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Bullsquat · 2004-05-21, 02:38

Another anime title stemming from a game. After just recently watched Frequency on the USA channel I can't help but become totally intrigued by this title. Although the premise of going back to the past to change the future is not exactly original, this is the first time as far as I can remember that it has been applied to an anime series.

I think this show has the potential to be very engrossing. I'm off to d/l now

Tommy · 2004-05-21, 02:49

Description and screens plz.

Greenish Growth · 2004-05-21, 03:02

Wow that was fast.

Too bad the Hirameki English game is not out. I suppose if you want to play the game in the future and don't want spoilers you shouldn't watch the anime. Hirameki's website says that the game will be out in "Summer 2004" (if the date is not delayed further of course).

Yeah I like time travel stories. I'm not sure how good this story will be, but I do like these types of stories.

Kensuke · 2004-05-21, 03:46

I'm downloading it now, and I don't know anything about this OAV, but after checking this character page in the official page I immediately decided to dl this.

If I interpreted the kanji correctly Inoue Kikuko is Yanagihara Tomomi's seiyuu and Orikasa Fumiko is Ligene's seiyuu, those are my two favorite seiyuus so this OAV is must for me.

suguru · 2004-05-21, 04:22

I thought it was a good first episode, just finished watching it--does anyone know how many episodes it will be overall? The bad thing about OVAs is it'll probably be a couple months until the next one's out. I had never heard of this before, but a thousand people are downloading it, so maybe I'm just not well informed

The character designs reminded me a lot of Da Capo, and as you'd expect in a renai-to-anime, all the girls are kawaii. I like the male lead too, he has a lot more character and guts than your average weak harem anime leads do. It's worth checking out, nothing spectacular, but not a bad way to spend 30 minutes.

Spoiler:

Spooky-Electric · 2004-05-21, 04:29

Is it just me or do the character designs from those types of games all look the same?

wao · 2004-05-21, 06:48

If I'm not wrong, Serizawa Kaho is done by Mizuki Nana, who did Kraehe in Princess Tutu, Kururu in Bottle Fairy, Hinata in Naruto, Nana in Shichinin no Nana, Minazuki in Happy Lesson, Wrath in Full Metal Alchemist, and even Taeko in Paraonia Agent. Oh, and this person called Yufa in Ragnarok The Animation. ...

Edit: Putting in my sterotypical nature, I probably will avoid this show because I generally don't like renai games. Pfft... what love? I don't call it love. I hate them, because they seem so fake and so trite to me... The characters appear so stereotypical inside and outside to me from what I've heard and watched of such anime (I'm being very biased and unfair here, yes...). Unless someone can really convince me to watch this

jennwenn · 2004-05-21, 09:51

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Originally Posted by Spooky-Electric

Is it just me or do the character designs from those types of games all look the same?

Its not just you. They all look the same to me. Ugly.

I can't stand these types of shows either. Pass.

Yamano667 · 2004-05-21, 10:19

I do agree that anime series based on games are bad but, its good to download
at least the first episode and see O_o and then DECIDE

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennwenn

Its not just you. They all look the same to me. Ugly.

I can't stand these types of shows either. Pass.

Pitar · 2004-05-21, 22:13

DEJA VU.....
I'm not sure what game this is based on, well because it is quite hard to get a hold of Japanese games especially in Russia, but about 10 years ago there was a great QQ American series with Scott Bakula named Quantum Leap... Deja vu. This really looks similar on what the series might look like.

Spoiler:

jennwenn · 2004-05-21, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamano667

I do agree that anime series based on games are bad but, its good to download
at least the first episode and see O_o and then DECIDE

Yeah, its harsh. I'm just harsh on these type of anime because I rarely like them. Reading the description on the website, looking at the pictures, and judging from the past history of game to anime conversions, it was enough to convince me I'd just waste my limited viewing time.

Unless someone posts in this thread about how it surprised them or had an interseting twist they'd never seen before, I'm pretty sure this will suck.

No offense to the fansubbers who put effort into it though. Its just not my thing.

~~ZeppelinJ0~~ · 2004-05-21, 23:54

I didn't like it too much :\ The storyline just from the beginning is so forced I mean:

Spoiler:

GUTB_ · 2004-05-22, 01:03

I didn't even know about the game, and I knew instantly this was a game adaption.

At this point I'd complain about the tired re-hashing of the same stuff over and over and over. But I think I've been looking at these series all wrong to begin with, and now I think I finally "get" them. The game adaption is honestly just a reflection of the game itself. The game isn't about the story -- that's just a gimmick. Good dialouge, fascinating plot developments, witty screenplay, masterful direction, etc, all icing. Flavour. The little edge it has over the competition. But what's at the heart of the bishoujo game?

The girls. Everything exists to present the player with a selection of babes. It's like a dog show; they trot out the various different breeds and types of girls, run them through a variety of exersizes and puts them up for display. The judges are offered up a sampling of each of the major girl categories -- each coded by their hair color, personality type, season, and often an animal. These girls are put through their paces, and the viewer picks the one he likes the most and brands her the winner.

Well I've already decided who gets the blue ribbon for Natsuiro -- Kawamura Mana. Hot. So hot. Damnit. I guess this means I have to get the game now.

babbito2k · 2004-05-22, 01:16

Every time someone starts picking on these game-based shows I ask the same question: where else are the romance stories going to come from? Nobody wants to tell this kind of story in manga anymore.

If this story sticks to the problem it already set up for itself it will have something different to offer from most series of this kind. It's already set up some kind of resolution as far as the romance; it would be hard for this show to have a vague ending.

I am not surprised that some people don't care for these romance stories, but I question the intent behind weighing in on them without even seeing them.

wao · 2004-05-22, 01:18

Yeah, I already said I was being biased in not watching the show and making an assumption... But I'm too lazy to waste my time to download it and watch it; and based on lots and lots of factors (including everybody else's comments) as well as what I've experienced, .... I'll give this a pass too.

And if I trust GUTB_'s description of bishoujo games, then frankly I'd give ALL of them a pass... Compartmentalizing girls like that does not reflect well on the originality of their characters. I'm pretty sure not all games make the characters so fixed...

Secca · 2004-05-22, 03:57

It's kinda remind me of Kanon.

Edit: that sounds kinda biased, because I only saw 1 episode. ^^

Who knows. I definitely didn't expect Kimi Nozo turned out to be good either from seeing the first episode.

jennwenn · 2004-05-22, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by babbito2k

Every time someone starts picking on these game-based shows I ask the same question: where else are the romance stories going to come from? Nobody wants to tell this kind of story in manga anymore.

If this story sticks to the problem it already set up for itself it will have something different to offer from most series of this kind. It's already set up some kind of resolution as far as the romance; it would be hard for this show to have a vague ending.

I am not surprised that some people don't care for these romance stories, but I question the intent behind weighing in on them without even seeing them.

Its not so much the fact that it came from a game that bothers me. Gungrave, Sakura Wars, Gunparade March also came from games and I don't mind them. (They're average series.) Its the structure of the romance that I don't care for. Guy has choice of girls, guy is indecisive, girls will do anything for guy. It goes against how I think real women act and what makes a relationship interesting.

I know this type is very popular, otherwise there wouldn't make so many. People are welcome to like it, release it, fansub it. I just can't stand the genre so I avoid it, unless I hear about a gem, which I'll give a chance to. Tsukihime, for example, sounds like it breaks the mold a little, so I'm going to give that one a chance when I get some viewing time.

Yes, it is totally unfair of me to say this anime sucks without watching it. But I still think that it is about 90% likely that to my tastes, it does. I'm only harsh like this on this genre.

I don't like formula unless it is well executed (rarely is). Romance is a hard genre to break from formula, even in "chick flick" movies and other anime, which is why it tends to disappoint me. Too bad no one is writing the next Maison Ikkoku. Or maybe someone is...

Lord Raiden · 2004-05-22, 15:21

I'm gonna throw my hat in here and really, really say that word needs to get out about this anime. It's listed as romance only, but good grief, the sci-fi element built into this whole show just about gave me a huge....well, geek-rush just watching it. The romance is there, but not so extreme that it rots your brain or tears your heart out either. It's such a nice mix of things, and when she started talking Tachyon particles and all that, I was hooked, glued, nailed, screwed, welded, and otherwise perminently affixed to this anime!!

I'm so gonna get my family to watch this too. It's gonna be good. I can tell that already. So long as they don't screw this up, I think this one is gonna make my top 10 list.

Kensuke · 2004-05-23, 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitar

DEJA VU.....
I'm not sure what game this is based on, well because it is quite hard to get a hold of Japanese games especially in Russia, but about 10 years ago there was a great QQ American series with Scott Bakula named Quantum Leap... Deja vu. This really looks similar on what the series might look like.

Spoiler:

Heh, I remember Quantum Leap also (yes it aired in Finland early 90's if I remember correctly) and in fact I remembered it when watching this, there is just so many similarities, but of course those could be just coincidence.

But in any case I liked it, I have soft spot to these kind of sweet romances... girls, especially Kaho, are so cute...

suguru · 2004-05-23, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennwenn

Its not so much the fact that it came from a game that bothers me. Gungrave, Sakura Wars, Gunparade March also came from games and I don't mind them. (They're average series.) Its the structure of the romance that I don't care for. Guy has choice of girls, guy is indecisive, girls will do anything for guy. It goes against how I think real women act and what makes a relationship interesting.

I think what you said is true for some game-based anime, but there are more than a few that break that mold--in Natsuiro there isn't any Tenchi-like indecisiveness, from the first couple minutes you know exactly who the male lead wants to be with and from there out the story is more about him protecting her. Comic Party is another renai-to-anime that doesn't have girls fall all over the main guy, aside from Mizuki they're more there as supporting characters than as competing love interests. In Sentimental Journey the "player" only shows up in flashbacks, and it's 12 separate stories about the girls in the game and their lives. The stereotypical "girls used to hate me, but now I live in a mansion with 12 gorgeous girls throwing themselves at me, too bad I was born without a backbone and can't make decisions" game-to-series is something that's less common now, I think, because it really makes a monumentally boring story.

It is true some anime girls (not just in renai-to-anime) are demure to the point of lacking a personality, the "girls who will do anything for guy" variety (Shinobu in Love Hina, Aoi in Ai Yori Aoshi, to a large extent Midori in Midori no Hibi, and too many to mention without annoying me recalling how worthless they all are) but they're not ALL like that. I think the girls with more character/backbone/interests outside practically stalking their chosen guy tend to have more fans, so stronger characters will become more common (I hope).

The relationships in shoujo anime (like the protagonists in Daa!Daa!Daa! or Hime-chan's Ribbon) tend to be more well developed than game-to-anime, but they're also generally much longer series that have more time to build the relationships between characters. Natsuiro's no Maison Ikkoku or even KOR either, that's for sure. But I think babbito2k is right, there just aren't many good romance-oriented anime coming out that aren't game-to-anime, so as a fan of the genre I'll keep watching the better ones.

2004-05-21, 02:38	Link #1
Bullsquat Strange Love Join Date: Feb 2004	Natsuiro no Sunadokei Another anime title stemming from a game. After just recently watched Frequency on the USA channel I can't help but become totally intrigued by this title. Although the premise of going back to the past to change the future is not exactly original, this is the first time as far as I can remember that it has been applied to an anime series. I think this show has the potential to be very engrossing. I'm off to d/l now

2004-05-21, 04:22	Link #5
suguru 京都 ikitai~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: massugu	I thought it was a good first episode, just finished watching it--does anyone know how many episodes it will be overall? The bad thing about OVAs is it'll probably be a couple months until the next one's out. I had never heard of this before, but a thousand people are downloading it, so maybe I'm just not well informed The character designs reminded me a lot of Da Capo, and as you'd expect in a renai-to-anime, all the girls are kawaii. I like the male lead too, he has a lot more character and guts than your average weak harem anime leads do. It's worth checking out, nothing spectacular, but not a bad way to spend 30 minutes. Spoiler: Although the male lead stays a LOT more calm than I would if every time I woke up or hit my head it was a completely different out-of-order day. Although on the plus side, you could make a fortune betting on sports when you went back in time. I feel bad for his childhood friend, I wonder if she'll play a bigger role in the next episode, it looks like she will from the preview. I think it's a rule that guys in anime never notice when girls like them, even when it's obvious... The plot so far reminds me of "To Say Nothing of the Dog" (best time travel book I ever read) where the continuum of time had the ability to repair itself, thwarting attempts to change the future in ever more elaborate ways...although I'm a sucker for happy endings, so I hope in the end they save Kaho somehow.

2004-05-21, 06:48	Link #7
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	If I'm not wrong, Serizawa Kaho is done by Mizuki Nana, who did Kraehe in Princess Tutu, Kururu in Bottle Fairy, Hinata in Naruto, Nana in Shichinin no Nana, Minazuki in Happy Lesson, Wrath in Full Metal Alchemist, and even Taeko in Paraonia Agent. Oh, and this person called Yufa in Ragnarok The Animation. ... Edit: Putting in my sterotypical nature, I probably will avoid this show because I generally don't like renai games. Pfft... what love? I don't call it love. I hate them, because they seem so fake and so trite to me... The characters appear so stereotypical inside and outside to me from what I've heard and watched of such anime (I'm being very biased and unfair here, yes...). Unless someone can really convince me to watch this __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-05-21, 22:13	Link #10
Pitar Anime is a way of life? Join Date: May 2004	DEJA VU..... I'm not sure what game this is based on, well because it is quite hard to get a hold of Japanese games especially in Russia, but about 10 years ago there was a great QQ American series with Scott Bakula named Quantum Leap... Deja vu. This really looks similar on what the series might look like. Spoiler: Man jumping randomly and fixes things in hopes that it will all end in him returning to his own time and ending his mistake of (breaking that hourglass in this series)(going into his created machine in Quantum Leap). QQ well in theory this is quite more limited to two months p

2004-05-21, 23:54	Link #12
~~ZeppelinJ0~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cali	I didn't like it too much :\ The storyline just from the beginning is so forced I mean: Spoiler: Why can't that stupid red-head just say hey, don't get on that train at such and such a time, or even do something like lock her doors so she can't get out, even like a 5 minute delay will force the chick in question to get a bus and not get in that accident, stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.

2004-05-21, 02:49	Link #2
Tommy Mr. Prince Join Date: May 2003 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Age: 40	Description and screens plz.

2004-05-21, 03:02	Link #3
Greenish Growth Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Wow that was fast. Too bad the Hirameki English game is not out. I suppose if you want to play the game in the future and don't want spoilers you shouldn't watch the anime. Hirameki's website says that the game will be out in "Summer 2004" (if the date is not delayed further of course). Yeah I like time travel stories. I'm not sure how good this story will be, but I do like these types of stories.

2004-05-21, 03:46	Link #4
Kensuke Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Finland	I'm downloading it now, and I don't know anything about this OAV, but after checking this character page in the official page I immediately decided to dl this. If I interpreted the kanji correctly Inoue Kikuko is Yanagihara Tomomi's seiyuu and Orikasa Fumiko is Ligene's seiyuu, those are my two favorite seiyuus so this OAV is must for me.

2004-05-21, 04:29	Link #6
Spooky-Electric Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Is it just me or do the character designs from those types of games all look the same?

2004-05-22, 01:03	Link #13
GUTB_ Senior Member Join Date: May 2003	I didn't even know about the game, and I knew instantly this was a game adaption. At this point I'd complain about the tired re-hashing of the same stuff over and over and over. But I think I've been looking at these series all wrong to begin with, and now I think I finally "get" them. The game adaption is honestly just a reflection of the game itself. The game isn't about the story -- that's just a gimmick. Good dialouge, fascinating plot developments, witty screenplay, masterful direction, etc, all icing. Flavour. The little edge it has over the competition. But what's at the heart of the bishoujo game? The girls. Everything exists to present the player with a selection of babes. It's like a dog show; they trot out the various different breeds and types of girls, run them through a variety of exersizes and puts them up for display. The judges are offered up a sampling of each of the major girl categories -- each coded by their hair color, personality type, season, and often an animal. These girls are put through their paces, and the viewer picks the one he likes the most and brands her the winner. Well I've already decided who gets the blue ribbon for Natsuiro -- Kawamura Mana. Hot. So hot. Damnit. I guess this means I have to get the game now.

2004-05-22, 01:16	Link #14
babbito2k annoying white bat Join Date: Jan 2004	Every time someone starts picking on these game-based shows I ask the same question: where else are the romance stories going to come from? Nobody wants to tell this kind of story in manga anymore. If this story sticks to the problem it already set up for itself it will have something different to offer from most series of this kind. It's already set up some kind of resolution as far as the romance; it would be hard for this show to have a vague ending. I am not surprised that some people don't care for these romance stories, but I question the intent behind weighing in on them without even seeing them.

2004-05-22, 01:18	Link #15
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	Yeah, I already said I was being biased in not watching the show and making an assumption... But I'm too lazy to waste my time to download it and watch it; and based on lots and lots of factors (including everybody else's comments) as well as what I've experienced, .... I'll give this a pass too. And if I trust GUTB_'s description of bishoujo games, then frankly I'd give ALL of them a pass... Compartmentalizing girls like that does not reflect well on the originality of their characters. I'm pretty sure not all games make the characters so fixed... __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-05-22, 03:57	Link #16
Secca nya` Artist Join Date: Feb 2004	It's kinda remind me of Kanon. Edit: that sounds kinda biased, because I only saw 1 episode. ^^ Who knows. I definitely didn't expect Kimi Nozo turned out to be good either from seeing the first episode. Last edited by Secca; 2004-05-22 at 04:18.

2004-05-22, 15:21	Link #18
Lord Raiden Uber Coffee for da win! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle of insanity	I'm gonna throw my hat in here and really, really say that word needs to get out about this anime. It's listed as romance only, but good grief, the sci-fi element built into this whole show just about gave me a huge....well, geek-rush just watching it. The romance is there, but not so extreme that it rots your brain or tears your heart out either. It's such a nice mix of things, and when she started talking Tachyon particles and all that, I was hooked, glued, nailed, screwed, welded, and otherwise perminently affixed to this anime!! I'm so gonna get my family to watch this too. It's gonna be good. I can tell that already. So long as they don't screw this up, I think this one is gonna make my top 10 list.