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Alastor Mobius Toth · 2013-04-22, 09:05

Can't recognize the term.

I tried looking around the Google, and I'm coming up with hits regarding armored cars, engines and a cigarette brand. Maybe it's something related to term "mechanized" or something that would use engines/smoke?

Was there any original Japanese in there?

Also, about the translation: are you going for a more literal one, or "stylized" - by that I mean making some slight changes that allow for a more smooth read, but aren't an exact 100% translation.

grevierr · 2013-04-22, 09:31

No Japanese, its all in Russian.

I'm going for a mix, to keep the proper feel without losing the meaning. Something like what you said.

LeoXiao · 2013-04-22, 21:52

Oh if there are German issues that come up I can address those.

Timsel · 2013-04-23, 00:15

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Originally Posted by LeoXiao

Oh if there are German issues that come up I can address those.

Oh! Than can I ask you about some German-Japanish?

Uchida Hiroki sometimes used German wordings such as Achtung!
Sometimes I can`t understand what does he mean.
Here it is - kanji 幸運を祈る - thats to "wish well". But above is furigana in katakana - フイール・グリツク . That must be the same meaning in German, but I cant remember popular German wishes that heard as Fuiru-Guritsuku.
May be you can say?

grevierr · 2013-04-23, 01:04

Hi Timsel,

A kind soul has let me know that "フイール・グリツク" it's most probably "Viel Glück". Which means Good Luck.

Just to check, can you let me know what the Kanji or katakana is for this term I highlighted for the first page? gèdèrovskih(гэдэровских) Thanks!

LeoXiao · 2013-04-23, 01:09

Yeah, Viel Glück is what that must be. I think the Japanese version means "to pray for luck" based on the kanji.

Timsel · 2013-04-23, 01:56

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Originally Posted by grevierr

Hi Timsel,

A kind soul has let me know that "フイール・グリツク" it's most probably "Viel Glück". Which means Good Luck.

Ah, that`s it! Thank you very much.

Quote:

Just to check, can you let me know what the Kanji or katakana is for this term I highlighted for the first page? gèdèrovskih(гэдэровских) Thanks!

Don`t mind, I only wanted Kate`s language wasn`t be so formal. Original wording is simple as I say it the table "May be, this is DDR tactical fighters base?.."
Here it is: 「もしかして、東ドイツの戦術機基地……」

Hmm, it seems that my comment in googe doc wasn`t saved. I hadn`t worked with google docs before, so can you say, please, how to save my comments there?

grevierr · 2013-04-23, 02:13

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Originally Posted by Timsel

Ah, that`s it! Thank you very much.

Don`t mind, I only wanted Kate`s language wasn`t be so formal. Original wording is simple as I say it the table "May be, this is DDR tactical fighters base?.."
Here it is: 「もしかして、東ドイツの戦術機基地……」

Hmm, it seems that my comment in googe doc wasn`t saved. I hadn`t worked with google docs before, so can you say, please, how to save my comments there?

Got it, thanks! So thats literaly "East German Army TSF base"

Hmm, google docs should autosave the comments as soon as you click on another cell. there is a status notice at the top center part telling you if it was saved. Can you try to leave a comment beside mine on the second tab?

grevierr · 2013-04-26, 11:18

Hi guys, can someone help me to get the german for this sentence? Its for page 3 of chapter 2, thanks!
"Good day, friend, now we can finally speak in our mother tongue"
Is this machine good enough?
"Guter Tag, Freund, jetzt können wir schließlich in unserer Muttersprache sprechen"

LeoXiao · 2013-04-27, 00:56

Should be "Guten Tag" and not "Guter Tag", "auf unserer Muttersprache sprechen" and not "in unserer", and the usage of "Freund" seems slightly weird (if it were me I would just get rid of it) but then again I'm not a native speaker so I can't be sure. Otherwise seems good and the English is fine.

grevierr · 2013-04-27, 09:44

Ok, thanks. I'll make the change to Guten, but does it have the same meaning as 'Good Day'? I get Good afternoon when i translate to English. the 'auf unserer Muttersprache sprechen' is the speak in mother tongue part right? I get 'speak on' when i translate with auf unserer.

LeoXiao · 2013-04-27, 14:07

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Originally Posted by grevierr

Ok, thanks. I'll make the change to Guten, but does it have the same meaning as 'Good Day'? I get Good afternoon when i translate to English. the 'auf unserer Muttersprache sprechen' is the speak in mother tongue part right? I get 'speak on' when i translate with auf unserer.

In German, you always say either "Guten Tag" or "Guten Morgen". The "-en" ending makes the "Tag" or "Morgen" into a direct object, which in turn makes the phrase into a greeting. There is no difference in English but German has it. It's kind of like saying "have a good day" versus simply "good day", if that makes any sense.

"Auf" does mean "on", but that's just the way it is done. Different languages use prepositions differently.

grevierr · 2013-04-27, 22:58

Got it, thanks again for the explanation. Pg 3 is up for reviewing.

DoomCalibur · 2013-05-21, 23:11

Hey Hey Hey!!! I finally found out what the deal with chap 18 scene where Theodor waku up finding Irisdine next to him men!!!! Apparently its like this:

Spoiler for True:

Crazy'O · 2013-05-21, 23:57

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Originally Posted by LeoXiao

Should be "Guten Tag" and not "Guter Tag", "auf unserer Muttersprache sprechen" and not "in unserer", and the usage of "Freund" seems slightly weird (if it were me I would just get rid of it) but then again I'm not a native speaker so I can't be sure. Otherwise seems good and the English is fine.

It's "in unserer Muttersprache sprechen", you only use "auf" in "auf deutsch sprechen".

Mazryonh · 2013-05-22, 00:33

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Originally Posted by DoomCalibur

Hey Hey Hey!!! I finally found out what the deal with chap 18 scene where Theodor waku up finding Irisdine next to him.

Man, that was a disappointment. We get a glimpse of Carnelian's specialty, and then we get the rug pulled out from under us. This would be hilarious to see in an anime adaptation of Schwarzesmarken, though.

LeoXiao · 2013-05-22, 02:49

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Originally Posted by Crazy'O

It's "in unserer Muttersprache sprechen", you only use "auf" in "auf deutsch sprechen".

Ah, my mistake. Haven't actively used my German in years.

Alastor Mobius Toth · 2013-05-22, 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomCalibur

Hey Hey Hey!!! I finally found out what the deal with chap 18 scene where Theodor waku up finding Irisdine next to him men!!!! Apparently its like this:

Spoiler for True:

My dreams, they have been shattered.
But to be fair, it did look fishy for Irisdina to pull something like this.

Mazryonh · 2013-05-22, 18:26

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Originally Posted by Alastor Mobius Toth

My dreams, they have been shattered.
But to be fair, it did look fishy for Irisdina to pull something like this.

Didn't she pull Theodor's face into her chest in the first volume? This would have been an "upgrade" to that.

black knight iust · 2013-05-22, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomCalibur

Hey Hey Hey!!! I finally found out what the deal with chap 18 scene where Theodor waku up finding Irisdine next to him men!!!! Apparently its like this:

Spoiler for True:

sigh damn i thought he mighta slept with her

2013-04-22, 09:05	Link #241
Alastor Mobius Toth Idar Lead Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: World Marshall bureau	Can't recognize the term. I tried looking around the Google, and I'm coming up with hits regarding armored cars, engines and a cigarette brand. Maybe it's something related to term "mechanized" or something that would use engines/smoke? Was there any original Japanese in there? Also, about the translation: are you going for a more literal one, or "stylized" - by that I mean making some slight changes that allow for a more smooth read, but aren't an exact 100% translation. __________________ Let the world fear us all. It's just means to an end. Our salvation lies in the Father's sins.

2013-04-22, 09:31	Link #242
grevierr The Lovable SuBiTA Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sleeping in Yokohama base, Section 9.	No Japanese, its all in Russian. I'm going for a mix, to keep the proper feel without losing the meaning. Something like what you said. __________________ When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt. Run in little circles, wave your arms and shout.

2013-04-23, 01:04	Link #245
grevierr The Lovable SuBiTA Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sleeping in Yokohama base, Section 9.	Hi Timsel, A kind soul has let me know that "フイール・グリツク" it's most probably "Viel Glück". Which means Good Luck. Just to check, can you let me know what the Kanji or katakana is for this term I highlighted for the first page? gèdèrovskih(гэдэровских) Thanks! __________________ When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt. Run in little circles, wave your arms and shout.

2013-04-26, 11:18	Link #249
grevierr The Lovable SuBiTA Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sleeping in Yokohama base, Section 9.	Hi guys, can someone help me to get the german for this sentence? Its for page 3 of chapter 2, thanks! "Good day, friend, now we can finally speak in our mother tongue" Is this machine good enough? "Guter Tag, Freund, jetzt können wir schließlich in unserer Muttersprache sprechen" __________________ When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt. Run in little circles, wave your arms and shout.

2013-04-27, 09:44	Link #251
grevierr The Lovable SuBiTA Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sleeping in Yokohama base, Section 9.	Ok, thanks. I'll make the change to Guten, but does it have the same meaning as 'Good Day'? I get Good afternoon when i translate to English. the 'auf unserer Muttersprache sprechen' is the speak in mother tongue part right? I get 'speak on' when i translate with auf unserer. __________________ When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt. Run in little circles, wave your arms and shout.

2013-04-22, 21:52	Link #243
LeoXiao 思想工作 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vereinigte Staaten Age: 31	Oh if there are German issues that come up I can address those.

2013-04-23, 01:09	Link #246
LeoXiao 思想工作 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vereinigte Staaten Age: 31	Yeah, Viel Glück is what that must be. I think the Japanese version means "to pray for luck" based on the kanji.

2013-04-27, 00:56	Link #250
LeoXiao 思想工作 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vereinigte Staaten Age: 31	Should be "Guten Tag" and not "Guter Tag", "auf unserer Muttersprache sprechen" and not "in unserer", and the usage of "Freund" seems slightly weird (if it were me I would just get rid of it) but then again I'm not a native speaker so I can't be sure. Otherwise seems good and the English is fine.

2013-04-27, 22:58	Link #253
grevierr The Lovable SuBiTA Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sleeping in Yokohama base, Section 9.	Got it, thanks again for the explanation. Pg 3 is up for reviewing. __________________ When in deadly danger, when beset by doubt. Run in little circles, wave your arms and shout.

2013-05-21, 23:11	Link #254
DoomCalibur The Shrouded Lonebrave Join Date: Sep 2012	Hey Hey Hey!!! I finally found out what the deal with chap 18 scene where Theodor waku up finding Irisdine next to him men!!!! Apparently its like this: Spoiler for True: That morning he woke up with his body almost recovered completely. Just as he lifted his body up, he suddenly touched somehting soft. When he turned his look down, he froze over seeing Irisdine next to him. Just as he was speechless, Irisdine mischieviously gigled and wrap his head into her soft naked breasts!!! Theodor found it strange that he didn't want to leave her embrace even though he was extremely embarrassed. Just as he enjoyed that softness for a second, Irisdine told him to look back. As he did it, his body stiffed right away at seeing Lyz and Katia's angry face. He was about to explain to them but Irisdine mischieviously dealt the final blow by wrapping his head back to her breasts again, making both Katia and Lyz shouted out loud: ""Theodor-san/ Brother.... YOU IDIOT!!!!"" "AHHHHHHH". Theodor woke up immediately after seeing that hell. He sighed a breath of relief after knowing it was just a dream because should he see Katia and Lyz making those face again, he surely won't be able to take it ( Siscon??!!!). Also, he wondered why did he dreamed of Irisdine like that but as soon as he remmebered her face in that dream he shooked his head furiously in embarrassment.