(L) Infinite Stratos - Light Novel/Manga Discussion

[hayate-sama]

Ichika can call out his IS partially to deflect the bullet as byakku shiki always on him. A more important matters is what exactly Ichika is, somebody said that he didn't have any pictures of him until 5 years old, that mean Chifuyu may not related to him by bloody and that mean we can safely add the brocon factor to the harem

[larethian]

what is the science behind IS disappearing and appearing? are they in a pocket dimension?

[kuroishinigami]

Yea, pocket dimension. Technology wise, this series is a cheese for explanation(too many holes) so try to just ignore the explanation because one answer will lead to several further question XD.

And to hayate, when did Ichika starts to be that adept at controlling his IS :P. And Madoka is shooting him unexpectedly while he's still in a surprise state seeing Chifuyu's face, so let's see where the story bring us next volume.

[neowind]

Originally Posted by hayate-sama

Ichika can call out his IS partially to deflect the bullet as byakku shiki always on him. A more important matters is what exactly Ichika is, somebody said that he didn't have any pictures of him until 5 years old, that mean Chifuyu may not related to him by bloody and that mean we can safely add the brocon factor to the harem

omg he is alien! XD

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Ah yea, I somehow miss which person is talking. It's Tatenashi IS that used to be called "Deep Mist from Moskwa" and now called "Mysterious Lady" (Damn LN for not giving any indication who's speaking currently XD)

Edit : 1 day passed and no post beside mine O_O. Interest sure dies fast in this series XD. Oh well, time to finish the summary.

Spoiler for Summary Before:

Spoiler for Volume 6 chapter 4 last part and epilogue:

The scene's jump into Ichika's birthday party. The member that attend the party is bigger from the original plan. Aside from her harem, Dan and Ran, and his other male friend, Mitarai Kazuma, all the member of student council also joins, and so is newspaper club president Mayuzumi Kaoruko. His not so big living room is almost not enough for all of them. Because of Silent Zephyr's incident, Chifuyu and Yamada-sensei cannot attend his party, and even Ichika himself have to go through some inspection before being sent home.

Ran's present for Ichika is self-baked birthday cake. Ichika said it was delicious and comments that Ran will become a good wife for sure(such a natural gigolo XD). before the mood gets even better though, Rin butt in and hands Ichika her present, which is self-make Chashu Ramen. It looks like Rin and Ran has been fighting for Ichika attention(without him knowing of course) since their middle school day. When Ichika comments that Rin's ramen also taste good, she said she also is train to be a wife beside doing the representative candidate. Ichika just lightly say "is that so" and Rin get a little upset about that(since she trains to be a wife for Ichika :P)

Ichika then meets with Cecilia(who due to her injury is supposed to rest at the hospital for today, but refuse to because she doesn't want to miss the party). She gives Ichika a tea set as a present, and before she was able to invite Ichika for a tea together, Tatenashi interrupts and hug Ichika from behind, with her big asset pushing on Ichika's back. She also tell Ichika to comfort her broken heart(from losing to Scholl, but Ichika doesn't know that XD). Cecilia is of course upset, but when she hurts her hand trying to separate both of them, Ichika ends up feeding Cecilia cake.

Chal found them out, and Tatenashi take the satisfied Cecilia away to give room to Ichika and Chal. They both talk for a while and Ichika once again thanks Chal for the wristwatch, but after that change the topic about Phantom Task. Of course Chal is a little upset why only to her Ichika talk about something not girlish like that. They finish their talk and Ichika is captivated by her smile. Chal then said Laura wait for him in balcony.

Ichika then meets Laura, and she gives him her assault knife as his birthday present. Laura said something about giving a warrior like Ichika her weapon as a symbol of something(which I don't understand, what does giving another warrior a symbol of? asking for marriage?). And she runs away before Ichika asks what she means by that.

Next is Houki. She gives Ichika a kimono as a birthday present, although Ichika feels that this kimono is a lot more valuable than the hair ribbon Ichika gives as a birthday present to Houki. Houki said it's okay since she like the ribbon, and Ichika comments that he notice she wears the ribbon around 2 times a week, which makes Houki happy. Just as Houki about to ask Ichika for a date, they spot Dan and Utsuho awkwardly try to talk to each other(they met in vol 5 and kinda like each other). Dan and Utsuho ends up exchanging mail address and Houki tells Ichika to leave them alone since it rude to eavesdrop. Ichika accidentally hold Houki's hand when they run away, which of course make Houki happy.


Chapter 4 ends here and the epilogue is next

In the epilogue, Ichika is buying juice for everyone since the juices in his house run out. At first, Chal and the other doesn't want to let the birthday person to do that, but Ichika himself want to buy it for them since he's not doing anything particular at that time.

During the way back, he notices a shadow in front of him. When he clearly see it, what he thought it was his sister, but he realize she's younger than Chifuyu. The woman has the exact same face as Chifuyu during his teens.

"Chifuyu-nee..?" asks Ichika

"No. I am you Orimura Ichika." said the girl, "Thank you for today."

"Could you be Silent Zephyr's..."

"Yea, My name is..... Orimura Madoka"

"In order for me to be myself, I'll take your life.

Then she brings out a handgun that emit a dim light. And then Bang!....


It ends :P

That's all. Hope you enjoy my summary. Feedback is welcome so I can apply it when I do vol 5 summary or vol 7 summary next.

very nice great job on the summary^_^ i see now its going to have some drama! XD

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

I think there's a bit of symbolism involved. Seeing as the one that attacked him was "Chifuyu", there's definitely going to be some growing tension between the two, and may result in the final "separation" from his sister to find his own path and not under the shadow of his sister.

Of course, this may involve that Ichika may develop darker tendencies now. Oh please do!

i think its going to be pretty much. i want to know everything about my family. who is this other sister,and who am i really.

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Well, not going to speculate here since vol 7 is just 1 and a half month away(but 2 and a half month before my copy arrive T_T). I'll try to give a short summary of things one I get my hand on it before making a detailed one.

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.

Spoiler for omg:

that would be nice..but i think he going to add the drama. having him being shoot and laying down. just staying there while the girls party at the house. i guess the German girl will find him cause she will hear the noise .

[Master Assassin]

Originally Posted by hayate-sama

Ichika can call out his IS partially to deflect the bullet as byakku shiki always on him. A more important matters is what exactly Ichika is, somebody said that he didn't have any pictures of him until 5 years old, that mean Chifuyu may not related to him by bloody and that mean we can safely add the brocon factor to the harem

I like your line of thinking.

[Javiersansano]

Originally Posted by hayate-sama

Ichika can call out his IS partially to deflect the bullet as byakku shiki always on him. A more important matters is what exactly Ichika is, somebody said that he didn't have any pictures of him until 5 years old, that mean Chifuyu may not related to him by bloody and that mean we can safely add the brocon factor to the harem

where did you learn about that of NO PICTURES PRIOR TO FIVE YEARS OLD?

[hayate-sama]

Originally Posted by Javiersansano

where did you learn about that of NO PICTURES PRIOR TO FIVE YEARS OLD?

It is here, Kuroshinigami, could you confirm this.

And to hayate, when did Ichika starts to be that adept at controlling his IS :P. And Madoka is shooting him unexpectedly while he's still in a surprise state seeing Chifuyu's face, so let's see where the story bring us next volume.

Well, In ep 6, He was talking with Charlotte without his arm armors and Bayku Shiki wing. And he has been trained by Tatenashi so we could expect that out of him. However the novel only describe that there is a gunshot but where it was fired is not mentioned, which kind of gun emit a dim light before it shot . Well, at least Ichika got plot armor .

BTW is the anime follow the the Light novel closely ? as far as I can see all Illustration of Volume 2 up until now has been covered. But the charm of the Lightnovel is that they give us alot more inside about the characters Like zero no tsukaima ( the kissing scenes are very hot in the light novel ), Is there anything like this about IS ?

[Javiersansano]

thanks hayate

[kuroishinigami]

No no, the things that emit a dim light was the gun itself(I think, japanese sentence structure can be tricky like this XD), not because it was about to shoot, although I completely agree about the plot armor. And the novel has never said how far Ichika's progress now after being trained by Tatenashi, just that he progress a lot from the intensive training, so I can't confirm if he already gained this ability or not.

Can't confirm about the no picture things before 5 years old. I don't have that good of a memory and not in the mood to dig older volume just to search for one scene XD. If anybody knows which volume it is in, I can re-read it and confirm.

The light novel so far follows exactly the plot in the light novel, leaving only minor detail not worth fussing about(unlike Index' for example). More character inside is a given because unlike the anime, the light novel can easily change it's POV focus and plays the girl's monologue for instance, but nothing major that leaves me enough impression to say "Hey, they left this and this out of the anime"

[hayate-sama]

who do you guy think will be on the cover for volume 7 ?

My picks is Madoka/Chifuyu or Ichika with Byakku Shiki Setsura

Ran is possible but I think she isn't own a personal IS yet.

The cover format seem to follow hidan no Aria - A character per volume cover.

What do you guys think ?

BTW: kuroshinigami, is you a native japanese. If not, how long does it take you to be able to read LN ? i 'm studying japanese but only at beginning level

[thekin]

so could someone pls explain more about the phantom task, is the hole organization made up of yuri characters that want to take over the world and make yuri the new world order or is it just the leader that is yuri.

[kuroishinigami]

Originally Posted by hayate-sama

BTW: kuroshinigami, is you a native japanese. If not, how long does it take you to be able to read LN ? i 'm studying japanese but only at beginning level

I'm not native Japanese. How intensive are you learning Japanese currently? I started pretty long ago, around 8 years ago. But I wasn't that interested in foreign language at that time(high school students have no interest in studying at all XD), but at least I knew from the lesson I attend during that time how to read kana and how Japanese language grammar structure is.

After that, for 8 years I only learn sparingly from reading raw manga. It was a hassle looking through a lot of kanji from the stroke, but in manga, there's often some furigana to accompany it so with Dictionary and patience, I manage to remember a lot of vocab.

I started reading raw light novel around 3-4 years ago. Again, at first I have difficulty reading some kanji in there, but with dictionary's and patience help, I manage to finish the easy one in 3 hours(baka to test, for IS it's around 6-8 hours) without using dictionary now. Knowledge of chinese will be an advantage for the kanji, but not a must.

If you're intensively learning(and willing to learn extra vocabulary in your spare time in whatever form, whether it's reading raw manga, light novel, speaking with a Japanese friend, etc.) 2 years should be enough to read the easy one like this one, and maybe 3-4 years for the harder one(without dictionary, because the harder one often use the rarely used kanji or words).

Originally Posted by thekin

so could someone pls explain more about the phantom task, is the hole organization made up of yuri characters that want to take over the world and make yuri the new world order or is it just the leader that is yuri.

They're still a mysterious organization, taking IS from all over the world for an unknown reason. So far, only the leader, Squall, and one of the member is clearly yuri, although M(Orimura Madoka) seems to show such tendency toward Chifuyu. We'll have to wait for the next volume to see more info about them.

[hayate-sama]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

I'm not native Japanese. How intensive are you learning Japanese currently? I started pretty long ago, around 8 years ago. But I wasn't that interested in foreign language at that time(high school students have no interest in studying at all XD), but at least I knew from the lesson I attend during that time how to read kana and how Japanese language grammar structure is.

After that, for 8 years I only learn sparingly from reading raw manga. It was a hassle looking through a lot of kanji from the stroke, but in manga, there's often some furigana to accompany it so with Dictionary and patience, I manage to remember a lot of vocab.

I started reading raw light novel around 3-4 years ago. Again, at first I have difficulty reading some kanji in there, but with dictionary's and patience help, I manage to finish the easy one in 3 hours(baka to test, for IS it's around 6-8 hours) without using dictionary now. Knowledge of chinese will be an advantage for the kanji, but not a must.

If you're intensively learning(and willing to learn extra vocabulary in your spare time in whatever form, whether it's reading raw manga, light novel, speaking with a Japanese friend, etc.) 2 years should be enough to read the easy one like this one, and maybe 3-4 years for the harder one(without dictionary, because the harder one often use the rarely used kanji or words).

I 'm currently taking 3 classes a week, about 1 hour and a half a class, the first half will be taught by a japanese teacher, the later half is taught by a non native one. The course took about 2 years and a half. But I'm worry that I only stay in school for one year the I have to go to work . well thank for your information.

BTW, the cover for Bluray vol 1 is out , Houki look beautiful there

If it goes like this then the cover for volume 6 will be Ichika

[kaizerknight01]

chap 4 is out, while the anime is graphically Superior, i find the manga ver. pacing of story and delivery of the plot better

[ZeKeR]

so guys... in the harem, who has the actual lead?
im thinking of houki, but when the other girls came into the fray, its been chaotic...
so... who has?

[kuroishinigami]

no one is superior(well, Tatenashi control Ichika under her thumb when she's with him, not romantically though :P). They have more or less same exposure, and same development, although Houki is the only one who already tried to confess to him directly.

Originally Posted by hayate-sama

I 'm currently taking 3 classes a week, about 1 hour and a half a class, the first half will be taught by a japanese teacher, the later half is taught by a non native one. The course took about 2 years and a half. But I'm worry that I only stay in school for one year the I have to go to work . well thank for your information.

Well, like I said, I only have 1 year(I think less, more like 8 month) of formal lesson, 1 hour each week, but still manage to advance pretty well, enough to be able to understand native Japanese words and be able to speak to them(albeit with a messed up grammar, since thinking grammar on the fly is harder than when you listen or read). It's all depends on you. Even if you're already working(like me), I'm sure you can spend a little time after work or on weekends to read some raw manga chapter to increase your vocabulary. Although it will be slow, but little by little you will be able to read enough words and kanji to read light novel.

A little advice though, once you feel like trying to read a LN, try from the easy one(mostly Media Factory's one, or Baka to Test). Don't try to start from NishioishiN works or series that has a lot of technical words like Index(no problem on the prologue part, but once they start to explain all the symbology and pseudo-science, your head will start to spin because the sentences will become very long, and you'll find a lot of words that's normally never used in everyday conversation). I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it would take more works from looking up the kanji and words meaning in dictionary and that might lower your interest in continuing to learn(this is from personal experience though, so feel free to try if you want XD)

[falcolobo]

Hmm, after doing a little digging and using the infinite statos raws and a dicitonary apparently in Volume 4 Chapter 1 Rin and Ichika were old pictures and Rin said that the earliest picture was of Ichika in first grade, nothing before that. Kuro would you please go over that? Apparently Rin reasoned that it was because Ichika and Chifuyuu's parents might have been in the earlier pictures.

[Javiersansano]

Maybe the reason there areno pictures prior to 5 years old, is because said pictures would reveal a hypothetical twins relationship between Ichika and Madoka, but said hypothesis would falther, because there is no way a five tears old could'n remember his own twin.

[ZeKeR]

or probably due to military secrets.... hell the government can even erase your registry and all of your past lives to live....

[kuroishinigami]

Originally Posted by falcolobo

Hmm, after doing a little digging and using the infinite statos raws and a dicitonary apparently in Volume 4 Chapter 1 Rin and Ichika were old pictures and Rin said that the earliest picture was of Ichika in first grade, nothing before that. Kuro would you please go over that? Apparently Rin reasoned that it was because Ichika and Chifuyuu's parents might have been in the earlier pictures.

Checking the raw again, that seems to be the case. Chifuyu doesn't put any picture prior to 1st grade of elementary school in the album, but the last picture put there is also during Ichika's 2nd year on junior high(the last picture is picture together with Rin and Chifuyu before Rin move out).