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ragnarokr · 2006-02-05, 17:17

Basically this OVA was pointless, I think.

Okay, that it was following the manga, but it's almost the same plotline, just some deteils differ. But of course that the animation is great, is a OVA fro
m the beginning of 2006 afterall.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2006-02-05, 18:09

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Originally Posted by ragnarokr

Basically this OVA was pointless, I think.

Okay, that it was following the manga, but it's almost the same plotline, just some deteils differ. But of course that the animation is great, is a OVA fro
m the beginning of 2006 afterall.

JUST Some details?

You mean like the Nazis? Arcard's background in WWII? Portrayal of accurate bloodlust? Alexander Anderson being MORE than just a psycho? Elaboration of the Catholic VS Protestant politics?

The only thing pointless was the TV series. It was watered down in content. The fact that Arucard made it clear that he is not human was a major plotpoint.

Hellsing is NOT just another Buffy.

orion · 2006-02-05, 18:32

Only 4 more days to go!

Urban · 2006-02-08, 09:12

Looking forward to seeing Alucard and co on the screen again. The digest looked absolutely stunning. Made me want to go back and watch the original 13 episodes. (Which I did) heh.

KanaKaishou · 2006-02-09, 16:34

/me waits patiently.

kari-no-sugata · 2006-02-12, 13:48

Well, the full version of the OVA is out. Adds nearly all the remaining scenes from volume 1 of the manga. Has a few extra scenes. Nice.

**monir** · 2006-02-12, 14:02

Some other screencaps from the first episode in no particular order... but if you must look for order, look from left to right.

Alucard Obsession

http://i1.tinypic.com/nnqia1.jpg

Alexander Anderson: The Hellsing-fans know how bad ass this dude is even though he is a Catholic priest.

Well, we get to watch it all over again in the OVA.

http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr2fk.jpg

Victoria and others:----

http://i1.tinypic.com/nnr7me.jpg

The style of Hellsing that captured so many fans lives in the OVA. Only thing, I felt, Gonzo did better was the blending of the CG with the art. It's especially noticeable during the gushing of gallons of blood i.e. in one scene, the blood seems to be "floating" above the grass instead of "soaked" in. Everything else is very yummy and salivating. Looking forward to the next episode.

edit: Btw, the episode is 50 mins in length!

kari-no-sugata · 2006-02-12, 15:56

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Originally Posted by monir

The style of Hellsing that captured so many fans lives in the OVA.

Yup. I wish most manga to anime conversions were this good.

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Everything else is very yummy and salivating. Looking forward to the next episode.

edit: Btw, the episode is 50 mins in length!

I guess the next ep will cover all of vol 2 (Dead Zone and Balance of Power story arcs).

orion · 2006-02-12, 18:41

Yippee!!!!

The kickass quotient is elevated in everyone, including Seras!

Spoiler for OVA 1:

v1cious · 2006-02-12, 20:25

does anyone know when the next volume is supposed to come out? what kind of schedule are they releasing these on?

Mr_Paper · 2006-02-12, 21:18

I haven't heard anything on when the next volume should be out but it would be safe to assume that there will be at least six months between releases.

Having just finished watching the full version of the OVA I can say I really enjoyed it. Some people might still be upset by the new musical score but I, personally, think that the eerie orchestra/choir pieces suit the feel of the series better than hard rock. >.>

Several new scenes are added as well as the chapters that were missing, though not in any specific order, and they really help flesh out the OVA by easing the rough transitions.

Spoiler for Spoilers, be warned...:

It starts with Integral's uncle chasing her through the catacombs beneath the mansion, eventually cornering her in Alucard's cell. This segment, continued a bit later in the OVA, is heavily edited compared to both the manga and TV versions; Integral is shot in the shoulder, Alucard awakens and that is it. Later, after Alucard runs through the Priest in the Cheddar incident, the scene concluds with Integral asking for Alucard's name - the end. While it would have been nice to see Alucard dispatching of the guards and Integral's uncle, there is enough body parts and gore shown in the second scene to indicate that they've been dealt with. Still, it would have been nice to see it and I can only hope they clarify the scene in a later OVA.

Moving on; just before Seras passes out (before Alucard bites her) we're treated to a slight flash back into Seras' past. Those who've read the more recent volumes of the manga would recognize the scene while those who haven't will have to wait for a later OVA where they'd hopefully elaborate on it.

Spoiler:

Alucard bites her and we get another new scene. Feeling very much like Seras' dreams about her gun, ^^;, Seras is running from a group of ghouls until she runs into Alucard. Its an enjoyable scene and adds some of the humor the OVA seemed to be missing from the manga adaptation show in the digest version.

In 'Murder Club' Alucard's awesomeness is taken up a notch with his disposal of the insta-vampire bastard, I can't recall his name. >.>; Not only does he beat the guy, he totally takes him to school in this new version of it, finishing it off by unloading several clips into before running him through leaving a upright bloody cross of his remains on the wall. }:] Seras takes care of Jessica from the roof top and Alucard explains to her that she's nolonger human and that if she thinks like a human, she'll make all the same mistakes of them.

The Badrick indicent is extend yet further! Granted much of the new footage is minor and unimportant, a line here, a quick scene there, but it helps to smooth the flow of events during the incident. Unlike the digest version that ran the credits almost immediately after Anderson's retreat, the full version features a short conversation between Alucard and Integral over why Seras wouldn't drink the blood.

Most appropriately, the OVA ends with Alucard telling Seras that 'Police Girl' is a good enough name for her. ^^

The end credits feature a variety of images, most having to do with the Millenium Organization while some showing churches, crosses, Alucard's coffin and the lovely werewolf. ^^

**monir** · 2006-02-12, 21:37

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Originally Posted by v1cious

does anyone know when the next volume is supposed to come out? what kind of schedule are they releasing these on?

5th of April, according to AniDB.

Gaia · 2006-02-12, 22:48

Just finished watching the first Digest OVA. I'm a bit disappointed and still prefer the first Hellsing. The (computer)animation of Digest is nice, agreed, but some of the style, that made Hellsing so special, is just missing. I also dislike the new OST... The old OST underlined everything better, in my opinion. It was like... made for Alucard and mirrored a part of himself. The new one is to cinematic.
The way Seras talks, is also kind of strange... someone mentioned already this "Master, Yes my Master!". Then the SD part, after Seras woke up and thought, that it was just a dream... SD is an unsuited element for Hellsing, I think.
About Alucard. I like the old one more, cause the new one seems to different. More psycho, less coolness, or something. The old one got a better mixture of those characteristics... but might be just my opinion.
Well, Digest is not entirely bad. I agree, that they made the ghouls creepier, not to mention the excellent animation... but it wont nearly replace the old Hellsing, at least not for me

Aesir

Mr_Paper · 2006-02-12, 23:22

Seras actually says, "Saa... Yes, My Master!" ('Well then... Yes, My Master!') not "Master, yes My Master."

See, I didn't like the TV series that much because they took the edge off Alucard and drastically changed his style. In the manga he always seemed like he could snap at any moment, like a real monster - it also seemed to be a mystery how he was kept under control at all. He didn't care about anything or anyone, aside from Integral, people were just things to him and he was content resort to violence whenever he wanted to. However, in the TV series, he was too human, too preachy and less likely to just explode with abhorent levels of violence. It was like they gave him a bible and prozac IV. >.>

For such a dark and gothic series rock was the last thing that fit the bill, in my opinion. Sure it was an interesting change and the music is fine on its own, but it never sat well with me. The only tracks of the original score I liked in the series were the chamber-esque and choir tracks, everything else just seems inappropriate for the overall dark theme of the series.

I prefer the manga over the original TV series so the SD scenes don't bother me at all. They're meant to lighten the mood and ease tension between the more dramatic and action filled sections of the story, something they do quite well even in the OVA.

To me, at least, this Hellsing seems more like the original Hellsing (manga) and the way it was meant to be.

kari-no-sugata · 2006-02-13, 08:31

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Originally Posted by Mr_Paper

Seras actually says, "Saa... Yes, My Master!" ('Well then... Yes, My Master!') not "Master, yes My Master."

I can't quite remember how the "saa" is intoned, but I think it's supposed to be "sir" (as in "Sir, yes sir!").

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See, I didn't like the TV series that much because they took the edge off Alucard and drastically changed his style. In the manga he always seemed like he could snap at any moment, like a real monster

Appropriate enough - in vol 3 of the manga Walter describes Alucard as being a "real live monster", as "elevator action" clearly shows:

Spoiler for example:

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To me, at least, this Hellsing seems more like the original Hellsing (manga) and the way it was meant to be.

Yup. Often in the anime version of a manga series, the characters "feel" different and the stories "feel" different - meaning, if you liked the manga, it can be hard to like what feels like an incorrect interpretation. Manga can be a lot more individualistic (lower budgets = more freedom to experiment, more control from single person = more unique style), so if the manga is good, the anime team should try to build on that, not try to make it more mainstream or different for the sake of being different. Well, that's how I find things anyway.

pinomustfly · 2006-02-13, 11:24

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Originally Posted by Jaden

So does this hellsing ultimate yet exist? All I've seen is a trailer.
It's kind of strange that the series would be reanimated...while the original hellsing anime wasn't nearly as high in quality as this one seems to be, it was allright.
There has been hellsing projects that have been canceled, and this one has been in the making for rather long.
Is this like, really, totally, for real?

The series will be released, so it is for real. Really.

hi no ken Jebus · 2006-02-13, 12:52

Having skipped the digest I feel sort of left out here

. Anyway for the first volume of the OVAs, this was for a lack of a better word awesome. My only gripe was the soundtrack so far, not that it is bad or anything. I think that it's one of the few things that I wanted to see carried over from the Gonzo production. On the other hand we get Norio Wakamoto to play Anderson so it's all kinds of awesome to the nth degree

. I loved every minute of it and mega happy to see some of the goofy humor from the manga carried over to the OVAs.

Snoop' · 2006-02-13, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Mr_Paper

Seras actually says, "Saa... Yes, My Master!" ('Well then... Yes, My Master!') not "Master, yes My Master."

In the Japanese manga, she says something like "Sir yes sir, my masterrrrrr".
Simply ridiculous.

Uh, so, I haven't watched the OVA entirely, just watched the Bonnie and Clide part (in addition to the digest part I had already watched), and, well, I'm afraid to say that it still sucks.
Oh yes I'm really disppointed by this OVA.

While they claim to stay close to the manga, they changed the scene when Alucard rings the doorbell. That's an overkill !! Does Alucard's gun hold an infinite amount of ammo ? The action is rushed, the CG don't blend well, the style has vanished somewhere, and most of all, the music... Gawd, that's awful ! "Broken English" edited on/mute/on/mute, not only is that cheap and unfitting, but like someone said, it feels too much like cinema music. In fact, the whole OVA smells of American comics...

I watched that part of the Gonzo series, the art may be yucky, but man was that cool !! The tunnel thing was a good change from the manga, and they took the time to set the Alucard's line. Not to mention the awesome "Logos naki world - Malcolm X ni sasagu" BGM. (Note : I usually hate rock music)

Mr_Paper · 2006-02-13, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Snoop'

In the Japanese manga, she says something like "Sir yes sir, my masterrrrrr".
Simply ridiculous.

That they should alter a non-sensical line? That line has always bothered me, the fact that they fixed it is an obvious improvement.

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While they claim to stay close to the manga, they changed the scene when Alucard rings the doorbell. That's an overkill !!

They left out a scene... Oh Noes!!11!1one. While seeing Alucard waiting on the other side of the door with his gun to the peep hole would have been cool, the scene isn't any worse off without it.

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Does Alucard's gun hold an infinite amount of ammo?

It's a common affliction in near every genre; be it animation, Hong Kong action or Hollywood. It's one of those things you need to look past. -.-

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In fact, the whole OVA smells of American comics...

You're entitled to you opinion but be careful, some of us like American comics.

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I watched that part of the Gonzo series, the art may be yucky, but man was that cool !! The tunnel thing was a good change from the manga, and they took the time to set the Alucard's line. Not to mention the awesome "Logos naki world - Malcolm X ni sasagu" BGM. (Note : I usually hate rock music)

See, that change was a massive inconsistency to me and not because they actually changed it. This is Alucard using his powers on some twobit piece of trash insta-vampire, the entire scene conflict with later characterizations. Alucard would not even lift a finger to fight against Luke, a superior insta-vampire, until he had proven that he was somehow better than his inta-vampire counterparts. Alucard exerting himself in such a manner against those two is a sizable inconsistency.

I just think this incarnation is the better of the two.

Snoop' · 2006-02-13, 17:12

Well well...
I took the time to watch the OVA carefully and have just finished it.

Hm, OK, let's say it's not as bad as I might have feared. They added some dialogue scene amidst the action scene... Integra at the beginning wasn't huge-breasted like in the TV series, LOL. And Alucard at the very end was cute.

Now that said, the use of music (not the sound, which is good) still bothers me. Kind of... sometimes it lacks in the background, and sometimes it just comes out of nowhere... Mmh, hard to explain, as I still have the TV series music in mind. BTW try to play the OVA with the sound of the TV series, it changes a lot. XDDDD

Concerning the ammo, I know it's not elegant to bitch about it (and usually I like "style over substance"), for example Anderson pulling thousands of baillonettes out of his yojigen-sleeve is OK with me, it's just tha... hey, this gun is not a machine-gun !

As for the tunnel scene, it sure is inconsistent, but I wanted to point out that it was simply cool. Inconsistent, but cool and with an awesome music.

Uh, they didn't change the "masterrrr" line in the OVA, I think ?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to Luke&Valentine, so that I can quit comparing two incomparable things.
Oh BTW, I'm half-Japanese half-French so the thing about American comics only reflects my personal and limited point of view, I apologize if I expressed myself in an awkward or offensive way. What I want to say is that it is not a good thing for a Japanese anime to force itself to have an "American feeling" just to please the US audience.

2006-02-05, 18:32	Link #43
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	Only 4 more days to go! __________________

2006-02-12, 18:41	Link #49
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	Yippee!!!! The kickass quotient is elevated in everyone, including Seras! Spoiler for OVA 1: Will the Seras flashback be explained in a later volume? __________________

2006-02-12, 21:18	Link #51
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	I haven't heard anything on when the next volume should be out but it would be safe to assume that there will be at least six months between releases. Having just finished watching the full version of the OVA I can say I really enjoyed it. Some people might still be upset by the new musical score but I, personally, think that the eerie orchestra/choir pieces suit the feel of the series better than hard rock. >.> Several new scenes are added as well as the chapters that were missing, though not in any specific order, and they really help flesh out the OVA by easing the rough transitions. Spoiler for Spoilers, be warned...: It starts with Integral's uncle chasing her through the catacombs beneath the mansion, eventually cornering her in Alucard's cell. This segment, continued a bit later in the OVA, is heavily edited compared to both the manga and TV versions; Integral is shot in the shoulder, Alucard awakens and that is it. Later, after Alucard runs through the Priest in the Cheddar incident, the scene concluds with Integral asking for Alucard's name - the end. While it would have been nice to see Alucard dispatching of the guards and Integral's uncle, there is enough body parts and gore shown in the second scene to indicate that they've been dealt with. Still, it would have been nice to see it and I can only hope they clarify the scene in a later OVA. Moving on; just before Seras passes out (before Alucard bites her) we're treated to a slight flash back into Seras' past. Those who've read the more recent volumes of the manga would recognize the scene while those who haven't will have to wait for a later OVA where they'd hopefully elaborate on it. Spoiler: Seras' parents are killed by a group of hooligans... Alucard bites her and we get another new scene. Feeling very much like Seras' dreams about her gun, ^^;, Seras is running from a group of ghouls until she runs into Alucard. Its an enjoyable scene and adds some of the humor the OVA seemed to be missing from the manga adaptation show in the digest version. In 'Murder Club' Alucard's awesomeness is taken up a notch with his disposal of the insta-vampire bastard, I can't recall his name. >.>; Not only does he beat the guy, he totally takes him to school in this new version of it, finishing it off by unloading several clips into before running him through leaving a upright bloody cross of his remains on the wall. }:] Seras takes care of Jessica from the roof top and Alucard explains to her that she's nolonger human and that if she thinks like a human, she'll make all the same mistakes of them. The Badrick indicent is extend yet further! Granted much of the new footage is minor and unimportant, a line here, a quick scene there, but it helps to smooth the flow of events during the incident. Unlike the digest version that ran the credits almost immediately after Anderson's retreat, the full version features a short conversation between Alucard and Integral over why Seras wouldn't drink the blood. Most appropriately, the OVA ends with Alucard telling Seras that 'Police Girl' is a good enough name for her. ^^ The end credits feature a variety of images, most having to do with the Millenium Organization while some showing churches, crosses, Alucard's coffin and the lovely werewolf. ^^

2006-02-13, 12:52	Link #57
hi no ken Jebus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	Having skipped the digest I feel sort of left out here. Anyway for the first volume of the OVAs, this was for a lack of a better word awesome. My only gripe was the soundtrack so far, not that it is bad or anything. I think that it's one of the few things that I wanted to see carried over from the Gonzo production. On the other hand we get Norio Wakamoto to play Anderson so it's all kinds of awesome to the nth degree. I loved every minute of it and mega happy to see some of the goofy humor from the manga carried over to the OVAs.

2006-02-13, 17:12	Link #60
Snoop' Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Paris Age: 40	Well well... I took the time to watch the OVA carefully and have just finished it. Hm, OK, let's say it's not as bad as I might have feared. They added some dialogue scene amidst the action scene... Integra at the beginning wasn't huge-breasted like in the TV series, LOL. And Alucard at the very end was cute. Now that said, the use of music (not the sound, which is good) still bothers me. Kind of... sometimes it lacks in the background, and sometimes it just comes out of nowhere... Mmh, hard to explain, as I still have the TV series music in mind. BTW try to play the OVA with the sound of the TV series, it changes a lot. XDDDD Concerning the ammo, I know it's not elegant to bitch about it (and usually I like "style over substance"), for example Anderson pulling thousands of baillonettes out of his yojigen-sleeve is OK with me, it's just tha... hey, this gun is not a machine-gun ! As for the tunnel scene, it sure is inconsistent, but I wanted to point out that it was simply cool. Inconsistent, but cool and with an awesome music. Uh, they didn't change the "masterrrr" line in the OVA, I think ? Anyway, I'm looking forward to Luke&Valentine, so that I can quit comparing two incomparable things. Oh BTW, I'm half-Japanese half-French so the thing about American comics only reflects my personal and limited point of view, I apologize if I expressed myself in an awkward or offensive way. What I want to say is that it is not a good thing for a Japanese anime to force itself to have an "American feeling" just to please the US audience. Last edited by Snoop'; 2006-02-13 at 17:28.

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ragnarokr The Rare Visitor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Portugal Age: 42	Basically this OVA was pointless, I think. Okay, that it was following the manga, but it's almost the same plotline, just some deteils differ. But of course that the animation is great, is a OVA fro m the beginning of 2006 afterall.

2006-02-08, 09:12	Link #44
Urban Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Looking forward to seeing Alucard and co on the screen again. The digest looked absolutely stunning. Made me want to go back and watch the original 13 episodes. (Which I did) heh.

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KanaKaishou Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	/me waits patiently.

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kari-no-sugata Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Well, the full version of the OVA is out. Adds nearly all the remaining scenes from volume 1 of the manga. Has a few extra scenes. Nice.

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v1cious Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	does anyone know when the next volume is supposed to come out? what kind of schedule are they releasing these on?

2006-02-12, 22:48	Link #53
Gaia ROW! ROW! FIGHT DA POWAH! Graphic Designer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Age: 38	Just finished watching the first Digest OVA. I'm a bit disappointed and still prefer the first Hellsing. The (computer)animation of Digest is nice, agreed, but some of the style, that made Hellsing so special, is just missing. I also dislike the new OST... The old OST underlined everything better, in my opinion. It was like... made for Alucard and mirrored a part of himself. The new one is to cinematic. The way Seras talks, is also kind of strange... someone mentioned already this "Master, Yes my Master!". Then the SD part, after Seras woke up and thought, that it was just a dream... SD is an unsuited element for Hellsing, I think. About Alucard. I like the old one more, cause the new one seems to different. More psycho, less coolness, or something. The old one got a better mixture of those characteristics... but might be just my opinion. Well, Digest is not entirely bad. I agree, that they made the ghouls creepier, not to mention the excellent animation... but it wont nearly replace the old Hellsing, at least not for me Aesir

2006-02-12, 23:22	Link #54
Mr_Paper Hmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Looking for his book...	Seras actually says, "Saa... Yes, My Master!" ('Well then... Yes, My Master!') not "Master, yes My Master." See, I didn't like the TV series that much because they took the edge off Alucard and drastically changed his style. In the manga he always seemed like he could snap at any moment, like a real monster - it also seemed to be a mystery how he was kept under control at all. He didn't care about anything or anyone, aside from Integral, people were just things to him and he was content resort to violence whenever he wanted to. However, in the TV series, he was too human, too preachy and less likely to just explode with abhorent levels of violence. It was like they gave him a bible and prozac IV. >.> For such a dark and gothic series rock was the last thing that fit the bill, in my opinion. Sure it was an interesting change and the music is fine on its own, but it never sat well with me. The only tracks of the original score I liked in the series were the chamber-esque and choir tracks, everything else just seems inappropriate for the overall dark theme of the series. I prefer the manga over the original TV series so the SD scenes don't bother me at all. They're meant to lighten the mood and ease tension between the more dramatic and action filled sections of the story, something they do quite well even in the OVA. To me, at least, this Hellsing seems more like the original Hellsing (manga) and the way it was meant to be.