(L) Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu‎ (Baka and Test and Shoukanjuu)

[Krippr]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

just watch episode 11 raw

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looks like a redo of vol 01 to me and they are doing it like the novel and manga well I think its great

Yeah, and since Himeji tore off the letter, we will never has the chance to watch the adaption of chapter 2 volume 3.5, Me and Insurgence and Love Letter, which was totally hilarious. And what with the lack of Minami's scene in the anime? I just can't stand it anymore. Good anime or what, this show is simply a fail adaptation.

Pic related:

Spoiler for Thing that will never ever happen in the anime :(:

[tsunade666]

I like that picture. Taking it.

well they didn't adapt it all but I like the part where

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akihisa punch the wall. For a moment it reminded me of touma and his falcon punch

they skip some and fast forward it. I wonder what will happen next.

[cubicjack]

Personally, I think doing vol 1 at this point feels pretty out of place, and unneeded. I would have preferred vol 3, 6 or 7 if they wanted to focus on summon battles for the season end.

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep11:

It's been a while since this anime's been interesting...
Finally not just a whole bunch of random gags... Though that black+white shot of Yuuji is.......... Nevermind.

Anyways, glad there was story finally. Kind of wished they spread the plot out through a couple of episodes instead of suddenly going through two classes in one episode. Not bad though, either way.
...
That jerk's girlfriend gets no more appearance time?
More importantly, what's so good about him? (I like him because he's such a jerk, but that's not a good quality and all...)

[SoldierOfDarkness]

It's like that in the real world. They cling onto a guy whose a complete jackass but believe that he's their ideal knight.

On that matter, it's nice they got things back but I kinda wished they did more battles and not the random gags before.

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Those FFF kamikaze guys, how does that work exactly? Since when can their beings self-destruct like that?

[ZeKeR]

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

It's like that in the real world. They cling onto a guy whose a complete jackass but believe that he's their ideal knight.

On that matter, it's nice they got things back but I kinda wished they did more battles and not the random gags before.

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Those FFF kamikaze guys, how does that work exactly? Since when can their beings self-destruct like that?

The F inquisition..... they are like suicide bombers.... they take themselves out but they wont be alone in suicide..... lololol

also METAL GEAR PARODY!!!!

[Photonbeam]

Spoiler for Episode 10:

Can I have the one where Yuuji's throwing mock exam test papers? Thanks.

[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by Sackett

No. Minami is a Tsundere. She uses violence to conceal her affection- and is generally a person with a temper towards everyone. Nor does she even adopt a Yamato Nadeshiko persona ever.
Shouko on the other hand is only violent towards her love interest (or rivals for that love interest). She fits the "Love makes you crazy" part of Yandere.

Ever seen Minami suplex anyone other than Aki? Nope, she only does it on him, much like the same way Shouko tasers only Yuuji.

In any case, Yandere ONLY harms their rivals for love, never their actual LI. Heck, vast majority of the time (if not all the time), its those rivals that are the cause of their mental instability. Shouko, like Minami, only hurts their LIs but don't even do anything to their rival-in-loves, which is essentially the anti-thesis of yandere.

I mean, look at...

Spoiler for list of people in which people are in general agreement who went Yandere:

Kaede from Shuffle
Kotonoha from School Days
Yuka from 11 eyes

These are examples of behaviour that exhibit Yandere... being mentally unstable against their rivals, but being dere for their LI.

Of course if you say that Yandere requires a concealment of those crazy tendencies behind a Yamato Nadeshiko exterior, then perhaps I can understand why you exclude Shouko. However, it is probably more accurate to say that Shouko went Yandere a long long time ago, and so her Yandere-ness was revealed previous to the start of the show- which is why her Yandere ways are open and obvious instead of being concealed. (Although even now Shouko still occasionally puts on a Yamato Nadeshiko surface.)

Nah, being Yamato Nadeshiko has nothing to do with it.

You're misunderstanding the term Yandere. Yandere is made up of two words (or so I'm told by my JP friends). Yan for being insane, and Dere for being 'lovey dovey'. While Dere can be a lot of things, it's Yan (or mental instability) we're interested in, because its what sets the archetype apart from stuff like Tsundere.

And is Shouko mentally unstable? Despite her extreme ways, there is NOTHING in the series to even hint that this is the case. Every thing she has done, she knew exactly what she was doing (keeping a taser in order not to let Yuuji run away), she knew perfectly well the consequences of her actions (intenionally failing her test to be in detention with Yuuji), and sometimes even planned her actions ahead of time (the whole date episode). All of these exhibit that there is nothing wrong with her state of mind at all.

If the character is not mentally unstable, then she can not be yandere in the first place. And once you start ignoring this CRUCIAL part of the term Yandere, then you're going to encompass characters like Minami and Shouko as Yandere when they're anything but.

[ZeKeR]

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Ever seen Minami suplex anyone other than Aki? Nope, she only does it on him, much like the same way Shouko tasers only Yuuji.

In any case, Yandere ONLY harms their rivals for love, never their actual LI. Heck, vast majority of the time (if not all the time), its those rivals that are the cause of their mental instability. Shouko, like Minami, only hurts their LIs but don't even do anything to their rival-in-loves, which is essentially the anti-thesis of yandere.

I mean, look at...

Spoiler for list of people in which people are in general agreement who went Yandere:

Kaede from Shuffle
Kotonoha from School Days
Yuka from 11 eyes

These are examples of behaviour that exhibit Yandere... being mentally unstable against their rivals, but being dere for their LI.



Nah, being Yamato Nadeshiko has nothing to do with it.

You're misunderstanding the term Yandere. Yandere is made up of two words (or so I'm told by my JP friends). Yan for being insane, and Dere for being 'lovey dovey'. While Dere can be a lot of things, it's Yan (or mental instability) we're interested in, because its what sets the archetype apart from stuff like Tsundere.

And is Shouko mentally unstable? Despite her extreme ways, there is NOTHING in the series to even hint that this is the case. Every thing she has done, she knew exactly what she was doing (keeping a taser in order not to let Yuuji run away), she knew perfectly well the consequences of her actions (intenionally failing her test to be in detention with Yuuji), and sometimes even planned her actions ahead of time (the whole date episode). All of these exhibit that there is nothing wrong with her state of mind at all.

If the character is not mentally unstable, then she can not be yandere in the first place. And once you start ignoring this CRUCIAL part of the term Yandere, then you're going to encompass characters like Minami and Shouko as Yandere when they're anything but.

well shouko WANTS yuuji to look at her and ONLY her.... this was evident in most episodes where she would poke his eyes so that he would not see anything.... the taser was there for many reasons... from keeping yuuji with her to zapping him because of act of 'infidelity towards your wife'

[orangejuicetang]

Episode 11... was for lack of a better term, 'very compressed'.

I suppose they kept the main points, but they skipped some pretty important things. Also, for some reason, did anyone else initially confuse Class C's rep with Hideyoshi's sister? Their names messed me up, and for a second I was like, "what the hell are you doing there!?"

[Willen]

With all this talk about Shouko and Minami, I'm reminded of a classic character that has the same "punish the one you love for improper behavior" modus operandi -- Lum from Urusei Yatsura. Although Lum would occasionally zap other people (usually they would be more as a result of collateral damage/stray fire), the majority of her electric attacks would be targeted at her "Darling" Ataru or in defending him (usually at).

It's been suggested that Lum be categorized as a tsundere character (maybe deretsun is better fitting), but I'm hesitant to call her as such. I think these labels are too constricting or too broad. In a way, the fact that Shouko (and Minami and even Himeji) don't fit into these archetypes easily (or at all) make them better characters. Stock tsundere/yandere/etc. characters are not very interesting to me.

[Kanon]

Really enjoyed episode 11. Been a while since we had some battles. Everything happened a bit too fast though, two battles in one episode... it's like they realized they forgot about the plot until now and decided to rush things. I'm looking forward to the battle with class A, Hopefully, it won't be rushed.

[Shiroth]

It's about time Akihisa had a awesome moment, and wow was that awesome.

Scene after the ED was so ef, yet again. Especially with those camera shots, and the sky porn.

Oh and "Excuse me, the subtitles are taken away my screentime." made me laugh so much.

[ZeKeR]

tomorrow will the sub come out

[majestix1988]

care to join them?



its over 9000!

it subs now...

[ZeKeR]

Originally Posted by majestix1988

care to join them?



its over 9000!

it subs now...

beware the F inquisition!!!!!

[tsunade666]

even so a suicidal that deal with 10K damage is unheard off. I wonder how things go that way. The damage they dealt with should be = to their current points but this is way over it.

[ZeKeR]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

even so a suicidal that deal with 10K damage is unheard off. I wonder how things go that way. The damage they dealt with should be = to their current points but this is way over it.

well they DID sacrifice their beings for attack

though the life is small the damage dealt by the attack is the count

[DragoonKain3]

Hmm... latest episode is basically volume 1's battles.

Overall, I actually liked this episode yet not being rotflcopter funny to me (probably because I already read the jokes). Must be because I loved the SRPG feel of the tactics, from the battlefield to the 'special attack' inserts to the battles itself. If they're going to save money on animation, might as well do it in style, no?

And Yuuji parodying Zanger Zonbolt? Hell yeah!

Originally Posted by ZeKeR

well shouko WANTS yuuji to look at her and ONLY her.... this was evident in most episodes where she would poke his eyes so that he would not see anything.... the taser was there for many reasons... from keeping yuuji with her to zapping him because of act of 'infidelity towards your wife'

And that's a sign of mental instability how? It really ain't so much different from Minami doing backbreakers on Yoshii when she heard from Himeji he was going out with an older woman back during the date episode.

Quite simply, just being excessively violent does not make a yandere. The cause of that violence must stem from the fact that the character in question must be insane, and the cause of that mental breakdown must be because of a rival-in-love.

So far, Shouko hasn't show even one hint of being even slightly insane (heck, the only one that can even be construed as having even temporary insanity would be Himeji, and even that isn't all too clear). And when a girl 'threatens' her status as Yuuji's GF, she doesn't start spiralling down to madness. No, all she does is put Yuuji to his place, which is not so different from other females who beat their LIs out of jealousy.

[Forbin]

Shouko isn't a YANDERE

She is an Extreme Stalker or the 'Cant Get Rid of them Girl'