The Raki discussion

[Ryus]

Originally Posted by MisterJB

I had never noticed that the Yoma had tried to dodge.

Good Job.

Thanks!

[Arturro]

Originally Posted by Ryus

Minus the fact that Raki opening move was clearly a torso cut that the Yoma sidestepped. I pretty much agree, except that for the fact that the best way to killing a yoma being a surprise attack first strike that cuts the yoma in two or is a "head hit." Failing that, then limbs are the next best target. You are very right about the difficulty in a straight blade cutting a body in half though, but what Raki attempted was just that, odd come to think about it. Did Yagi mess up? Is Raki that strong? Is that Isley's old sword? Did Raki know that the yoma would dodge like he did?

Spoiler for Raki's sword swing:

Interesting observation. I doubt that Raki tried to cut Yoma in half from that position, it's close to impossible with any kind of weapon. He might tried to execute "scottish cut" - a cut in balls. As far az we know yoma has balls, and if that kind of hit is as painful for them as for any male, such hit has a lots of sense.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by Arturro

Interesting observation. I doubt that Raki tried to cut Yoma in half from that position, it's close to impossible with any kind of weapon. He might tried to execute "scottish cut" - a cut in balls. As far az we know yoma has balls, and if that kind of hit is as painful for them as for any male, such hit has a lots of sense.

Roflmao, I really doubt such a thing will happen in the manga Arturro, seems pretty silly and takes away from the seriousness; Yoma don't have any regardlessly in their natural form, only when they eat and take a human host body. Like all Yoma and Awakened, they probably manipulate their insides to make attacking such a spot ineffective.

[MisterJB]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Roflmao, I really doubt such a thing will happen in the manga Arturro, seems pretty silly and takes away from the seriousness; Yoma don't have any regardlessly in their natural form, only when they eat and take a human host body. Like all Yoma and Awakened, they probably manipulate their insides to make attacking such a spot ineffective.

Not really. If you check the original japanese pages you can see sexual organs on the Yoma that Clare killed in Rabona and the ones that attacked her inside Riful's cave.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by MisterJB

Not really. If you check the original japanese pages you can see sexual organs on the Yoma that Clare killed in Rabona and the ones that attacked her inside Riful's cave.

Well, a quick OM check at Witches Maw, I don't see anything. All the Yoma in that tunnel wore pants, though I guess I can see a slight bulge.

Regardless, that's not the point. Obviously they have the organs when they take on human form(how that one Yoma raped Claire), but even if they do have them naturally, they probably manipulate their nerves to make hitting that spot useless.

I'm gonna laugh, groan, blink.........really, I don't know what I'm gonna do if I see somebody kicking them like that

[-Sho-]

Dunno why do you blame him . Yes , he's just a kid after all .Come on don't act like you will be strong people if you were in his place ... just have in the first place you family killed and you'll see what is it . Dunno if you will be still alive in his place .
Well , now he looks more mature .

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by -Sho-

Dunno why do you blame him . Yes , he's just a kid after all .Come on don't act like you will be strong people if you were in his place ... just have in the first place you family killed and you'll see what is it . Dunno if you will be still alive in his place .
Well , now he looks more mature .

Sho, it's probably best to quote the person you're replying too

I don't know who you're talking too

[shogun01]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Well, a quick OM check at Witches Maw, I don't see anything. All the Yoma in that tunnel wore pants, though I guess I can see a slight bulge.

You won't see them on OM, since those earlier chapters were coming from the international versions of the Graphic Novels. All of which had the questionable content removed.

In the Rabona arc, the mummy Yoma had a penis. It was a quick draw in for a gag than anything else, but he had one.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by shogun01

You won't see them on OM, since those earlier chapters were coming from the international versions of the Graphic Novels. All of which had the questionable content removed.

In the Rabona arc, the mummy Yoma had a penis. It was a quick draw in for a gag than anything else, but he had one.

Well, I can't find it; tried looking elsewhere and still haven't found it.

........, funny that I'm going through this effort trying to find pictures of this

[camilla]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Well, a quick OM check at Witches Maw, I don't see anything. All the Yoma in that tunnel wore pants, though I guess I can see a slight bulge.

Yomas aren't asexual creatures. VIZ has photoshopped their genitals out. Try with the group of them that attacked Clarice and Miata. Use the raws.

[Arturro]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Roflmao, I really doubt such a thing will happen in the manga Arturro, seems pretty silly and takes away from the seriousness; Yoma don't have any regardlessly in their natural form, only when they eat and take a human host body. Like all Yoma and Awakened, they probably manipulate their insides to make attacking such a spot ineffective.

Yoma does have a sexual organs - it's hard to rape someone without a penis. Yoma possesing Clares brother has tried to rape her (or even actually raped).

Also that kind of cut were commonly used. When you are fightning with someone in armour it's wise to attack those parts of his body, which are uncovered. Groin is one of those parts. Also any attack in groin is life threatening.

[MisterJB]

I fail to see why we are talking about Yoma's organs in a thread about Raki but here is one of the images that was censured and another that wasn't.
I can't really remember about the Yomas that attacked Clarice.
It makes perfect sense that the Yoma have sexual organ. The Org is trying to put fear into the villagers and worse than being eaten alive is being raped, and then eaten alive.

Spoiler for Yoma's parts:

[Shiek927]

Yoma does have a sexual organs - it's hard to rape someone without a penis. Yoma possesing Clares brother has tried to rape her (or even actually raped).

Then we can assume it was the brother's, and wasn't the Yoma's.

I don't know; I saw the bulge, I don't know what I expected

Nevertheless, despite it all, I still think Yoma are not capable of fertility or sexual production in any way, it would be disaster waiting to happen.

Going with this line of thinking, why would they have genitalia at all then? I doubt they piss.

....And why ARE we talking about this here? XDXD, it's not a bad topic, but why the Raki thread?

[Arturro]

It's debate about Raki fencing style and abilites. IMHO Raki is a bastard sword (large one) user, and he is, probably, at swordmaster level. His fight with Yoma looked like he used well trained and effective combo of attack against Yoma. Ryus suggested that Raki tried with his first attack to cut Yoma in half - which is not very smart, while I believe he tried to exetute "scottish cut", which is a smart move if Yoma has sexual organs.

I've read that Yagi is interested in martial arts, including fencing, so he should know how to fight with bastard sword, and so - to draw it.

[Shiek927]

His fight with Yoma looked like he used well trained and effective combo of attack against Yoma. Ryus suggested that Raki tried with his first attack to cut Yoma in half - which is not very smart

Why not? that's what he essentially did by cutting off his legs; but slicing the torso, he's extremely hindering it's ability to escape, forcing it to hobble away with it's arms. Considering the people close to it in the initial attack and the size of his sword, he probably didn't go for a headslice because he'd probably harm bystanders.

[sonotme_9FedriqSama]

Originally Posted by MisterJB

Not really. If you check the original japanese pages you can see sexual organs on the Yoma that Clare killed in Rabona and the ones that attacked her inside Riful's cave.

hmm...genitalia....interesting for knowing yoma biology...

Yeah...I've checked them they are cencored in Viz comics...dunno why they do that....showing boobs...not dicks...not like I want to see...

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Then we can assume it was the brother's, and wasn't the Yoma's.

I don't know; I saw the bulge, I don't know what I expected

Nevertheless, despite it all, I still think Yoma are not capable of fertility or sexual production in any way, it would be disaster waiting to happen.

Going with this line of thinking, why would they have genitalia at all then? I doubt they piss.

....And why ARE we talking about this here? XDXD, it's not a bad topic, but why the Raki thread?

lol...yea that was her brother...he was even crying...wait I take that back it was yoma only...yoma take on only memories and eat away the body....And like clare said "a yoma in disguise can even fool family"

If youma could fertizile...there would be baby yomas as well running around not just adults....
Raki=dickhead....may be thats why we are discussing here....

Okay I take that back....ppl will hate me for hating raki....

[MisterJB]

Originally Posted by sonotme_9FedriqSama

lol...yea that was her brother...he was even crying...

If youma could fertizile...there would be baby yomas as well running around not just adults....

No, that was a Yoma using the body of her brother. It was the memories of Clare's brother that made the Yoma cry.
It happened the same thing with Zaki, Raki's brother.


The Yomas can have a penis and be steriles. I've already pointed why the Org would put them that.
It's all about inducing fear.

[Shiek927]

If youma could fertizile...there would be baby yomas as well running around not just adults....

Which is stupid; the Organization creates the Yoma; it would be a complete disaster if they were actually capable of reproducing on their own, whether asexually or otherwise. I've already accepted that they do have genetalia, but they simply must be sterile.

And besides, that Yoma did get away with molesting Claire; she never had any yoma-babies did she?

Better to keep that sort of thing with fanfiction(Raki having an AB for a wife in Shelter's fic and Raki having children with Priscilla in "In Fire" )

[sonotme_9FedriqSama]

Spoiler:

Here u can see the major difference in the whole of manga between Viz version and RAW

[Arturro]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Why not? that's what he essentially did by cutting off his legs; but slicing the torso, he's extremely hindering it's ability to escape, forcing it to hobble away with it's arms. Considering the people close to it in the initial attack and the size of his sword, he probably didn't go for a headslice because he'd probably harm bystanders.

As I explained a few posts before it's very hard to cut human in half with a straight blade. It's almost impossible if one is cutting from down to top, unless one is stronger than Terminator and Hulk combined Even with curved blades, like katana or hussar sabre to cut someone in half you need to strike from top to down, even "horizontal" cuts are in fact diagonal, with strike starting from top. Straight blades are bad in cutting soft materials like human body, also only strikes from top have enought strenght to cut somebody.
Claymore warriors may cut yomas as they want, cause they aren't human, and so their strenght is also inhuman.

In actual combat "cutting someone in half" rarerly happened. There is no need to cut someone in half to kill him; strikes which are strong enought to do it, ale also slower than other strikes. Not to mention that to cut someone lots of raw strenght is needed as well as a good weapon and technique. If you need to cut someone in half (in yours fanfiction or rpg game) use halberd, scythe or double handed axe.