(L) Rosario+Vampire Manga

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by zodanhko

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Does that mean we have yet to see the real Moka? Or her real personality?

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Well according to what I currently know, Inner Moka is the personality that Moka had at the beginning, while Outer Moka is a artificial personality that has been made by Akasha ... to protect Moka.

According to the information that chapter 34 has provided us with Outer Moka can't exist without the Rosario ... and it seems that Tsukune is the key that is going to make Moka's seal come undone .... since, so far he's the only person that cares about the "real" Inner Moka's welfare, and is able to go through her "Outer" Moka false ... or rather artificial personality.

It also strongly points out that it might be a Tsukune X Inner Moka pairing in the end, unless Tsukune manages to somehow merge Moka's artificial Outer personality with her Inner personality, that represents the personality that she was born with.

[Johnny]

Here's a merged Outer and Inner...

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[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Johnny

Here's a merged Outer and Inner...

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LOL, well ... in that case I don't think I would want ... something like that to happen since the result would probably ... become a little weird

Still it seems that the current arc is answering a lot of questions that we had about Inner and Outer Moka, so I wonder what else Ikeda is planing to include in the current arc.

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Anyway it seems like, we are still going to need to wait a little, before we will see Akuhas and Moka's reunion, after all, Tsukune still needs to get out of the Rosario as well, and I think that chapter 35 is going to be spent on Tsukune somehow getting out of the Rosario on his own.

[kenjiharima]

What's this now Dragonball with the Fusion dance? lol

Anyways what Iam seeing now is that Tsukune needs to do what is needed to be done.

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Get out of that dream world with Kurumu's help!

[Waven]

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It was just a matter of time until there's a plot that "supposedly" forces Tsukune to decide between the two.
My bet is that Tsukune through ultimate harem power (or whatever plot device) somehow manages to save them both.
Any other way would mean Ikeda kills off one or two important female leads of the cast - One, if Tsukune really has to decide after all (or one of the Mokas sacrifices herself) and even both of them if he's going the merging route which I think is highly problematic since from my perspective that would mean killing them both while introducing a completely new character to the cast.

[kenjiharima]

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I want Ura Moka and Moks to be separated like in Capu2 manga style!

[Tachibana]

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Or both Moka's fuse

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Waven

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It was just a matter of time until there's a plot that "supposedly" forces Tsukune to decide between the two.
My bet is that Tsukune through ultimate harem power (or whatever plot device) somehow manages to save them both.
Any other way would mean Ikeda kills off one or two important female leads of the cast - One, if Tsukune really has to decide after all (or one of the Mokas sacrifices herself) and even both of them if he's going the merging route which I think is highly problematic since from my perspective that would mean killing them both while introducing a completely new character to the cast.

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Well that depends on how Ikeda is going to proceed with the story ... after all it's still his story and he will continue it, as he sees fit.

Well, since this plot element was just recently introduced ... I don't think we will find how Ikeda plans to resolve it.

According to what I know about the events that transpired in chapter 34, it seems to point out, that Tsukune is going to end up with Inner Moka at the end, though, since there are probably going to be a lot of chapter's, before this matter is going to be resolved, a lot of things might happen that could, affect the outcome of this particular plot element.

[Waven]

Originally Posted by Chris38

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Well that depends on how Ikeda is going to proceed with the story ... after all it's still his story and he will continue it, as he sees fit.

Well, since this plot element was just recently introduced ... I don't think we will find how Ikeda plans to resolve it.

According to what I know about the events that transpired in chapter 34, it seems to point out, that Tsukune is going to end up with Inner Moka at the end, though, since there are probably going to be a lot of chapter's, before this matter is going to be resolved, a lot of things might happen that could, affect the outcome of this particular plot element.

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No matter how much it is his story, if he wants to avoid otaku rage he better not kill off the female lead (yes, I think Outer is still the lead here) who at the same time is the "first girl" , a strong title to maintain. Of course a few author have the balls to pull of such a high-wire act, yet I think most of them regret it afterwards.

[cyberdemon]

here's what i think out outer Moka right now:

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There are 4 options that could end up happening:
1. Outer Moka doesn't disappear: Perhaps when Arucard is defeated somehow the Shinso blood is used to create a new body for outer moka to use.

2. Outer Moka does disappear: After Arucard is defeated, Outer Moka disappears. I see Inner Moka taking on many of her aspects though and that it will timeskip forward and she will end up being Tsukune and inner Moka's child. Seen that happen several times in different mangas that involved split personalities.

3. Outer and Inner merge together: This has been alluded to before but it basically means creating a completely new character.

4. Inner Moka disappears: Perhaps inner moka will be seriously hurt and dying and gives up her existence to at least save her body and the outer moka.

gotta wonder though. how could she protect inner moka? She's not exactly a fighter.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Waven

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No matter how much it is his story, if he wants to avoid otaku rage he better not kill off the female lead (yes, I think Outer is still the lead here) who at the same time is the "first girl" , a strong title to maintain. Of course a few author have the balls to pull of such a high-wire act, yet I think most of them regret it afterwards.

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That is true, though we probably won't know what Ikeda is going to do, until he actual does it ... or at least until he provides some hints on where the plot of the story is going to go, since at this point we don't have any clues regarding what is actually going to happen to Outer Moka ... I don't think that there is a need for us to further discus this subject.

Well, I doubt that Ikeda is going to resolve this particular plot element, until we are near the end of the manga, since he is probably going to keep the harem going, until we are near the end of the manga. Whatever the case is going to be, it's not like Moka is going to be gone completely, after all she's still going to be alive, it's just the case that her personality is going to be a little different compared to how she currently behaves.

It probably depends on how Ikeda is going to resolve this particular matter, after all ... judging from the information that chapter 34 has provided for us, it's not like, the current status of Inner and Outer Moka, will be kept forever.

[Tachibana]

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Well this is a cruel Fate that binds Tsukune and Moka, back to the dreamworld for Tsukune, im sure he will know what to do

[Dark Mage]

Originally Posted by Chris38

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, he has finally learned that Outer Moka, which Tsukune has fallen in love with, along with Inner Moka ... has been a personality artificially created by Akasha to protect Moka, which explains why Outer physically resembles Akasha.

Well I think its been pretty clear that Tsukune loves both the Outer and Inner Moka. I personally like Inner more than Outer, Also, I think the Inner isnt really completely her personality either because her young self was much more cheerful while the present Inner Moka was alot more colder. So I think in the end, the Outer was created out of all the cheerfulness Moka's real self had while the Inner kept the more harsh half

[cyberdemon]

here's a thought on Moka:

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It was mentioned that in order to seal the Shinso blood that her personality had to be sealed as well. Isn't that kinda like saying that the personality and the shinso blood are connected? I made a speculation before about the possibility of Outer Moka actually being a pure un-shinso blood tainted Moka. perhaps it is possible. Perhaps Akasha expected that there would be an "artificial personality" to go with the sealing but she in fact accidentally released Outer Moka from deep within Moka's consciousness. One that had been blocked by the Shinso blood since her birth.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Dark Mage

Well I think its been pretty clear that Tsukune loves both the Outer and Inner Moka. I personally like Inner more than Outer, Also, I think the Inner isnt really completely her personality either because her young self was much more cheerful while the present Inner Moka was alot more colder. So I think in the end, the Outer was created out of all the cheerfulness Moka's real self had while the Inner kept the more harsh half

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Well .. we still don't know how Outer Moka's personality was made ... so it might be possible that Akasha took parts of Inner Moka's own personality (that she had as her younger self) and added some things into it ... or something similar to that.

Though if you remember chapter 27 of the second season, it showed Inner Moka being a little cheerful as well, it's just that Inner Moka is less willing to show her cheerful side, compared to her younger self.

On the other hand, it might be possible that Moka's original personality might have been affected by what she what went through ... in her childhood.

After all ... she went through a very strong psychological trauma, which ... even if the memories of those events have been sealed by the Rosario, probably had a pretty heavy impact upon Moka's future development.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Chris38

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Well .. we still don't know how Outer Moka's personality was made ... so it might be possible that Akasha took parts of Inner Moka's own personality (that she had as her younger self) and added some things into it ... or something similar to that.

look at my post above yours. That might be a good explanation.

[Johnny]

Originally Posted by Chris38

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On the other hand, it might be possible that Moka's original personality might have been affected by what she what went through ... in her childhood.

After all ... she went through a very strong psychological trauma, which ... even if the memories of those events have been sealed by the Rosario, probably had a pretty heavy impact upon Moka's future development.

I agree with you 100%. We've seen Inner slowly turning that frown upside down over the course of the manga. What some call her coldness I call it her pride. The gang has been chipping away at that ever so slowly. I like that course rather then the abrupt abracadabra personality change to Mary Poppins in a day...

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

look at my post above yours. That might be a good explanation.

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Well it's a possibility, but until Ikeda actually puts some kind of explanation on where Outer's Moka's personality traits come from, it's still a speculation on our part.

After all, I don't think that Ikeda is going to actually reveal where does Outer Moka's personality traits come from ... so soon after revealing such a important plot element, since it would probably give us some hints on how does he plan to resolve this issue.

So we probably need to wait a little, until the author is going to reveal some more information about Outer Moka.

[technomo12]

hmm inner and out moke

kinda reminds me of the lates chapter on psyren.....................................


THAT IT MAYBE IT WILL BE THE SAME AS ALWAYS!

[Phoenix6000]

You people and your spoilers...now I have to stay clear of this thread for next week or so. <-<'

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Laterz. ^^