2010-01-23, 03:50 | Link #5621 | |
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So underneath it all, Google is concerned about the privacy of their users and espionage of their internal systems technologies. Turning off the internet filters is just Google's biggest tool to respond with before just turning off the power in their Chinese operations. China is undergoing the process of learning what it is to be the "center" of the world or even part of the world ... its going to be much harder to play the "interfering with internal affairs" card and expect to get away with it. They're encountering this in almost every part of their economic sectors (food, copyright, quality control, products, consumer concerns, etc).
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2010-01-23, 21:42 | Link #5622 | ||
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Crash in 2010, Spanish economist warns the EU
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2010-01-23, 22:13 | Link #5623 | |
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2010-01-24, 08:38 | Link #5624 | |
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Google? Baidu. Youtube? Youku. Ebay? Taobao. Yahoo? Alibaba. Google really has met its match. |
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2010-01-24, 08:53 | Link #5625 | |
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2010-01-24, 11:59 | Link #5626 | |
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2010-01-24, 12:16 | Link #5627 | |
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Nationalism and obedience (or lip service) to rules will get the Chinese equivalents seats at the table - at least inside of China - however. Depending on how much they can move away could mean their staying a success. I haven't heard of stories of many out-and-out rebels in the tech space there... but if someone has, feel free to correct. China isn't - and won't for awhile, IMHO - going to just stop promoting its own companies to get ahead of the curve.
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2010-01-24, 12:58 | Link #5628 |
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Bullies: or how some kids are monsters
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...stPop_Emailed1
This article made me goddamn snarl. As in, showing my teeth and making a noise that indicated I wanted to rip someone's throat out. Most sickening part: Ten days ago, Phoebe was walking home from school when one of the Mean Girls drove by in a car. An insult and an energy drink can came flying out the car window in Phoebe’s direction. Phoebe kept walking, past the abuse, past the can, past the white picket fence, into her house. Then she walked into a closet and hanged herself. Her 12-year-old sister found her. You would think this would give the bullies who hounded Phoebe some pause. Instead, they went on Facebook and mocked her in death. They told State Police detectives they did nothing wrong, had nothing to do with Phoebe killing herself. And then they went right back to school and started badmouthing Phoebe. I was bullied myself in school, but not to THIS degree. I mean, they mocked a girl who committed suicide because they bullied her. |
2010-01-24, 13:06 | Link #5629 |
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High school girls are quite possibly the most vile, repugnant, horrible, vitriolic life-form in existence. Conquerors and tyrants that have etched their names in history with the blood of their victims can't compare...
God I hate kids so much. >.>; Edit: The school administrators ought to lose their jobs for this, and the parents of these girls ought to lose custody. Stupid leftist handwringing has school officials too terrified to actually punish anyone for being moronic. I would never have behaved like this; my parents would have beat the holy hell out of me. No discipline anymore, shit. I bet these girls probably never even got so much as a time-out when they did something wrong. And I bet their parents are denying the whole thing, "not my baby, never!" If I would have pulled a stunt like that, my parents would have drove my ass to juvie and told the cops to lock me up. I blame emo leftist handwringing.
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2010-01-24, 13:20 | Link #5630 |
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3 years of junior high school, 2 out of 4 years in public high school. I've had it bad myself, but nowhere as serious that I would resort to ending my life. Maybe I lucked out since the internet was not out yet or it would have been far worse for me. School work may have been important back then, but a very close second was survival.
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2010-01-24, 13:33 | Link #5631 | ||
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2010-01-24, 13:37 | Link #5632 |
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A long time ago I was bullied as well (around age 8-10), but that stopped when I hit puberty and turned into the gym rat I am today. So in my experience just becoming bigger and stronger than the bullies turned the tables but I suspect for high school girls there is a different dynamic at work. Male bravado is real but it seems like young girls care entirely about social connections so they don't have the option to 'upgrade' as easily. It's truly unfortunate but as long as we continue lumping massive groups of young, immature kids in buildings all day together it probably isn't going to stop.
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2010-01-24, 13:48 | Link #5633 |
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Stupid children are the product of stupid parents. Its a natural thing. No matter how "innocent" a child may be when they are born or try to live their lives, they are eternally shaped by their parents.
A lack of discipline, a lack of respect, a lack of understanding are all products of irresponsible parenting. Parents need to be more proactive when raising their kids, right and wrong is something which needs to be instilled into children at an early age. IMO, alot of parents think they cannot be bothered to take responsibility for their children. I think it has alot to do with culture and the parent's own initiative. When I was good bit younger, I found the administration in school much more lenient to me when I got into fights, however real hell was at home. My father would not let me do stupid things without knowing that there were consequences. Parents nowadays are afraid of kicking the shit out of their kids nowadays. Perhaps they're misinformed, perhaps they're afraid. But at some point a child needs to know what's wrong and WHY. I think the fact that nothing was happening to stop this stupidity (Didn't she ever told a teach about this atrocious behaviour?) is the most sickening part. Why didn't anyone do anything?
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2010-01-24, 13:54 | Link #5634 | |
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Unfortunately, schools and their staff care more about their image as a safe, healthy environment than they actually care about providing said environment, so nothing is done because it's far easier to sweep problems under the rug than it is to solve them.
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2010-01-24, 14:04 | Link #5635 |
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Articles like that make me sick. Not because of the content, but just because of their insipid attempts to appeal to emotion. I hate "news" like that.
Plus, I can't really feel sorry for people who kill themselves over nonsense like this. Does it suck to get bullied? As a guy who is 5'10 and roughly 110lbs, yeah, I can say from experience that it does indeed suck. At the same time, though, if you feel like things are really so messed up it's not worth living, then you may as well try to kill the people messing with you, since you're convinced you already have nothing to lose. That's about what I did. Except the abusive jerk in my case wasn't even just some random idiot at school, it was my older brother. Even with that sort of "attachment" I didn't really have any trouble strangling him one day and telling him that if he didn't back off, I was gonna knife him. He moved out not long after that, and I haven't seen him in six years. My mother still never believes that anything like that could have happened, though, because after all, he was so perfect. She is completely unwilling to accept my accounts as anything other than "things I dreamed" or "I was just taking things too seriously." Now, that was someone who, at the time, outweighed me by about 100lbs and was five years older. I don't think these many of these highschool kids really have such a big strength / size gap between them, so it shouldn't really be that big a deal. If someone won't lay off, and nobody listens to you, then bash someone's teeth in. If you can't win in a fair fight that way, then make it unfair. I can't sympathize with people who aren't willing to stand up for themselves as best as they can. |
2010-01-24, 14:17 | Link #5636 | |
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2010-01-24, 14:22 | Link #5637 | |
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I definitely believe in standing up for yourself, and some tough love really helps, but it needs to be done in properly or you just become an animal. The problem here is that you've got so-called authority figures who are making that difficult. Fine, if the people around you won't do anything about it, get an outsider involved. Predation only goes on so long as there is nobody in the situational 'food chain' above the predator willing to do anything about it. Over in Bermuda where my sister lives and teaches, a popular practice for disciplinary issues is to bring in a third party, an authority figure in one or all of the involved parties' lives, who has no stock in the image of what's going on to sort things out. You get kids who were beating up other kids getting chewed out by their martial arts instructor or their sports coach or something, and you would not believe how chastened the kid is by that. One further cautionary note: what I say about predation only lasting as long as there's not a bigger predator around? That applies to the broader social context of your neighborhood, too. You might have gotten away with beating your brother down, but go ahead and try that in the inner city on the kind of kid who goes around being a bastard for the kicks. You'll have some guy you don't know shoving a .45 up your ass faster than you'd imagine.
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2010-01-24, 15:09 | Link #5638 | ||
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In this case, like most, I'm not sure if doing anything now would really make them change. They may be afraid of bullying, but they'll still feel the desire and would probably do so at some opportunity again. Ideally, the whole environment growing up should be so that they wouldn't want to bully in the first place. Quote:
However the acceptance of bullied victims to fight back will most likely never be allowed, even though I think it should be. In this case, it's a catch-22 though: people ignore the bullying, so she looses; if she fights back, she'll be the one who gets in trouble (and perhaps lots of trouble), so she still loses. Personally, I'd prefer it if the you-reap-what-you-sow approach were allowed. |
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2010-01-24, 15:15 | Link #5639 | |
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No offense, but it sounds like both you and Neat came from neighborhoods on the more peaceful side of the spectrum. I'd strongly encourage anyone that fortunate to preserve the peace as best as they can and find some way other than 'an eye for an eye'.
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2010-01-24, 15:32 | Link #5640 |
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If you think fighting back is going to work your damn wrong, because after you overcome one bully there will be another waiting, there will always be someone with more power or more money able to manipulate you in away you don't want to. It's a societal problem where we devalue everything that doesn't feed our ego, and bullying fits perfectly into the me first society that America has developed into.
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