described as a beautiful dance (or maybe I was just imagining it) so I think these choices fit that idea well.

The dancing battle options are shown to make literal sense in the manga (they battle to music and there seems to be a rhythm).

Takemi_Ikazuchi · 2006-02-18, 04:23

Go with my very first suggestion (which everyone probably have forgotten by now

)

Martial Dance

or

Dance of War

Meliavor · 2006-02-18, 04:23

I too prefer the term 'Mai-Battle' mostly because its more of a term than the direct translations of the kanji.

djmaca · 2006-02-18, 04:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starks

Guys... The time has come!

Take your pick, it won't hurt.
Mai-Battle
Dance Battle
Battle Dance
Performance
Martial Battle

(poll is at doremi website)

Performance...

monster · 2006-02-18, 05:15

I voted for perfomance in the poll but I'm okay with Mai-battle.

felix · 2006-02-18, 05:24

I'll go for Mai-Battle because it reminds me of Mai.

IMO it should be just "battle" ....

Tremalkinger · 2006-02-18, 05:43

Why exactly does it need to be translated? There is nothing in the English language that represents what the word means, so just put down the literal romanization (butou*), along with a note up at the top the first time its used in episodes to explain the meaning (*Butou is a battle between Otome).

If that's not a possibility, for whatever reason, stick with Mai Battle.

IchiKyo · 2006-02-18, 05:49

"Mai-Battle"
Just For Fight And Perfomance

Ichy · 2006-02-18, 06:37

[X] Mai-battle

Kleo Scanti · 2006-02-18, 07:23

Mai-Battle. Just because I'm used to it.

Tempest35 · 2006-02-18, 07:35

Feh, just stick with Mai-Battle. It has that 'original' quality to it. The way I see it, your translations are closer to what the origianl Japanese are saying and Static's subs have the 'Americanized' scripts.

I like it that way so stick with Mai-Battle please

If they don't know what it means by now....:P:P:P Besides, we need at least one 'Mai' in this show since they won't reveal the real one any time soon...

Sian · 2006-02-18, 08:20

going for Mai-Battle as well ...

or ... maybe Battle Dance aren't that bad

... that would imo be the secondbest choice ...

Lost · 2006-02-18, 08:20

If I may add something else, the term Mai-Battle has a distinctive ceremonious feel to it. At least, that was the sense of the word I got when I first heard it, as if it was a ritual being done in Honour of the great Mai.

But, that can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it. Good, because it gives the whole fight a nice ceremonious, ancient, ring. Bad, because WTH does Mai have to do with the History of Garderobe? Then again, we never know, she may be one of the original founders or pillars?

omegastar · 2006-02-18, 08:53

Mai-Battle

Performance

Either one of those, although I would stick to Performance. One worders are usually better, and in the case of Otome it's not a weird term... plus it closely relates to what Otomes are supposed to do, right?

View Poll Results: Take your pick. Which should it be?
Mai-Battle	25	60.98%
Dance Battle	2	4.88%
Battle Dance	2	4.88%
Performance	9	21.95%
Martial Battle	1	2.44%
Dance	2	4.88%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

2006-02-18, 02:17	Link #1
Starks I see what you did there! Scanlator Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 36	Take your pick, it won't hurt. Doremi needs your input. Guys... The time has come! Take your pick, it won't hurt. Mai-Battle Dance Battle Battle Dance Performance Martial Battle (poll is at doremi website) __________________ My list of garbage anime

2006-02-18, 02:21	Link #2
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	Whatever happened to your oath that you're going to stick with "Mai-Battle" regardless of criticism? Before I make my decision, can you please post something about the Japanese term that was used. Even if it is a made-up word, there are clues that a native speaker would use to interpret it. Can you (or your translator) please tell us what cues exist? Walk us through it, so that an intelligent response can be made. Otherwise, I might as well throw darts at a board. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2006-02-18, 02:34	Link #5
ladholyman Translator for Doremi Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 36	Lordy, I do stick by Mai-battle whole-heartedly. It's just that there are a "few" people, wink wink nudge nudge, cough Starks that wants me to change, and they have bugged me long enough. Since I am a fan of democracy, and I love polls, here you go. Anyways, here are a few arguments FOR Mai-battle. In episode 2, Yayoi scribbled on the ground. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6...ibattle0oz.jpg The first kanji is Mai, so I left it. The second kanji is Tou, which means battle. Therefore, Mai-Battle. Dancing just sounds too voodoo to me. The Chinese subs translate it literally as a "Dance Battle." http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6528/butou3bg.jpg But since that does sound pretty voodoo, I like it as Mai-Battle. Yes, it's a "half-hearted" translation, and yes, Static translated it as "performance." However, I had to change every previous assumption I ever made, from Mai-Star to Aswald to Shibaratsu. I will not falter in Mai-Battle. Whatever. Vote. __________________ Do you like lesbian tendencies? http://www.doremi-fansubs.com

2006-02-18, 04:17	Link #7
Timeless Enigma Tsushima Masaki Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada	Out of the options given: Mai-Battle Dance Battle Battle Dance Performance Martial Battle I would go for the dancing battle phrases Battle Dance Dance Battle (reminds me of Tekken for some reason... maybe it's because of "Tag Battle!") or Performance In some episodes an Otome's fight has been described as a beautiful dance (or maybe I was just imagining it) so I think these choices fit that idea well. The dancing battle options are shown to make literal sense in the manga (they battle to music and there seems to be a rhythm). __________________

2006-02-18, 02:27	Link #3
bdonlan Lazy translator Fansubber Join Date: Jan 2004	The word is 'butou' - 舞踏. nihongoresources turns up: 舞踏 [ぶとう] [butou] - (n) dancing. 舞蹈 [ぶとう] [butou] - (n) dancing. But it's used to refer to, well, a battle. It could be another of Sunrise's multilingual puns - 'butou' sounds a lot like 'battle'. Anyway, lad back in one of the early eps did some crazy conflagaration and came up with mai-battle, given that the reading of the kanji 舞 (dance) is 'mai'.

2006-02-18, 04:23	Link #8
Takemi_Ikazuchi Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Alternate World	Go with my very first suggestion (which everyone probably have forgotten by now ) Martial Dance or Dance of War

2006-02-18, 04:23	Link #9
Meliavor :O Join Date: Jan 2006	I too prefer the term 'Mai-Battle' mostly because its more of a term than the direct translations of the kanji.

2006-02-18, 05:15	Link #11
monster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I voted for perfomance in the poll but I'm okay with Mai-battle.

2006-02-18, 05:24	Link #12
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	I'll go for Mai-Battle because it reminds me of Mai. IMO it should be just "battle" .... __________________

2006-02-18, 05:43	Link #13
Tremalkinger Hai, Nao-oneesama! Join Date: Dec 2005	Why exactly does it need to be translated? There is nothing in the English language that represents what the word means, so just put down the literal romanization (butou), along with a note up at the top the first time its used in episodes to explain the meaning (Butou is a battle between Otome). If that's not a possibility, for whatever reason, stick with Mai Battle.

2006-02-18, 05:49	Link #14
IchiKyo 大いなる希望の力、キュア・ドリーム! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: France - Metz Age: 34	"Mai-Battle" Just For Fight And Perfomance __________________ Livejournal Precure. - Precure VS All Stars Incredible Roster.

2006-02-18, 06:37	Link #15
Ichy It`s a miracle! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: This is the Kind of Woman I want to play Games with. And by playing Games I mean.... ^____^ Age: 42	[X] Mai-battle

2006-02-18, 07:23	Link #16
Kleo Scanti Urd Fangirl Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe	Mai-Battle. Just because I'm used to it.

2006-02-18, 07:35	Link #17
Tempest35 Awe of She Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando	Feh, just stick with Mai-Battle. It has that 'original' quality to it. The way I see it, your translations are closer to what the origianl Japanese are saying and Static's subs have the 'Americanized' scripts. I like it that way so stick with Mai-Battle please If they don't know what it means by now....:P:P:P Besides, we need at least one 'Mai' in this show since they won't reveal the real one any time soon...

2006-02-18, 08:20	Link #18
Sian Kozukuri Shimasho Join Date: Dec 2005	going for Mai-Battle as well ... or ... maybe Battle Dance aren't that bad ... that would imo be the secondbest choice ...

2006-02-18, 08:20	Link #19
Lost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	If I may add something else, the term Mai-Battle has a distinctive ceremonious feel to it. At least, that was the sense of the word I got when I first heard it, as if it was a ritual being done in Honour of the great Mai. But, that can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it. Good, because it gives the whole fight a nice ceremonious, ancient, ring. Bad, because WTH does Mai have to do with the History of Garderobe? Then again, we never know, she may be one of the original founders or pillars?

2006-02-18, 08:53	Link #20
omegastar Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Mai-Battle Performance Either one of those, although I would stick to Performance. One worders are usually better, and in the case of Otome it's not a weird term... plus it closely relates to what Otomes are supposed to do, right?