2010-04-23, 15:18 | Link #8801 | |
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2010-04-23, 15:19 | Link #8802 | |
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In a chess game, that is the mark of a good chess player, because chess is a full information game with two sides that have absolutely equal forces. It has not yet been conclusively mathematically proven for a complete chess game that if both opponents play perfectly, the inevitable end result is a draw, but it does look like this is what it is. So misleading your opponent into making a mistake and exploiting it is essentially the only way to win, and not doing that is a mistake. But if you possess an overwhelming advantage, caring what your opponent thinks is often not required.
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2010-04-23, 15:20 | Link #8803 |
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That's actually kind of interesting considering in episode 1 Nanjo gets to see the corpse right? I don't think he checked it, but if he's a doctor he'd know enough about anatomy to know at least that much.
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2010-04-23, 15:26 | Link #8804 |
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Actually, by this moment I'm not sure that Ryukishi knows enough about anatomy himself to write Nanjo's medical knowledge in a convincing manner. That's why he comes out so ridiculous.
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2010-04-23, 15:30 | Link #8805 | |
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An example: If you actually broke your nose bone instead of just the cartilage there is a very high chance the bone would pierce your brain and you'd die. You'd have to hit below the nose at just the right angle for that to work though.
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2010-04-23, 15:33 | Link #8806 |
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This chessboard thinking stuff gives me a random idea.
If a good chess player is required to to turn the chessboard over, then that means if a person is a good chess player, you can read their moves using chessboard thinking. We know from EP1 and EP2 that Kinzo, Nanjo, and Genji are all good chess players. Is there anyone else? |
2010-04-23, 15:35 | Link #8807 | |
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2010-04-23, 15:36 | Link #8808 | ||
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Now this issue only depends on Kinzo's height. If he's a tall man then there's no way they would mistake Kanon for him, unless they are really hopeless observers. But I wonder why you need to press on this point. You don't need to say Kanon is actually the burnt body, especially considering that in EP1 Battler sees both of them at the same time. this point is extremely moot, and you are also jeopardizing one of your strongest point against the shkanon theory (EP3 twilight) with this. I wouldn't insist too much on this if I were you.
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2010-04-23, 15:37 | Link #8809 | |
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Other than those people, nope. In the meta/magic scenes, Virgilia, Ronove, the stakes and amusingly, Rudolf, are seen using chess terms to describe what's going on. EDIT: Oh yes, I forgot George.
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2010-04-23, 15:39 | Link #8810 | |
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But until then no
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2010-04-23, 15:41 | Link #8811 | |
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Anyway, I don't think there are too many good chess players, so those are probably the only ones we can use chessboard thinking against. Any thoughts? |
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2010-04-23, 15:41 | Link #8812 | |
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For a mystery author, I feel that the important things to know are a) basic anatomy and b) up-to-date, accurate psychology, not the pop psych shit Hollywood rehashes every year. I really didn't mean to insult Ryukishi this much, but it's clear that the only things he has a really extensive knowledge of are a) mysteries, and b) typical otaku pastimes. If these two aren't important in some way after all that buildup, and Ep7 is just Shkanon love-love time again, I'm going to fly over to Japan and smack Ryukishi one. God, I need to stop taking the piss out of this man... |
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2010-04-23, 15:44 | Link #8813 | |
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So I wouldn't take the anime for granted. |
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2010-04-23, 15:50 | Link #8814 | |
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2010-04-23, 15:54 | Link #8816 | |
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Basically, the only one left is George, who's pattern of action is unusually straightforward... as if he doesn't care what anyone else thinks, he is always shown to be ready for a frontal confrontation, not announcing his opposition to the family over Shannon, nor actually hiding it.
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2010-04-23, 15:58 | Link #8818 |
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Because it explains why Kanon disappeared in that episode and also demonstrates that he has polydactyly, which gives Kinzo a reason to specifically adopt him and possibly choose him as an heir. Furthermore, it evades the problem that no motive has ever been established for burning the older Kinzo's corpse in that episode.
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2010-04-23, 16:00 | Link #8820 | |
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Otherwise they do absolutely nothing, which would be really hard for them to do considering how suspicious they are. |
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