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View Poll Results: Lucky Star - Episode 13 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 41 | 39.42% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 27 | 25.96% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 19 | 18.27% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 10 | 9.62% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 3.85% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.96% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.92% | |
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2007-07-01, 20:46 | Link #41 |
Wannabe Smut Writer
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Seems like the episode is getting mixed reviews. Personally, I laughed my arse off for the majority of it. Loved the Shiraishi ED though I never want to see another like it again; it was good as a one time joke but yea...
BTW, though I think QBnoYouko may have mentioned it, did anyone else notice the guy-on-guy confession involved Shiraishi's character? That was just pure WIN in my books! |
2007-07-01, 22:14 | Link #44 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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This episode is so full of win that I gave it a 10 without waiting for the sub! Between Yugi-Oh refs and "Uguu" and Kagami-sama and the weird end and frogs doing the next episode preview... two thumbs up!!
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2007-07-01, 22:38 | Link #45 |
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1. niconico douga: I don't think there's any kind of ban/delay on non-Japanese viewers. I only had problems when my registration was at too high a number. They eventually broadened the range to include me. I think it's best to just sign up and wait for your number to come within the range for viewing. ttp://www.nicovideo.jp/ There are lots of interesting videos on that site. Check the little box under the picture to turn off the scrolling comments.
2. broadcast time: The way Japanese sites express broadcast times is deeply confusing. Newspaper and online TV listings are normally put in what might be called "28-hour time." If a show is on at 1 am late Sunday night, it is said to be on at 25:00 Sunday rather than 1:00 Monday. Lucky Star is first broadcast at midnight Sunday night on Chiba TV. This is normally put as 24:00 Sunday. However, on the Lucky Star site, it is listed as "Sunday late night 0:00-0:30." Some other sites use this notation, others use the 24+ hour notation (which I prefer). In any case, the official site lists 16 different channels around the country, each with a different broadcast day/time. TV Saitama shows it at 24:30 Sunday, RKK Kumamoto at 26:20 Sunday, KBS Kyoto at 25:30 Monday, etc. Spoiler for who wrote the ep13 ED:
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2007-07-01, 23:29 | Link #46 |
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I sometimes wondered how many people here actually laugh at the jokes in Lucky Star. I know that I miss most of the punchline and I don't even get the Yugi Oh reference. As for the ending, it shows just how Japanese this anime is. Most of non Japanese viewers will never understand the ending at all. Ever. All I knew is, this song was also sang by one of Kyon's friend in Haruhi when he stumbled Kyon in compromising situation with Yuki.
As someone point out, this is really anime of 2 ch. From Tommy Lee Jones to jokes of karate master, this anime really covered everything under the rising sun meme. The modern version. Well, it is fascinating sociological study on pop culture, one thing for sure.
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2007-07-01, 23:56 | Link #47 | |
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This show really is aiming at a very limited audience, and from the ED of this episode, I think that audience is KyoAni themselves. This show is just the guys and gals having fun at expense of the otakus, since they'll eat it up anyway. The show made fun of everything KyoAni made and the culture of otakus, and within they splice it with obsure or anti-otaku J-culture references an ordinary otaku will miss. For example, even kj1980 missed the Batsu Gamu reference in EP 12. I think it's just a HUGE inside joke broadcasted on TV, and it's going to make bank for them. Man, it must be a blast working for KyoAni. |
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2007-07-02, 00:05 | Link #48 | |
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Another poster in the forum also said the same thing, the jokes in Lucky Star is really niche jokes, and even he, a long time anime fan and Japanese fluent did not get some of the jokes in Lucky Star.
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2007-07-02, 00:26 | Link #49 |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Honestly now, did ANYONE here really expect Lucky☆Star to not have niche humor? I mean, the promo art features GIRLS PLAYING WII. The #1 character we knew about before it aired was Konata, and that was only for her reputation as a super otaku. And since this is Kyoto Animation we're talking about, since when did they NOT make niche anime? I'm not even sure if Full Metal Panic counts...
I came into this knowing full well that this show was going to be full of references that I may not get, sort of like Azumanga Daioh and Pani Poni Dash mixed together. That's why it's a hit-and-miss show, because not everyone will get it, that's for certain. But since I expected it to begin with, it doesn't really bother me that much. The stuff I do get does indeed amuse me, and these forums are quite helpful for filling me in on what I missed. Anyway, far be it from me to deny the Kyoto Animation staff their right to have fun with a show. I mean, it's not like it's at our expense, unless you're paying for every episode of Lucky☆Star you've seen, or are watching it at gunpoint... And besides, it certainly sounds incredibly self-smug to think that Kyoto Animation produced Lucky☆Star for the purpose of laughing at non-Japanese viewers. Are they making anime now solely for people who watch fansubs? Maybe they do have a right to laugh at the uncomprehension of non-Japanese people using legally questionable RAWs and fansubs to view their shows without paying. |
2007-07-02, 00:31 | Link #50 |
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As for the comments of Kyoani's giant "inside joke"...
References abound in all media. This is just a unique situation where references are blatant and part of the appeal. They seem to be having a great time including references to everything under the sun. ...but why does it mean they're doing it at any one else's expense? |
2007-07-02, 00:38 | Link #51 | ||
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A lot of humor is lost because most fansub watchers are a consumer of a niche Japanese culture, but are mostly clueless about all other parts. L*S is much funnier to people who knows the over all culture and then has an understanding of the otaku world. These kind of people, like myself, are very rare outside of Japan. It's a joke between KyoAni and their Japanese fans. I mean, I can just imagine a 20 something Japanese otaku asking his older sister about Sakai Noriko. We're not supposed to get the joke. Quote:
For example, one of the episode made reference to Japanese sporting news. You're supposed to laugh if you know that the 2006 Japan Series is between the Nippon Ham Fighters and the Chunichi Dragons (these companies don't own department store or railroads), that the "Hankerchief Prince" is the hero of the 88th Summer Koshien HS baseball turnament, Saito Yuki, and that the best pitcher in Japan, Matsuzaka Daisuke, is now a Boston Red Sox. KyoAni is laughing at the otaku who didn't get the jokes because they could not care less about sports. If ANY otaku is forced check sanspo.com to find out about these basic, everyday trivial for the normal Japanese, then KyoAni won. Their jokes has done the job, and the hikkomori otaku oblivious to everyday life better laugh with KyoAni at themselves. Last edited by AVPlaya; 2007-07-02 at 00:56. Reason: replies |
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2007-07-02, 00:53 | Link #52 | |
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Maybe then, this isn't the right show for you. Essentially you have to at the bare minimum be aware of the three shows I have mentioned in this current stage of the anime in order to get most of the jokes that are being thrown at you. Maybe see if they start doing references in a greater variety later on or if the shows works itself back into School Life/Popular Otaku Culture territory and then come back (As an aside those have been the jokes I laugh at). There's probably not to much you'll miss if you choose to do so, as the series has an extremely loose continuity. If you're looking for more variety in your references I'd suggest Hayate The Combat Butler, which is currently airing this season and uses many common as well as obscure references in it's punchlines. Oh one last thing, the Yu-Gi-Oh joke is a breath of fresh air for me. I was feeling suffocated by the Haruhi/Kanon/FMP stuff for a while so it's great to see something from Toei to break up the monotony. Hopefully this is a sign that the Haruhi refs have run their course at least for the time being and that we'll scale back a bit to a less self-referential style of humour for this second half of the series. My hope is for more focus on the characters themselves to fill the gap where the Haruhi refs lay, we still haven't seen much of the new cast, and I'm wondering what they're waiting for. It's definitely time to break them in. I want to see Konata's cousin already! Last edited by Kaioshin Sama; 2007-07-02 at 01:07. |
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2007-07-02, 01:42 | Link #53 |
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I'd like to point out that Looney Toons and Animaniacs is bursting with inside jokes and cultural references ... there's one episode of Animaniacs actually dedicated to *real* fans called "Please Please Pleese Get A Life" (spelling intended). Its so self-referential its a singularity event.
Lucky*Star is in the same vein... but just like Animaniacs - a viewer can miss ALL those references and still find the show funny, amusing, or relaxing.
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2007-07-02, 02:04 | Link #54 | |
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In Lucky Star's case, I think it's the character themselves the ones that often made the references funny in the first place.
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2007-07-02, 02:29 | Link #55 | |
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Next episode will be it, they'll give us the rest of the cast in the second half and that'll be a second wind. I hope.... |
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2007-07-02, 03:55 | Link #57 |
Yuuki Aoi
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This show is so obscure and difficult to follow that we are all still here after 13 episodes continuing to enjoy it. I agree with those who say that we don't need to get all the jokes and references to find the show funny/amusing/enjoyable. And that this kind of self-referentiality and abundance of cultural in-jokes is not unusual in Western shows, either.
I'm very happy with the show so far, but I too am eager to see the rest of the characters arrive. Especially "Patty Martin" (Sasaki Nozomi) and Konata's cousin.
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2007-07-02, 04:41 | Link #59 | |
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And Kyo-Ani isn't the only studio guilty of putting self-referential humour, just look at Ouran Host Club and Hayate no Gotoku. The list goes on. Of course compared to Lucky Star, their self-reference pales in comparison. Before Lucky Star, Kyo-Ani has rather showed some restraint in self-referential humour in their previous works, it's just that the premise for Lucky Star, basically a koma strip about an otaku girl and her friends - without the burden of a heavy plot. This of course makes it ideal for the insertion of self-referential jokes anywhere, hence the "orgy" of otaku-related jokes and inside-jokes. I'll wait till I've seen the episode to make my grading. But this got my heart stopped for a moment. Tsundere Kagami-sama! (Edit: replaced with longer version) PS I personally find Shiraishi's Live-Action ED funny. Last edited by Kinny Riddle; 2007-07-03 at 10:29. |
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2007-07-02, 05:14 | Link #60 |
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