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2007-01-08, 14:55 | Link #42 | |
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I do understand where you're coming from, though - yet at the same time, as I've said I'm unsure just how graphic the show can get in its timeslot. Indeed, it's going to be interesting to see just how they treat a lot of the book's more disturbing scenes, especially later on. Oh, and Dragonfly, don't write off the entire show as "slice-of-life" just yet. The story changes tone a lot as it goes along. Finally got a raw, I'll comment on it more fully when I'm done watching. I've liked what I've seen so far, I just wish I could understand it. |
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2007-01-08, 20:08 | Link #46 |
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Well, I never judge an anime on it's first episode anyway. I always give it several because some of my favourite shows have rocky starts or misleading starts (like my beloved Lyrical Nanoha)
My usual rule is "half the series or 7 episodes. Whichever comes first" but I tend to not watch things over 26 episodes long (multiple seasons don't count, of course) although I have seen some good long ones before. It's just not my preference. We'll see. |
2007-01-08, 22:13 | Link #48 |
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I've read the book...like aeons ago. I characteristically remember key-story points of Valjean's (( favourite character in the book )) like the silverware, revelation, etc, but aside from that, I don't really recall too much about it. And since I plan to watch the anime, I don't intend to recall since the anime's clear central focus which is Cossete and not Valjean would make me sad if I read back the book.
The only musicals I've seen is Sakura Taisen's interpretation of Les Miserables (( IN TEH GAME )) :P, but I've seen some movies. Though the one that stuck to me is probably the one acted by Liam Neeson...when was it? 1999? 1998?
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2007-01-09, 02:12 | Link #50 | |
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2007-01-09, 02:16 | Link #51 | |
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I have seen movie versions, but can't recall which ones. What I remember most though is the Donald Duck version of the story, which is the one I read first. That version is great, and I wish I could find it again. |
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2007-01-09, 08:24 | Link #53 | |
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Anyway, they do face a bit of a challenge here. If they make certain characters look... well... enslaved, then they'd loose a fair chunk of their viewerbase. This is an anime we're talking about here and such things as ugly-fying the cute characters wouldn't go over well with the japanese fans who likely aren't watching it because they're fans of the book, if you get my drift. So I think they're left with no choice but to leave Cosette looking all cute and adorable, even when sad or hurt. |
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2007-01-09, 19:59 | Link #54 |
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I've read the book. My french teacher plans on taking my class to the play sometime in the Spring. xP
And I c what you mean about making the characters look enslaved, and I pretty generally agree with you. Especially as we are talking about the East, which really hasn't seen too much of Les Misérables in it's full glory. Besides, most of these West-East (or vice-versa) reinterpretations have to follow with status quo concerning the masses of the side of world or the kind of media in question. Also, with it being an anime reinterpretation, even I, someone who's read the book, would like to see Cosette in that way. Reinterpretations are always interesting.
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2007-01-10, 03:51 | Link #55 |
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After one episode, I am already so depressed by the incredible sadness, badness, and incipient suffering that I don't know how I'll make it through even a few episodes. Has a kiddy look that puts me off, but is well done. Same director as Di Gi Charat and Winter Garden. And Nazuka Kaori is tearing my heartstrings already. "I can't believe people are now too lazy to read books. Is it the influence of those new-fangled daily newspapers?" I actually didn't really know what you were referring to, but I couldn't resist the analogy. I do think TV is a primitive industrial medium, one you have to watch according to someone else's schedule. The Internet is a step in the right direction: toward post-industrial independence, freedom, and variety. If we're lucky.
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2007-01-10, 04:02 | Link #56 |
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"Too *lazy* to watch tv"???? Really, that is the first time I've ever heard that line used. Usually, it is the lazy who watch tv since it is totally passive.
The problem I tend to encounter with the internet minions is that they are too lazy to even "google" or "wiki" for information much less visit some site that actually contained intellectual content (and the world might explode if they consulted a book...)
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2007-01-10, 11:37 | Link #57 |
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Having read the book and watched the musical, I was looking forward to this adaptation. With the first episode though, I had sudden doubts. Les Miserables works best, IMO, as a story of utter despair and depression mitigated only by the presence and saving power of religion. The bright, child-friendly setting and design seems to go directly against that. I just hope they don't gloss over the valleys the characters each go through, because those just make the peaks all the more poignant.
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2007-01-10, 12:36 | Link #58 |
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Yet to have the time to sit down and watch Episode 1.... lol
I never read the book, but the first thing to draw me to Les Miserables was the Liam Neeson film from the late 90s. The feel and visuals of that were great to me. I knew from later research that the whole story wasn't presented at all, but it did make for a coherent story for the movie at least. I remember later on I watched the musical... That was great too, Red and Black is da bomb~ song. lol What exactly is on TV that we are supposed to see though? It seems every good show is 1 in a 100 and sometimes not in the availablity of some peoples. I never got to see Band of Brothers till after it came out on DVD, I don't have cable. lol All I watch on TV is the evening news nowadays. |
2007-01-10, 12:43 | Link #59 |
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At least the old World masterpiece Theatre were all aimed at small children, so I don't see why it should be different this time. I would guess that it's very unlikely that it will get "dark" or anything like that. It's children/family entertainment. CU, lamer_de
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2007-01-11, 22:49 | Link #60 |
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Hi, new here! This probably won't give you the best first impression of me, but you have to understand that Les Misérables is one of my favorite novels ever.
Anyway, what they are doing to Les Mis is just plain wrong in my opinion. I haven't seen it yet, but I've heard that they made Cosette the main character? That makes absolutely no sense, because the whole theme is the redemption of Jean Valjean. I mean, what happened to Jeanne Valjean, and the Bishop, and Petit Gervais? I think they only made her the main character because she's a cute little girl, and we all know the kind of crowd they attract in the anime fandom. I like Cosette and all, don't get me wrong (I highly disagree with the previous assertion that she is not developed at all in the novel) but Les Mis is about Valjean, and to make it otherwise IMO just destroys the heart of the story. Not to mention, what happened to little Cosette being absolutely ugly and looking like a bat (and having chestnut hair)? Hugo's description of her is one of the best character descriptions in literature, IMO, and of course they translated that into a cute, starry-eyed girl who looks like she's an extra on the set of the local community production of Oliver! |
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