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Old 2015-07-26, 14:44   Link #221
Bonta Kun
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WOOT! My last Myogi gameplay was the best so far.

I managed the wreck Langley down with a citadel hit from my third salvo, and I nearly sunk a Kawachi at the brawling range until a cruiser finished it. And now I finally bought Kongou~!

My another decent Myogi gameplay was that I hit Houshou twice simultaneously right into the engine room and probably the hangar bay.

Aahh, my sweet revenge against CVs has fulfilled at last.

Still have no idea how to screenshot the report, though.
If you have steam, add the game to your library and start from steam, then you can use F12 to take screenshots(or whatever key you assigned for screenshots)
And if you don't have steam then I advise to get it, even if you don't want to buy any games off it, it's a good platform to work and use with gaming.

Have fun with Kongou, she's a mighty good ship!

Any EU players want to add me, IGN is Bonta3000.
best to make a post here so I know who you are.
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Old 2015-07-26, 16:01   Link #222
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If a CV knows what they're doing and manual drop they one shot a BB with zero chance of the BB dodging.
Depends heavily on which CV and which BB, and it's not necessary tier-dependent. I know that when I'm playing Langley (tier 4), even a full torper hit only deals half of the Kawachi's (tier 3) HP in damage. Some BBs are also surprisingly maneuverable.

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I still hate those BB players going into narrow passages and getting torped by DD. Instead of helping the team in the more open space battles he goes there to die.
Depending on the BB, it may not even just be a viable strategy but sometimes even unquestionably the best strategy. For example, the Kawachi has only just over 9km of range fully upgraded, making it useless in open sea battles, but it can tank a lot of torps and completely shreds things with its secondary battery. Whenever I play Kawachi I head to the places that provide most island cover because that's just how the Kawachi works despite being a BB.
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Old 2015-07-26, 16:21   Link #223
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I've had the most success with Kawachi using her as sacrificial ship. Meaning steaming into some place where battles tend to get into closer ranges, then fix the rudder, draw circles into the sea and fire off. With two of her turrets to each side you are never in a position where you can't fire. Of course with this strategy you will get sunk sooner or later.
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Old 2015-07-26, 18:14   Link #224
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Depends heavily on which CV and which BB, and it's not necessary tier-dependent. I know that when I'm playing Langley (tier 4), even a full torper hit only deals half of the Kawachi's (tier 3) HP in damage. Some BBs are also surprisingly maneuverable.
Langley full torp hit is 43k damage top end it's enough to one one shot a Kawachi.
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Old 2015-07-27, 04:30   Link #225
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After playing a good games with Myogi yesterday, I realize that Myogi is actually pretty good as a carrier hunter. Maybe battlecruisers are ideal for this purpose. I never felt so amazing and rewarding for striking a citadels on CVs. xD
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Old 2015-07-27, 05:36   Link #226
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For that you need to circle around half the map first and hope that the enemy doesn't protect the CVs though. And then your firepower may be missing at the crucial spots. DDs may be better suited for that. And I think getting citadel hits on CVs is pretty easy, I remember getting heaps and loads of them when using HE of a cruiser. They burn like matchsticks.
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Old 2015-07-27, 07:57   Link #227
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Langley full torp hit is 43k damage top end it's enough to one one shot a Kawachi.
That's the theoretical damage. In practice, the damage is always lower even on full hit. And with 39k HP, the Kawachi will survive even it's a very slight reduction.
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Old 2015-07-27, 08:00   Link #228
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For that you need to circle around half the map first and hope that the enemy doesn't protect the CVs though. And then your firepower may be missing at the crucial spots. DDs may be better suited for that. And I think getting citadel hits on CVs is pretty easy, I remember getting heaps and loads of them when using HE of a cruiser. They burn like matchsticks.
Not only that, but also make good use of its wide observation range to spot targets for my team. The best opportunity is going with escorts and attack a CVs when I have the best chance while the escorts are busy diverting others attention from my position. When I realized that I had no chance against BBs, then I find another way. And this is what I found.
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Old 2015-07-27, 09:14   Link #229
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Depending on the BB, it may not even just be a viable strategy but sometimes even unquestionably the best strategy. For example, the Kawachi has only just over 9km of range fully upgraded, making it useless in open sea battles, but it can tank a lot of torps and completely shreds things with its secondary battery. Whenever I play Kawachi I head to the places that provide most island cover because that's just how the Kawachi works despite being a BB.
I don't remember the map names. Like that map with a huge mountain in the bottom left corner where that part has a lot of tight passage ways.

BB's are supposed to go up in the top right section and not in the tight passage ways. Every time I see one BB going there I see them die from torps.
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Old 2015-07-27, 21:07   Link #230
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http://www.kinguin.net/category/1781...us-bonus-code/

This is for anyone on the NA server/account. I missed the ball yesterday when it was like $3.24 for the bundle. But even at $9.77 I think it was a fair deal.
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Old 2015-08-01, 16:30   Link #231
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I must say the Cleveland is everything Jingles said and more. Got's plenty of firepower, good speed and can take a relative beating. But that AA is glorious especially with the AA enhancement. Knocking squadrons out of the air like nobody's business. Its also nice to have a true WWII era ship vs the pre and dreadnought era ships you begin with.

Also be sure to put in code ALBANY (I'm sure everyone here has though) for your free Tier II ALBANY cruiser. I really had no interest in the ship, but the extra port slot and 375k the ship was worth got me my Cleveland.
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Old 2015-08-01, 16:59   Link #232
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I found the Cleveland pretty crappy to be honest, Guns where awful really low velocity means it's easy to dodge a Cleveland shooting at you.

The AA is also meh it's only really useful with the defensive fire skill and the tier 3 captain skill that increases AA range by 20%, other than that it doesn't tend to do much unless the CV player attention is else where and leaves a squadron hovering near you or passing over you.
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Old 2015-08-02, 08:20   Link #233
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Speaking of Cleveland, how about Atlanta?
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Old 2015-08-02, 14:03   Link #234
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I can't for my life get my head around at how to play with Kawachi. It's like everything outrange me, and they all can run faster than me. The only thing I could do is hoping they are busy dealing with my teammate and I can sneak around closer to them.
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Old 2015-08-02, 14:40   Link #235
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I can't for my life get my head around at how to play with Kawachi. It's like everything outrange me, and they all can run faster than me. The only thing I could do is hoping they are busy dealing with my teammate and I can sneak around closer to them.
Yea thats the game plan with Kawachi, best to try and sneak up on others while they are busy shooting at others.
Your really best off sticking with your team as much as possible and sneaking as many hits as you can, no need to go for unnecessary kills.
Try for simply getting more hits than sinking others.

But the Kawachi is seriously lacking in pretty much everything, the only benefit is it has guns all around but you will more than likely be out ranged by everything else you go against.
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Old 2015-08-02, 15:47   Link #236
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Also be sure to put in code ALBANY (I'm sure everyone here has though) for your free Tier II ALBANY cruiser.
Nope, I hadn't heard of this before. Thanks for the code.
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Old 2015-08-02, 23:25   Link #237
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BB beginners guide for dummies: Kawachi for close range ambush and brawling. Bad dispersion means you need to get up close and personal. #trollface
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Old 2015-08-02, 23:54   Link #238
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Man why are my best games when I can sink like 4 ships are always the ones my team loses on...
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Old 2015-08-03, 04:05   Link #239
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I can't for my life get my head around at how to play with Kawachi. It's like everything outrange me, and they all can run faster than me. The only thing I could do is hoping they are busy dealing with my teammate and I can sneak around closer to them.
Go Kamikaze. Set yourself up in a place where the range advantage of enemy ships is nullified, fix your rudder to drive in circles and then fire off. Use the crappy fact that half of Kawachi's guns can only shoot to one side to your advantage.

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Man why are my best games when I can sink like 4 ships are always the ones my team loses on...
That's what I'm asking myself too...
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Old 2015-08-03, 06:27   Link #240
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Nah, these Kawachi strats are fine and all but I will tell you the true ultimate Kawachi strat. It's to play the Murmansk and then convert free exp off of it to skip Kawachi. Murmansk best tier 3 IJN BB.
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