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Pitching Anime in America ~How to Phrase a Premise~
With more and more series getting licensed before they even hit the air, there's one element I've been looking into. Even if the people who choose to get their anime through subtitled streaming, and I hope a lot of people do, even if they were never into anime, there's a lot they have to look at. The art design and color palette a series uses is immediately visible, but Funi/Sentai/etc. don't have control over that, they're not the ones who make it.
What they do have control over is how they write the premise. Most of the time, the premise is accurate to the events in the series, but compared to the Japanese writeup, I wonder if they come across as trying too hard to fit the series into an American marketing perspective. I know that Sentai's writeup for Mashiro-iro Symphony gave off the wrong tone entirely. Quote:
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Here's another series they released recently, Steins;Gate. It reads like a stream of consciousness from "Kyouma", similar in style to the writeup above, but is much easier to parse through. Quote:
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2012-09-29, 22:56 | Link #2 |
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Steins;Gate one was well written and reflects the show pretty well whilst drawing interest I'd say. Other ones I havn't seen yet so I can't really comment. But the B Gata one sounds like H advertisement haha
EDIT: I don't think they're particularly trying too hard per say. Anime ain't exactly the easiest medium to sell so you have to spruce it somehow to attract new attention.
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I generally just read the the Wikipedia page and if its interesting read/watch/play it, otherwise conversations with forums/friends. I think a lot of the more casual anime fans around me rely on friends most for recommendations.
Also, I'm pretty sure most of these writeups for movies/tv series/etc other entertainment are not this ridiculous. For example, for a few things out of my Netflix suggestions: Quote:
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2012-09-29, 23:13 | Link #4 |
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The key is not just informing people what the premise or the show is about, but actively trying to catch their interest to give your a show a shot in the first place. If it's just "boy goes to school and meets high school girls". No one's gonna even give the show a shot in the first place because it's a boring sales pitch. When you're actively trying to advertise something, you generally want to talk it up every chance you can.
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2012-09-29, 23:24 | Link #5 |
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The summaries on the back cover of these products are usually fine. A lot of the initial reaction for the teasers can depend on the show itself. That said, and we'll disregard sites like Crunchyroll for a minute, is the pay-off of advertising an anime like Mashiro-iro Symphony to a casual audience worth it when, and stop me if I'm jumping the gun here, the people more likely to buy it in the first place are the "non-casual" fans? Us?
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2012-09-29, 23:28 | Link #8 |
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Okay. Telling the viewer what it is about isn't enough, it needs to say something to catch the potential viewer's attention. This still does not justify puns/wordplay/weird writing/etc.
It should be in the tone of someone talking about the series, not from the pov of a character, not in the style of the series, etc, but someone telling you what it is about and what might interest you about it. I think that if a person were to respond to a question of "Why should I watch X?" by reading the writeup out loud, if they sound like a total idiot, its a bad writeup. |
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2012-09-29, 23:38 | Link #10 |
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@ Random:
Puns, wordplay, 1st person, 3rd person, etc. are all legitimate writing techniques. To what standard are they not justified? You see them all the time in story-telling in order to create a more engaging piece of text. That's exactly the reason why they're being used here too, to draw and hook in interest. It really sounds like you'd rather an objective 3rd person review in place of these blurbs. But the point of a review isn't to sell a product most of the time but rather to evaluate it instead. Different texts for different purpose.
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2012-09-30, 05:42 | Link #11 |
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To be fair, a lot of these shows are really, really hard to promote in a way that would make them seem appealing to your average American who's not a diehard anime fan, and maybe just dabbles in anime from time-to-time.
Honestly, I'm impressed how Sentei managed to make Mashiro-iro Symphony sound kind of cool. I really liked Mashiro-iro Symphony, but "cool" is not what I think of when I think of Mashiro-iro Symphony, and the way it was pitched here actually made it seem kind of cool. And honestly, I think it fits well enough, especially for the 1st volume (where it really is a lot about these guys having to win over a school of girls that are largely biased, if not sexist, against them). The promo for Steins;Gate takes an interesting approach. I think that the "The microwave is a time machine" is meant to tap into "The cake is a lie" meme that's pretty popular with gamers right now (particularly those who played Portal, of course ). The overall approach taken for Steins;Gate here is pretty standard for "trippy sci-fi", and Steins;Gate is in fact "trippy sci-fi". Now, is this the best way to promote Steins;Gate? Maybe not, but I thought it was Ok at least. I haven't seen the other two shows, so I'm not exactly sure how good a job these promos do. But let's be frank here, B Gata H Kei does set itself up as being about a girl who wants to sleep with 100 guys (that's kind of hard to promote without it sounding like a horribly cheesy B-Grade porn movie, imo ) and I think it's pretty clear what Upotte! is going for. Given the premise of these shows, I think the promos are just being brutally honest about them.
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Netflix is in the position to have a lot of experience and knowledge about these blurbs, so I trust that their blurbs are a decent standard to compare other blurbs by. Also, more examples, of anime specifically. Though not stellar, most of these are decent blurbs. http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spi...14163_full.jpg |
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2012-09-30, 13:21 | Link #13 |
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Those synopses were all horrible and painful to read (aside from the Steins;Gate one, which still was a bit weird). They just stink of corn and "trying too hard". And I really don't need to be given emphasis on how pretty the female characters are when I can see them on the cover.
I do agree with Random32 that his sample Netflix summaries are much better at pitching their premises. But maybe these summaries are what works for anime fans, and I may be too much of a jaded deepfag to get reeled in by "wacky hijinks ensue" summaries. Also, I really hope Sentai Filmworks makes a respectable and serious summary when it markets From the New World. |
2012-09-30, 13:40 | Link #14 |
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I think synopses should really go the dull approach. When it comes to selling Anime the real work is actually in the visual, not textual marketting. The text should just inform the viewer about the outline of the plot. It's the visuals which really sells the show. If you can show some interesting visuals, then your going somewhere.
The sentai synopses posted above strike me more as something a highschooler(or more accurately a bad imitation of one) would write, to be honest. The only good one was the synopsis for Steins; Gate, and mostly because it was more subtle. The synopses Random 32 posted are what I'd consider good synopses. |
2012-09-30, 14:28 | Link #15 |
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Obviously I can only speak for myself, but here's my opinion on the effect of a writeup (for anime at least):
It's grossly overshadowed by visuals. Whether that's fantastic box art, promotional images, etc, if you ace that, you could have gibberish written in Klingon for your writeup and it wouldn't matter. Shallow and cynical? Yes. But, life often is. I'm not saying a writeup has no effect on individual A, B, or C, but that I suspect those individuals it actually effects are outliers. Writing a smashing writeup can't hurt, but the chances it's going to be primarily responsible for audiences flocking to your anime are, imo, virtually nil. Smashing anime successes like Bleach and Naruto, I'm fairly certain, don't rely on the written word to captivate their legions of western fans. ;D
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Also you can tell a lot about a show by it's art style. For instance, there's no way this could ever be a good show. |
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And an example that shows a basic description is possible, it's just not always the route chosen. Quote:
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2012-09-30, 21:33 | Link #20 |
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I find it hard to believe that most anime are sold because a random consumer pulls a box off the shelf at Best Buy and decides whether to buy it based on some absurd description like the ones above. Most of the descriptions cited here, and others I've seen, appear to conceptualize the in-store retail marketplace as composed of horny fifteen-year-old boys who watch anime to see boobies and have a couple of twenties burning a hole in their pockets. In reality the market for anime in stores like Best Buy has shrunk dramatically in the past few years in favor of online retailers like Amazon, streaming from Crunchyroll, Netflix, and the like, and piracy.
I don't buy any show I haven't already watched. I see the occasional person at places like ANN talk about blind purchases, but they seem to be a distinct minority. I would think that, outside of mainstream shows like Naruto or Pokemon or Miyazaki films, few people buy anime they haven't already heard of from friends or from sites like AS and ANN. I will admit that my days of being a horny fifteen-year-old boy are pretty far behind me, though, so maybe there are more casual purchasers than I might think?
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