Soul Eater - Episode 33 Discussion / Poll

[Pellissier]

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[FlareKnight]

Spoiler for Ep33:

Now this is back to good Soul Eater stuff. Sorry, but no Excalibur is good in my view . Was interesting seeing them train for the group soul resonance. Its tough since they have to match wavelengths and come to an understanding as a group. If they have conflicts between them it just isn't going to work. Agree that part was Black Star trying to lead it, but also the issues between him and Maka were making it impossible. Leaving the group and asking Stein to kick Black Star out just reflects that.

A pretty physical affair with those two. He threw her to the ground, she punched him, he made her cry, and she asked him to hit her at the end. Have to say his punch definitely won . Though really he is in good shape that his punches even without the soul wave would do some damage. Glad they resolved it though. Tsubaki was a big help there. Both in giving Black Star a hit for his part in it and talking to Maka later on.

Think Maka leading makes sense. She is the main of the three groups at any rate. But also she has a good head and can use it to move them. Black Star is definitely the best for going in there and doing damage and Kid is excellent at range. Good mixture that's for sure, long as they can get along.

Bit worried about Black Star though. He's getting closer to the presence inside Tsubaki, but feels like a dangerous thing. Hopefully he doesn't lose it which feels possible if he gets too hot headed.

Last concern goes to Stein. Even he can tell that there isn't much time left before he loses to the madness. He has to teach them the best he can with what little time is left.

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Spoiler for Ep33:

Now this is back to good Soul Eater stuff. Sorry, but no Excalibur is good in my view .

Spoiler for Episode 33:

What are you talking about? Excalibur is the best character in this show
Joking aside, it was a really nice thing to see the trio making progress in their powers.
I'm a bit worried about what happened after Black Star had stopped the cursed sword mode, he almost looked like he had a heart attack (didn't help with the sound effect). I don't think he will die, but the Cursed sword can't have a good effect on him it seems.
I'm also really worried about Stein. He just doesn't look like he can handle anymore, he might snap anytime soon now.
And that was some cry from Maka, though I'm glad that things returned normal between her and Black Star.

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Spoiler for Ep33:

A pretty physical affair with those two. He threw her to the ground, she punched him, he made her cry, and she asked him to hit her at the end. Have to say his punch definitely won .

Spoiler for :

She could have won with her Maka Chop easy

[NakedAngelX]

Awesome episode, Maka and Black Star both have pretty bad tempers.

Spoiler for Preview:

The preview of next episode looks fun, i wonder what creature are those that work under Arachne.
As for the soul chain between the 3, is that some kind of ultimate moves? Maka becomes the head, black star is body, tsubaki left hand and soul right hand. Thompson sisters left and right leg. Then death the kid as weapon lol. Super robot Maka!

[Mr. DJ]

man do I ever feel special right about now...

was trying to figure out what the song was that played during Black Star and Mifune's fight a few episodes ago...boy do I feel oblivious that it's the new OP that I was looking for...

[Reincarnated]

SH*T Black Star! You made Maka cry like that why you !!
Stein go insane! *dances* so scary! I closed my eyes when he reflected himself in the mirror.

please ignore my opinion. Now I don't like Black Star even more sorry for Black Star's fans out there.

[Deathkillz]

Quite a stretched episode imo but it wasn't all bad, just normal.

I think this series really shines when it gets to the action parts so I can't wait for the battle for the brew scenes to come up next week.

But this episode did show some interesting development for Stein...and Maka taking a hit from Black Star

[White Manju Bun]

Oh man the first 3 mins I was having a fangirl moment

Spoiler for epi 33:

This was one of my fav parts of the manga, I really liked how it showed that all 3 had to sync at the same time to have the same wave length, totally didnt surprise me that Kid and Maka were able to do it so easily and B*S, well...wasnt

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by White Manju Bun

Oh man the first 3 mins I was having a fangirl moment

Spoiler for epi 33:

This was one of my fav parts of the manga, I really liked how it showed that all 3 had to sync at the same time to have the same wave length, totally didnt surprise me that Kid and Maka were able to do it so easily and B*S, well...wasnt

Think it went fine with Kid and Maka since they really don't have any issues. They get along fine and wouldn't have that much of a problem getting in sync. Issues between Maka and Black Star were serious enough to make a combination impossible. Just glad it worked out in the end which was a pretty nice moment to watch happen.

[Captain Roronoa Zoro]

ha! finally i cant stand maka and her goody two shoes attitude...go blackstar!

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by White Manju Bun

Oh man the first 3 mins I was having a fangirl moment

Yeah that was a pretty damn good scene, along with him loosing it in the woods. One of my main interest in this show now is waiting to see what happens with Stein, and it could be at any moment.

[crystalalien87]

finally this episode came i was waiting ever since i read it in the manga...

i have to argue with that comments... yea blackstar is strong but he still a dick... i dont really see maka as the goody two shoes at all... if u pay attention she is the only one who has to struggle to become strong..even though she started off in the series almost making soul a death scythe? how ironic that she is one of the weakest now? but im only saying that cuz i like maka more then blackstar... i would say out of all the pairs he has to be my 4th favorite..

Originally Posted by Captain Roronoa Zoro

ha! finally i cant stand maka and her goody two shoes attitude...go blackstar!

[Captain Roronoa Zoro]

telling stein on blackstar when she could of just tryed to work with him first and then crying about it when she didnt get her way.... tht just pisses me off

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by crystalalien87

finally this episode came i was waiting ever since i read it in the manga...

i have to argue with that comments... yea blackstar is strong but he still a dick... i dont really see maka as the goody two shoes at all... if u pay attention she is the only one who has to struggle to become strong..even though she started off in the series almost making soul a death scythe? how ironic that she is one of the weakest now? but im only saying that cuz i like maka more then blackstar... i would say out of all the pairs he has to be my 4th favorite..

Well good thing is everyone having their own view on the characters. Might get a bit boring otherwise. Though I'd disagree that Black Star hasn't had to struggle. Its not like he got strong from laying on a coach eating chips. The guy trained his ass off and has gotten the reward of that hard work by being in excellent shape. The Fey Blade has been a difficult journey and he still hasn't mastered it. Maka has definitely put in the effort or she and Soul wouldn't have been 1 soul away from the goal.

I wouldn't call them weak as a team. The Black Blood makes things difficult overall. But if Maka can keep her head steady and fight to her ability she can do really well. Just a different set of skills and fighting style compared to Black Star. Though in the end not sure what being a goody two shoes has to do with work ethic.

[lmd_84]

Originally Posted by crystalalien87

finally this episode came i was waiting ever since i read it in the manga...

i have to argue with that comments... yea blackstar is strong but he still a dick... i dont really see maka as the goody two shoes at all... if u pay attention she is the only one who has to struggle to become strong..even though she started off in the series almost making soul a death scythe? how ironic that she is one of the weakest now? but im only saying that cuz i like maka more then blackstar... i would say out of all the pairs he has to be my 4th favorite..

Weakness is a matter of perspective. What Maka lacks in physical strength, she makes up for in other ways. Which is one of the reasons why she and Black Star didn't get on here. Maka is determined to succeed because she wants to protect people. For the most part all Black Star is determined to do is become powerful. Period.

I can see why Maka, who has a goal that's on occasion put her own safety at risk for the sake of others, finds Black Star's apparent single-mindedness so aggravating. Neither of them reacted well here, but I'm with Maka on this one.

[Keiichi_chan]

Isn't Maka technically the weakest since she can't properly even pull of Resonance yet?
I mean, we have yet to see Witch Hunting even connect when she does it,right?
I do think she's probably the smartest and best strategist, so her being the leader makes the most sense, but it'd be pretty easy to have doubts about trusting to life to someone clearly weaker than you. B*S's attitude is a little mean, but it's understandable.

Not to mention, Maka and Soul seem to have tons of problems ever getting on the same page during battles which is like fighting with one arm tied behind your back while Kid and B*S seem to be totally in sync with their partners. Say what you will about his attitude, B*S consistantly saves Maka's ass during pretty much every single group battle.

[Captain Roronoa Zoro]

if anyone should be leader it should be kid

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by Captain Roronoa Zoro

telling stein on blackstar when she could of just tryed to work with him first and then crying about it when she didnt get her way.... tht just pisses me off

She did mutiple times.

Originally Posted by Keiichi_chan

Isn't Maka technically the weakest since she can't properly even pull of Resonance yet?
I mean, we have yet to see Witch Hunting even connect when she does it,right?

That was only back in episode 4. She's able use Witch Hunter just fine since than. See Free and Crona's fights.

I do think she's probably the smartest and best strategist, so her being the leader makes the most sense, but it'd be pretty easy to have doubts about trusting to life to someone clearly weaker than you. B*S's attitude is a little mean, but it's understandable.

But, that wasn't what the issue was about, since Stein didn't choose her as until after training was complete, also she isn't far him in strength anyway.

Not to mention, Maka and Soul seem to have tons of problems ever getting on the same page during battles which is like fighting with one arm tied behind your back while Kid and B*S seem to be totally in sync with their partners. Say what you will about his attitude, B*S consistantly saves Maka's ass during pretty much every single group battle.

Not really, while they do argue sometimes they usually have the same mind about what their doing. B*S saving Maka in group battles isn't true at all. In the fight with Sid, Maka most dodged Sid's attacks whil B*S got knock around and at the end, he used Trap Star without warring trappping her and Sid together. During the Free fight he completely useless until the end of the Battle.

Originally Posted by Captain Roronoa Zoro

if anyone should be leader it should be kid

I love Kid, but he's got too many issues to ever be the Leader of anything.

[JunkKitty]

Originally Posted by Keiichi_chan

Isn't Maka technically the weakest since she can't properly even pull of Resonance yet?
I mean, we have yet to see Witch Hunting even connect when she does it,right?

Bu--wha? She was the first we saw pull off Resonance, and it was remarked (mutiple times) that they managed it surprisingly young.
Since the first "successful" attempt against Stein (he was, obviously, simply stronger), she's used it against Free (an immortal), Chrona (impervious to cutting attacks), and in another fight that is a spoiler here.

Sorry that this ended up as a rant, but Maka can use Witchhunter just fine, she has pretty much only faced unusually major opponents that most Shibusen students have never had to cross with. Its bad luck (or, in truth, being the main characters), not lack of skill or ability.

Its totally different from Black*Star, who's solo fights have ONLY been against a guy who hasn't been fighting him seriously and doesn't want to kill him either. MAJOR contrast. Maybe it's time to point out that B*S has only won 2 fights in the entire series so far, and both of them were fake fights. B*S has no leg to stand on, he's only all macho facade who hasn't really even brought his hyped-up strength to the table yet. It's a bit funny how he's been more successful as support so far, rather than as the all-powerful attacker he's supposed to be.

I think anyone wanting to understand why there's such a rift between Maka and B*S right now would do well to go back and review the Free and Anniversary battles where B*S was useless but Maka pushed herself way beyond where she had been and gained some achievements. There's understandable angst there.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by JunkKitty

Its totally different from Black*Star, who's solo fights have ONLY been against a guy who hasn't been fighting him seriously and doesn't want to kill him either. MAJOR contrast. Maybe it's time to point out that B*S has only won 2 fights in the entire series so far, and both of them were fake fights. B*S has no leg to stand on, he's only all macho facade who hasn't really even brought his hyped-up strength to the table yet. It's a bit funny how he's been more successful as support so far, rather than as the all-powerful attacker he's supposed to be.

Wow had I had idea Masamune didn't want to kill Black Star . You know since the shadow attacks seemed like they were an attempt to kill. Seemed like a real fight to me, both sides using weapons trying to take each other out.

I think anyone wanting to understand why there's such a rift between Maka and B*S right now would do well to go back and review the Free and Anniversary battles where B*S was useless but Maka pushed herself way beyond where she had been and gained some achievements. There's understandable angst there.

Honestly that's a bit over the top amount of hate being pointed at Black Star. No doubt Black Star messed up with the Free bridge battle. Was reckless to use an ability with a time limit like that instead of going with normal methods first. Though Maka was pretty foolish and almost got herself killed as well. If Tsubaki hadn't dealt with her and Soul that bridge battle would have been a disaster. Really we should be giving the achievement to Tsubaki for dealing with all of them . But your right throwing Tsubaki to cut off Free's arm and thus save Maka from falling to her death was totally useless. He should have just sat there . Maka definitely pulled it together and at the end of the day got the job done. But would go a bit far to say both she and Black Star were perfect on that bridge.

They didn't stop the resurrection, but useless is just taking the bias overboard. Part of the blame is with Maka as it is for letting her personal grudges go over the set up plan. With the ability to attack with his soul waves Black Star likely could have won that fight faster and the three of them could have gone in there to stop Free and Eruka. Besides Black Star got Kid from ripping his head off when his disorder kicked in. Kind of funny how Maka pushing herself beyond her limits is an achievement and yet Black Star pushing his body beyond the limits to try and stop Eruka is being useless.

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

But, that wasn't what the issue was about, since Stein didn't choose her as until after training was complete, also she isn't far him in strength anyway.

Maka has her strengths and works well with them. Maybe pure power (minus the Black Blood mode) isn't quite at the same level as Black Star. But she has good agility and can swing Soul with more than enough force. Some people work well leading a group and some don't. It was the right call at the end of the day.

Not really, while they do argue sometimes they usually have the same mind about what their doing. B*S saving Maka in group battles isn't true at all. In the fight with Sid, Maka most dodged Sid's attacks while B*S got knock around and at the end, he used Trap Star without warring trappping her and Sid together. During the Free fight he completely useless until the end of the Battle.

Thought they worked well as a team in that Sid battle. Maka definitely did a better job avoiding hits. Didn't charge in recklessly more than once from what I can remember. Would recommend re-watching the Sid fight though since Black Star did help Maka out a handful of times in the fight. Besides if we're going to fault Black Star for trapping an ally with Sid, have to give Maka a minus for almost killing her ally when messing up the Witch Hunter.

I love Kid, but he's got too many issues to ever be the Leader of anything.

The fun irony there is he'll probably be leading all of Shibusen some day when he takes over as Shinigami . Agree he needs to avoid having breakdowns in the middle of a situation before he can be leading. Besides think its the right call for leader of the group.

Anyways in the end I'll admit to having my bias. Though trying to see the both sides with Maka and Black Star.