Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 2 Discussion / Poll

[felix]

Originally Posted by Freelii

The 1st shot on my screen has the face almost completely black, you can't even make out the eye socket.

Oh I see. Um, so you mean to suggest the DVD might be brighter or something?

[Alaya]

Well if you decided to drop it out, remember to check the visual novel instead :P

[IfritTower]

Ok, now that I've seen the subs I can say that this episode was MUCH better than last weeks, and I liked last weeks. As a VN reader I already knew how things were going to turn out, but I still got shivers when goldenslaughterer started playing. This episode is when the fun starts, I can only imagine how awesome the next episodes are really going to be. A sure 9/10.

[lovelysan]

Originally Posted by Cats

Oh I see. Um, so you mean to suggest the DVD might be brighter or something?

Actually, I think she/he is suggesting that in the DVD's there might be... um... fillin' to the insides of the skulls. (in other words- ew, ew, ew, ew, ew ) .

[Freelii]

Originally Posted by lovelysan

Actually, I think she/he is suggesting that in the DVD's there might be... um... fillin' to the insides of the skulls. (in other words- ew, ew, ew, ew, ew ) .

If anyone has seen the manga, I think you might get what I mean

[felix]

Originally Posted by Freelii

If anyone has seen the manga, I think you might get what I mean

Now you go and make me curious. I went and dug it up (lol, its scanlated only up to this episode). Since it has already aired I suppose there's no issue, I'll just add a spoiler tag just to hide it from anyone who for whatever wierd reason doesn't want to see it. Anyway, you're talking about this right?

Spoiler for Manga version of the nightmare:

I think this is just difference in art style. Animation always requires some realism, on the manga though you can go all out.


Oh btw, are there pictures of other versions of this? just for comparison.

[Freelii]

Originally Posted by Cats

Anyway, you're talking about this right?

Spoiler for Manga version of the nightmare:

Bingo.

Actually, up to chapter 8 has been scanlated, which has some more shots from the shed scene: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=141

But that one chapter is further than the anime has gotten, so peruse at your own peril. Or wait a week.

Anyways, I think my only point was that if you filter out some of the darkness, some of the faces look more like those in the manga, which may or may not have been hidden on purpose. Is it fine like it is right now in the anime? Yep. Wouldn't want to scare too many people away, now would we?

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Cats

Oh btw, are there pictures of other versions of this? just for comparison.

No, so far, only the manga and anime medium show the corpses. Ryukishi preferred to rely on readers imagination and I believe he certainly can't imagine himself being able to draw these appropriately.

Well, unless you are talking about the Tati, which are as follow:

Spoiler for Game TIPS of the first 6:

[CeDeR]

maria is Evil...kind of annoying but fits perfectly the character.

[Karlson]

Man wtf at the "pro" stage act at the end there by Battler that better damn well have been intended. You know it's bad when your left thinking "english dubbers can do better than that".

Otherwise this episode has definitely hooked me into this series. Sure it might be a little early to start seeing things like what happened at the end there but it still left me engaged in what's happening all the same. I understand where the VN readers are coming from with what they see as far as pacing is concerned but as someone who hasn't read it yet, this episode's pacing was fine for me, I don't see where the problems are. I could see it in episode 1, but not here.

Originally Posted by USCPharmacist

Anyway I am more interested in reading what 1st time anime viewers think about the episode. I wonder if you guys are like the story so far and have any theory about what happened. The most fun part about Umineko is not just the story, but making up theory about the murders. I am sure some of you are beginning to become suspicious about Maria. hihihihihihihihih

Maria was strange when she read that letter but honestly I'm suspecting other people more than her right now for various reasons (likely crazy theories) from other events. Being suspiscious of Maria is what this show is trying to make me feel (and it's slightly succeeding admittedly) but most good mysteries tend to throw the idea of "expect the unexpected". I certainly think something is amiss with Maria no doubt about that, but I currently don't think she is playing an active role in these murders not with what this episode has given as information for me. She seems like she's been possessed by a demon reading that letter tho

I've been thinking about the events of this episode pretty extensively so I've come up with some pretty out there stuff to possibly make sense of what's going on and I actually wouldn't mind posting about them either now that we've finally started diving into the scene of mystery murders. Let's just say...I think there's maybe 3 or 4 people that I'm not suspiscious of right now, I guess that's to be expected when we're only at the second episode here. I'm gonna rewatch these episodes again tho before I decide to post everything that's come to mind for me up to this point. It's been a good week since I last watched the previous episode and there could be some connections made with other events in this episode that can tie in with the murders that I've missed by chance.

[Scython]

I don't know. I was looking forward to Maria's character but she's just too f*cked up for me to like.

Spoiler:

Like how she's all evil knievil during the letter scene and a few moments later she's all like 'whaa! ;_; nobody believes meh ;__________;'

[Tamad]

Maria's character is trying too hard to be "hey look at me I'm the villain!" Crazy and sporadic mood swings won't fool me, and I much prefer the cute and innocent Maria... minus the excessive "ooo" noises. Unfortunately, their plan won't fool me, unless it's their plan to make me think Maria is not the villain because they're trying so hard to portray her as one, thus I won't see it coming when she is revealed to actually be the... okay my head hurts.

Anyways, my thoughts on Episode 1-2 here.

[Ithekro]

I'm trying to remember what I was doing in October 1986...School it the only thing I can think of...but then I realized something...I'm the same age as Maria (or same age as she would be anyway).

Also realized that Horie Yui is also about that same age...in fact she's almost exactly one year older than I am, and thus about one year older than Maria would be as well. Weird that.

[Kuroko]

9/10
Suspance, even thou i already knew what was going to happen.

But they shortened that last scene FAR too much...

Spoiler for this episode:

'Twas one of the best scenes too imho...Jessica's screams plus Battler's rage/sadness with the dialogue 'tween George and his father at the end was just one of the best climaxes i've ever seen... Had me glued to the screen for a while when i read it... twice... And they chopped off more than half of it |:

Spoiler for game/manga, NEXT episode, maybe:

And they left out the fact that 6th's face was half-smashed, which is a potentially important fact, guess they'll cover it in 3rd episode...

And Maria's random creepy eyes were too random, imho, i even thought she had hyperopia at first

Spoiler:

At least there were no cliffhangers, had too many of these these days...

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

I'm trying to remember what I was doing in October 1986...School it the only thing I can think of...but then I realized something...I'm the same age as Maria (or same age as she would be anyway).

Also realized that Horie Yui is also about that same age...in fact she's almost exactly one year older than I am, and thus about one year older than Maria would be as well. Weird that.

Interesting how these things work out. Sadly all I can say about October 1986 was that I was waiting for the next month when I'd be born .

Still this was a pretty messy conclusion. Losing 6 people in one night is a pretty huge hit. Now I really want to know just what the heck happened? Hard to believe only one person was involved in the killing considering the numbers involved here. Unless they started killing each other and someone just finished things off.

My condolences to Shannon who gets proposed to one night and then is dead by the morning. Do wonder if wearing that ring had anything to do with the events leading to her death. Doubt a family like that would be very happy about the relationship between the maid and George.

Anyways doubt things are going to get much better. Of course sucks for the characters since they've already lost people they care about.

[Magicberyl]

can't wait for further "kihihiihihi" face caption.

[lovelysan]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

I'm trying to remember what I was doing in October 1986...School it the only thing I can think of...but then I realized something...I'm the same age as Maria (or same age as she would be anyway).

Also realized that Horie Yui is also about that same age...in fact she's almost exactly one year older than I am, and thus about one year older than Maria would be as well. Weird that.

I was thinking about what I was doing that year myself the other day. I was about five in 1986. Shall I call you Nee-chan/Nii-chan ?

[Sinn]

Maria was watching Higurashi...LoL and yeah she annoys me a lot =/

Why must they cencor their death scene Anyway, not bad, 7/10

[Marion]

Originally Posted by Sinn

Maria was watching Higurashi...LoL and yeah she annoys me a lot =/

Why must they cencor their death scene Anyway, not bad, 7/10

It wasn't censored, a lot of the original was just cut. Otherwise it wasn't bad.

[Sinn]

What i meant was what they were talking about up there actually Was hoping to see more gore.