(L) D.Gray-Man

[King Lycan]

Jasdebi i think is 1 Noah which can solidify her/him 2 personalities

[DmonHiro]

Spoiler:

What are the actaull chances for Road beeing dead, and STAYING dead? I'm thinking close to none

[~ Lawliet ~]

I read something along the lines of 20 chapters. It was quite interesting, although I have no plans to be getting back to it any time soon.

[King Lycan]

And why is that

[DmonHiro]

Originally Posted by ~ Lawliet ~

I read something along the lines of 20 chapters. It was quite interesting, although I have no plans to be getting back to it any time soon.

I'm going to call that a very bad move, unless you don't like the gender. If you like the gender but thought is was broing...boy are you missing out. I read chapters 90-129 TWICE and I still can't get enough of it.

Spoiler:

Thank God they didn't kill Fou......she was soo cute

[King Lycan]

Well I Just Read Chapter 131 and D Gray Man Rocks
And Cant Wait The See The "The Fourteenth"

[Guido]

Have seen chapter 131 now.

Spoiler for Chapter 131:

Just speculation but the anime has given a faint hint that they'll be adapting up to the latest volume.

Where do I have proofs to state that hypothesis?
The shape of the Earl's new ark seems like a cube, whose components have not finished downloading.

If any of you is watching the anime and paid attention to the new opening, there's a shot in it that features Bookman, Marie, and Miranda looking up at a golden, luminous object at the sky which quite more or less resembles a cube.

This chapter has an alike page with those outside of the ark looking at the new ark at the sky.

If my speculation turns true in about five months, assuming that the producers would like to extend the anime for another three months, that would mean that the producers have already planned beforehand to follow the manga all the way

Now to discuss the chapter.

My! D.Gray-man manga is starting to look slightly alike to My-Otome anime. I mean the Earl uses this organ-machine device around the Egg to create the akuma bodies, and the only one who can shut down the machine is the musician and the key.
So to speak the elusive fourteenth Noah whom Cross mentioned the previous chapter.

And I now know how the puzzle pieces are falling to the places that they fit.

Is there a possible connection between Lenalee and Allen, since he visited her dream?

But what's more intriguing was the figure that Allen saw in Lenalee's dream.
And now I have reasons to believe that the hand that Lenalee saw in her prophetic dream did not belong to Allen, but perhaps the fourteenth?

But for a plot twist Cross pushes on that Allen's the only one who can shut the akuma machine, and what's more the shadow figure who stand before him at the hidden room mean that Timcampy is the key

Could it be that Allen is the fourteenth Noah?

Or may be that Allen is carrying something within him passed on by someone else previously?

I have read theories that Mana could have been or not a Noah; more specific the traitor Noah.

As of now nothing else has the manga-ka developed about Mana, save that he found and adopted Allen; resurrected back as an akuma by Allen; and just speculation that his soul (the skull) lives in Allen's cursed eye.

My draft hypothesis before next chapter comes is that Mana may have or not been the fourteenth Noah to awake in the story's present timeline, however, he died before the Noah powers manifested on him.
The Noah powers likely could have been transferred to Allen when the akuma Noah slashed his left eye; and the mana skull materializing outside of Allen's cursed eye during the fight with Eliade is the remnant of those powers, thus making Allen the successor to the 14th or specifically the new 14th Noah.

Pretty wild speculation I posted.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Guido

Have seen chapter 131 now.

Spoiler for Chapter 131:

Just speculation but the anime has given a faint hint that they'll be adapting up to the latest volume.

Where do I have proofs to state that hypothesis?
The shape of the Earl's new ark seems like a cube, whose components have not finished downloading.

If any of you is watching the anime and paid attention to the new opening, there's a shot in it that features Bookman, Marie, and Miranda looking up at a golden, luminous object at the sky which quite more or less resembles a cube.

This chapter has an alike page with those outside of the ark looking at the new ark at the sky.

If my speculation turns true in about five months, assuming that the producers would like to extend the anime for another three months, that would mean that the producers have already planned beforehand to follow the manga all the way

Now to discuss the chapter.

My! D.Gray-man manga is starting to look slightly alike to My-Otome anime. I mean the Earl uses this organ-machine device around the Egg to create the akuma bodies, and the only one who can shut down the machine is the musician and the key.
So to speak the elusive fourteenth Noah whom Cross mentioned the previous chapter.

And I now know how the puzzle pieces are falling to the places that they fit.

Is there a possible connection between Lenalee and Allen, since he visited her dream?

But what's more intriguing was the figure that Allen saw in Lenalee's dream.
And now I have reasons to believe that the hand that Lenalee saw in her prophetic dream did not belong to Allen, but perhaps the fourteenth?

But for a plot twist Cross pushes on that Allen's the only one who can shut the akuma machine, and what's more the shadow figure who stand before him at the hidden room mean that Timcampy is the key

Could it be that Allen is the fourteenth Noah?

Or may be that Allen is carrying something within him passed on by someone else previously?

I have read theories that Mana could have been or not a Noah; more specific the traitor Noah.

As of now nothing else has the manga-ka developed about Mana, save that he found and adopted Allen; resurrected back as an akuma by Allen; and just speculation that his soul (the skull) lives in Allen's cursed eye.

My draft hypothesis before next chapter comes is that Mana may have or not been the fourteenth Noah to awake in the story's present timeline, however, he died before the Noah powers manifested on him.
The Noah powers likely could have been transferred to Allen when the akuma Noah slashed his left eye; and the mana skull materializing outside of Allen's cursed eye during the fight with Eliade is the remnant of those powers, thus making Allen the successor to the 14th or specifically the new 14th Noah.

Pretty wild speculation I posted.

Spoiler for latest chap:

1) Wow, Allen sure is called alot of things huh ?

"Destroyer of Time", "The White Clown/Devil"... "Bean-spout" Now in addition to being a clown, he's also a musician?

2) And yeah, I've drawn that conclusion as well that the Anime is in fact following the manga closely, or at least attempting to. A dead give away is the organ and the new Ark in the OP... I had wondered why I never saw those before

3) Allen and Lenalee's hidden connection intrigues me greatly. One is suspected to be the Heart of all Innocence, while the other is suspected to be the one who will defeat the Millennium Earl...

They have just got to end up together by the end of this series (After Lenalee grows her hair back... Or Maybe Cross or Miranda have some voodoo to speed up the process )

Another interesting connection is the dream world which the two of them share. Looking back at the older chapters, it seems that both Lenalee and Allen are in parallel opposite worlds, Allen's has a white moon, while Lenalee's has a black moon.

One more thing, that looks like Allen's body behind a crying Lenalee in that Op...

Interesting theory you have there about the 14th... But is it possible for a person to be on both sides?

[Leon_Lelouch]

Maybe.... because Allen is kinda special....
And he said that one part for the innocence and the other part of him is for human.....
and Noah is human, so maybe that human part of him is his Noah

[HurricaneHige]

i dunno...but i think Allen and Lenali will end up together by the end

romance aside, i always thought Cross was the direct decentant of the 14th, but man...this sure was a shock lol

i suspect that the heart may not be only one innocence, but it may be created by combining the two (allen and Lenali's), that would explain the shared dream @_@

[Guido]

Episode 132 came yesterday, and the revelations that unraveled were unexpected but welcoming to me.

Spoiler:

The Musician

The shadow at the fourteenth's room disclosed that both Allen and Timcampy are the musician. It is the same shadow which blocked Allen's path when he visited Lenalee's dream.

From Timcampy emerged a musical score which are the piano keys that Allen must play to stop the downloading of the ark. Cross communicates with him via wireless to stop wasting time and do it. If Allen succeeds, the General is going to spare the debts to the student, although Cross made no promises on that matter.

What is suspicious is the image of the score that Timcampy projects, which visually looks or resembles an emblem shield or heart.

Allen starts to play the piano but looks that the Earl has won due that the former ark totally vanished. Inside the Earl's quarters within the new ark a girl in the shadows, which suspciously looks like Road, asks why he was so worried about the fourteenth to have gone on such great lengths to destroy the old ark. A woman appears from behind the girl and makes the observation that, although the Earl is happy, he's in fact crying.
The Earl in response washes off the woman's comments, who turns out to be none other than Lulubell, and plays the keyboard making the new Ark to move, disappearing in a flash.

At the ruins of Edo Miranda cries non-stop, blaming herself for not being able to do a proper job; Marie and Bookman grieve for the loss of Kanda, Lavi, Chaoji, Krory, Lenalee, and Allen.

But, suddenly she, Bookman, Marie, and Tiedoll watch the sky as a white glow materializes. It is the old Ark that has started to reintegrate and reconstruct itself wall by wall, brick by brick, room by room. Lavi wakes up along with Chaoji confused with his surroundings; Kanda does as well, shocked to see the Ark restored; Krory's unconscious body lies asleep in the Jas&Devi room.

Comments on the chapter:
1. Lulubell has officially made her appearance in the manga, and what's more she is the Lulubell from the anime that all of us know. I can assume that the author may have or not took a liking with Lulubell in the anime and chose to make her canon in the manga.

2. It is pretty much obvious that the girl is in fact Road, and yes, she's still alive. Henceforth, it is not unfathomable to assume as well that Skin may have been brought back.
Tykki was rescued by the Earl; and anime has proved the principle that "no dead body found means no death", as in the aftermath of the battle with Krory both Jas&Devi fell into the doorway, but their bodies were never found.

[HurricaneHige]

Man Dgrayman is wicked :P

Spoiler for manga:

i mean, didn't Cross say that if the egg is downloaded its all over, somehow the ark reconstructed itself @_@, it remains to be seen y that happened.
on the side, I wonder wats going to happen from now on, wat else can the Musician do aside from controlling the ark? Does Allen possess the same power as the Noahs?

[The Chaos]

so I am still at THe anime Ep52

which chap would that be ??
THE Manga Look So Cool

[HurricaneHige]

we are at about....48, ya the anime is far far far far far behind

too much filler

[MUAHAHAHAHAHA]

Didn't lavi also express interest in Lenalee?Lenalee also have another secret admirer at the Asian Branch HQ.

I wonder when chapter 133 is coming out.The events in chapter 132 are great,but a lot of question are unanswered.I hope the manga doesnt end there.

I almost got heart attack when i was reading chapter 131,but chap 132 smoothed things over.I thought

Spoiler:

everyone die but then Allen play that piano-like-thing and the Ark and everything inside is restored again.Oh seeing Kanda's face is a huge relief.Let's see,what will happen to Tyki from now on?Btw,Cross is trying to take advantage from Lenalee.Wonder if he is aware that Allen may have a thing for Lenalee.Something tells me that Cross is going to excape right after everything is over and begin looking for new rich ladies.I hope after this arc,there will be something lighter.

[HurricaneHige]

Lavi doesnt have any interest in Lenalee, they are merely good friends, we are unclear as to the relationship between Allen and Lenalee as well, it seems they care for each other very much, but the only explicit interest is the dude from Asian branch. Allen's too focus on the Earl and I think we are seeing more and more evidence that Lenalee is actually interested in Allen, remember some of the evidences should be disregard prior to the boat to Japan, since we know that Lenalee is overly protective for her friends.

[MUAHAHAHAHAHA]

Spoilers for chapter 133.Credits to Defade from mangahelpers.Someone in 2chan has confirm this but then dont count on it too much since fake spoilers has been confirmed before.*sigh*

Spoiler:

夢をみた

１４番目のノアは箱舟の奏者であったが同時にエクソシストでもあった。
自身の運命と使命にはさまれた彼が心を許したのがクロスである。しかし
１４番目のノアは伯爵にころされてしまうが彼はティムに楽譜を残しクロスに
資格を与えた。んでなんかノアのメモリーは死んだらまたあらたな人間に
受け継がれるがそれがアレンらしい。裏切りを司るノアでクロスは資格を所持
していても奏者にはなれないらしい。アレンの剣が伯爵のと似ているのも
メモリーに触発されたイノセンスの呪いらしい。
そして　最後は伯爵のアップ　
｢ボブルの塔が完成したときわれわれに至福千年
がおとずれます。アクマや箱舟はそのための布石でしかありませ～ん｣といって終了
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ボブルの塔じゃなくてバベルの塔だったすまん。
ドラクエ５と混同した汗
やっぱりあれはルル＝ベルっぽいよ！名前はでてないがアニメといっしょの顔
だった
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１４番目のノアの名は　セイント・クリストファーだった。
ジャンプの出版数かなり減った。人気さがってんじゃないの
ジャンプ・・・
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I saw a dream.

The fourteenth, as well as being a Noah, was an exorcist.
Caught between his own destiny and duty, the one who forgave its(there was no subject in the original spoiler, and we still don't know the gender of the traitor Noah, so there you go, 'it' Noah) heart was Cross. But it was killed by the Earl, though it left its sheet music in Timcanpi and gave the Controller's rights to Cross. It also seems like that whenever a Noah dies, his memory lives on and finds another host. That host was Allen. Cross, who was behind the Noah's betrayal possesed the rights, but even then he cannot become the Controller. The fact that Allen's sword resembles the Earl's is due to the memory activating the Innocence's curse.

And lastly there was the Earl.

"When the Bobul(which was actually a typo on the dreamgazer's part, it's supposed to be Babel) Tower is completed, the time of rejoicing will come to us. Both the akuma and the box is merely the stepping stones for this~" it ended with the Earl saying that.
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abbv. basically the dreamgazer pointing out his/her Bobul typo
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The name of the 14th Noah is Saint Christopher (me: *pft*)
Jump seems to have decreased in the publishing number...popularity has decreased it seems...
Jump...
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LOL@Bobul Tower and Saint Christopher. While the former dream seemed pretty believable, I don't really want to believe the Saint Christopher part.

I don't get it. But each time I try to imagine a Noah with the name Saint Christopher, I get funny images in the mind.

But does that mean that, while you can utterly shatter and destroy a Noah's physical body, the memory will live on forever? And apparently Allen's sword's malfunctioning has something to do with a curse of the Noah's memory?(or maybe he got the sword's function wrong? Maybe it's supposed to destroy the Noah's memory so that it can't reincarnate itself anymore?)

If the spoilers are true,that may explain why Allen's sword didn't carry out its job.An interesting story twist,being

Spoiler:

both an Exorcist and Noah

[ser4]

i was just wondering is there a substantial difference between anime and manga cuz i was wondering whether to start reading from the beginning or to where the anime is right now

[HurricaneHige]

the anime is currently at chap 48-49, read previous post before asking a question please =/

and the anime follows the manga pretty well, if u take out the fillers, which is like half the season @_@

[King Lycan]

Yea i stopped watching the anime after that exorcist with a soccer ball died