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Chaos2Frozen · 2012-03-21, 22:18

I would say that 50:50 only applies to what Odin does and not what others do to her.

Miraluka · 2012-03-21, 22:19

Touma's bad luck plays against him so it won't work.

Mr.Kyon · 2012-03-21, 22:20

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The person’s scent [Einherjar Kagun] and the feel of the person’s skin were both nostalgic.

Lol Kamachi, we get it, they fucked each other. Poor Marian

Swordstriker21 · 2012-03-21, 22:21

But the Kami-yan disease is pretty powerful so you never know... It's Kamachi senseis call either way.

cleed · 2012-03-21, 22:21

what a holistic esper again can someone explain in layman's terms? is it just like AC espers or what?

Sumeragi · 2012-03-21, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kyon

Oh shit. Kagun is now a Einherjar. Poor Marian.

Have you gotten your wish, Kyon?

*Evil laughter*

Now, I shall continue working on my "Othinus gets Kami-yan disease" short story.

shmaster · 2012-03-21, 22:23

Regarding that..... is her chances of recovery from the disease also 50:50?

Zetsuen_no_Myuu · 2012-03-21, 22:25

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Originally Posted by shmaster

Regarding that..... is her chances of recovery from the disease also 50:50?

Touma's misfortune will undoubtedly always roll against him, so Othinus will never recover.

And that's how it should be. ^

Sumeragi · 2012-03-21, 22:25

All right, I think I should explain the 50% thing: Othinus has a 50% of succeeding in using her power. What that power is hasn't been fully explained yet, but whatever it is, it most likely doesn't interfere with her making Einherjars and such.

Okashira · 2012-03-21, 22:28

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Originally Posted by shmaster

Regarding that..... is her chances of recovery from the disease also 50:50?

The Kami-yan disease goes beyond what we know of the countable realm, having luck or the gift of chance do nothing.

Swordstriker21 · 2012-03-21, 22:33

Hmmm. I was just thinking but since this arc is heavily norse influenced will we get to see Brunhild again (the valkyrie saint)? Better yet will she contract the Kmi-yan disease if she does? Hmmm....

Miraluka · 2012-03-21, 22:34

Oh Brunhild you really have a mother complex. Good thing Silvia came in to help.

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Originally Posted by Swordstriker21

Hmmm. I was just thinking but since this arc is heavily norse influenced will we get to see Brunhild again (the valkyrie saint)? Better yet will she contract the Kmi-yan disease if she does? Hmmm....

Go read the latest translations...

Richocet · 2012-03-21, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Swordstriker21

Hmmm. I was just thinking but since this arc is heavily norse influenced will we get to see Brunhild again (the valkyrie saint)? Better yet will she contract the Kmi-yan disease if she does? Hmmm....

Yeah it's on the update and nah she's already playing Chifuyu to that little boy

Miraluka · 2012-03-21, 22:37

Sucks to be artificial valkyries on this story

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Mr.Kyon · 2012-03-21, 22:37

I hope Imagine Breaker can somehow revert whatever Othinus did to Kagun and leave him alive as well, somehow. Touma, Fiamma, Ollerus, I know I'm being really demanding but please give Marian and Kagun a happy end. Touma, you do this and I'll never complain about you being a terribad character and a storytelling abomination.

kthx

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Originally Posted by cleed

what a holistic esper again can someone explain in layman's terms? is it just like AC espers or what?

I'll try:

AC espers is Quantum Theory (infinitely small AKA micro-scale) and Holistic espers is Relativity (infinitely big AKA macro-scale).

For example, the reason a Black Hole is such an incomprehensible thing is that it starts out by being macro-scale AKA fits with Relativity but then warps and then goes into micro-scale AKA Quantum. Only with theories like String or Super String can you start to unite the two

The big difference for a Holistic esper is that to produce effects similar to a Academy City Level 2-3, he literally moves forces of the Universe to light up a flame in his palm, while AC espers operate of micro-scale Quantum perception or blablabla.

Honestly Kamachi has always been taking things very loosely with Science so don't read too much into it. Not to mention, poor Ping and Js06 have to translate deep science-y and philosophical thoughts from Japanese to English, and even English writing on such matters loses about 90% of people already.

Swordstriker21 · 2012-03-21, 22:38

Oh failed to notice that. Sorry. So it's kinda like Ane Doki w/ those too huh? Hmmm. And man my braincells just aren't cut out for this science thing. Hearing the theory of Relativity alone is enough to make my head spin. But I love reading TAMNI anyway. W/c means reading each volume of it is an exercise of masochism in itself... Hmmm...

Miraluka · 2012-03-21, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kyon

I hope Imagine Breaker can somehow revert whatever Othinus did to Kagun and leave him alive as well, somehow. Touma, Fiamma, Ollerus, I know I'm being really demanding but please give Marian and Kagun a happy end. Touma, you do this and I'll never complain about you being a terribad character and a storytelling abomination.

I think he would punch you in the face or lecture you to death and then will do that just because is the right thing to do, of course, the chances of him turning from Ein to dead are 50:50

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kyon

AC espers is Quantum Theory (infinitely small AKA micro-scale) and Holistic espers is Relativity (infinitely big AKA macro-scale).

For example, the reason a Black Hole is such an incomprehensible thing is that it starts out by being macro-scale AKA fits with Relativity but then warps and then goes into micro-scale AKA Quantum. Only with theories like String or Super String can you start to unite the two

The big difference for a Holistic esper is that to produce effects similar to a Academy City Level 2-3, he literally moves forces of the Universe to light up a flame in his palm, while AC espers operate of micro-scale Quantum perception or blablabla.

Honestly Kamachi has always been taking things very loosely with Science so don't read too much into it. Not to mention, poor Ping and Js06 have to translate deep science-y and philosophical thoughts from Japanese to English, and even English writing on such matters loses about 90% of people already.

The question is... Do the holistic espers are similar to gemstones? Afterall gemstones are a product of the macro-scale.

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“In a windowless building. This specimen is sleeping quietly within one of the core structures supporting that large building.”

And then the upside down hikkikomori felt a chill on his back.

Kirito · 2012-03-21, 22:45

So once again the "phenomenon" reconnected Touma's arm. I wonder if the reconnection process take longer depending on the damage to the host, considering it took about 20 or so minutes for the arm to grow or reattach itself.

Swordstriker21 · 2012-03-21, 22:47

But the entire purpose of the experiment in creating a holistic esper is to attain a power unknown to both science and magic and use it as a trump card of sorts. So does that mean they are actually trying to produce gemstones "artificially"?

shmaster · 2012-03-21, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

All right, I think I should explain the 50% thing: Othinus has a 50% of succeeding in using her power. What that power is hasn't been fully explained yet, but whatever it is, it most likely doesn't interfere with her making Einherjars and such.

I think it actually does. But there is no consequences in making an Einherjar, so she just need to try a few time until it works.

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Swordstriker21 Oshite mairu!!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ware wa Kuu. Ware wa Kou. Ware wa Jin!	But the Kami-yan disease is pretty powerful so you never know... It's Kamachi senseis call either way. __________________ The true last samurai...

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Swordstriker21 Oshite mairu!!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ware wa Kuu. Ware wa Kou. Ware wa Jin!	Hmmm. I was just thinking but since this arc is heavily norse influenced will we get to see Brunhild again (the valkyrie saint)? Better yet will she contract the Kmi-yan disease if she does? Hmmm.... __________________ The true last samurai...

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Swordstriker21 Oshite mairu!!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ware wa Kuu. Ware wa Kou. Ware wa Jin!	Oh failed to notice that. Sorry. So it's kinda like Ane Doki w/ those too huh? Hmmm. And man my braincells just aren't cut out for this science thing. Hearing the theory of Relativity alone is enough to make my head spin. But I love reading TAMNI anyway. W/c means reading each volume of it is an exercise of masochism in itself... Hmmm... __________________ The true last samurai...

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Kirito Enjoying Snack Time! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Where It's Legal to Marry Clara and Alice Age: 35	So once again the "phenomenon" reconnected Touma's arm. I wonder if the reconnection process take longer depending on the damage to the host, considering it took about 20 or so minutes for the arm to grow or reattach itself. __________________

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cleed Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008	what a holistic esper again can someone explain in layman's terms? is it just like AC espers or what?

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Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	All right, I think I should explain the 50% thing: Othinus has a 50% of succeeding in using her power. What that power is hasn't been fully explained yet, but whatever it is, it most likely doesn't interfere with her making Einherjars and such.

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Swordstriker21 Oshite mairu!!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ware wa Kuu. Ware wa Kou. Ware wa Jin!	But the entire purpose of the experiment in creating a holistic esper is to attain a power unknown to both science and magic and use it as a trump card of sorts. So does that mean they are actually trying to produce gemstones "artificially"? __________________ The true last samurai...