Higurashi Kai Episode 14 Discussion / Poll

[Sterling01]

ふたり。ひとり。 sounds sad but also happy at the same time

[kingsky123]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

10 for just the opening

yes, i definitely agree on that

[-MotokoAoyama-]

Just finished watching it. Since I suck at Japanese, I guess I voted excellent because

OPENING!!!

Seeing Takano's past was nice too, but her laugh at the end just killed off all my sympathy

[Tengusoldier]

link for the new op?
I don't wanna see the whole ep without subs >.>

[shigure asa]

Originally Posted by -MotokoAoyama-

Seeing Takano's past was nice too, but her laugh at the end just killed off all my sympathy

that's intentional~~
if it's like this then it's more realist than 'she had a hard life so a massacre is ok' type feeling, right?? ^^

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Tengusoldier

link for the new op?
I don't wanna see the whole ep without subs >.>

just watch the first 1:30 seconds of the episode

@MotokoAoyama That laugh shows how far Miyoko has fallen. It made me have even more sympathy for her

[aroduc]

Hanyuu wants your SOUL

New OP shot

Spoiler:

The OP didn't change much. Just framed Takano as more obviously evil, added DEMON HANYUU (auauau~) and showed Hanyuu in the school uniform running over to the kids at the end.

[Ishikawa Minoru]

I already knew about Takano-sama's past, but this episode really made me feel close to her.

It's not like I deslike the club members or anything, but after all Takano-sama had to endure I cannot help rejoicing over her victory. She beat everyone and became God against all odds! Rika will eventually win, but it's only one victory against thousands of losses.

[Klashikari]

Against all odds? that's quite funny if you ask me...(if we consider her wish is completely linked with her status)
her ordeal has arguably little to none involvement with her current objective.

and also, for rika, it isn't "one" victory. it is "THE" victory.

[LuckyCat]

The animation quality for this ep is great. I can't believe I spent 20 minutes rooting for 34 after all she's done, but what can I say.

Originally Posted by aroduc

Hanyuu wants your SOUL
The OP didn't change much. Just framed Takano as more obviously evil, added DEMON HANYUU (auauau~) and showed Hanyuu in the school uniform running over to the kids at the end.

I didn't even notice it until I read this thread.

[-MotokoAoyama-]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

@MotokoAoyama That laugh shows how far Miyoko has fallen. It made me have even more sympathy for her

Really? Maybe its just me, but I found Rika living her life again and again for 100 years to be more worthy of sympathy, so when that laugh happened, I remember the last episode and Rika and I went "BURN, TAKANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Actually, I was a bit confused by that last scene. Was that supposed to link to the end of Minagoroshi-hen?

[Ishikawa Minoru]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Against all odds? that's quite funny if you ask me...(if we consider her wish is completely linked with her status)
her ordeal has arguably little to none involvement with her current objective.

and also, for rika, it isn't "one" victory. it is "THE" victory.

Yes, Rika can always come back, but Takano-sama only had one chance. No matter what number the die rolled, Rika could always try again, but Takano had to roll 6 countless times without any 'resets'.

From a hopeless orphan to a God-like existence!

No matter what, Takano won 99.9% of the times...which is rather interesting. I know this happened differently in the game, but in Saikai we saw Akasaka, Rena and Oishi after the GHD...which means that at least in the anime the whole doesn't collapse after Takano wins.

The club members remembered past worlds, but there are probably many Hinamizawas in which some of them live past GHD...so effectively speaking, Takano's exists as a winner in say 999 worlds whereas Rika ceased to exist in 999 world and won in 1 Hinamizawa. The situation is even worse for Rena and the others.

[Rias]

This epsiode and the next epsiode is to tell the viewers how 34-tan's determination was formed. She's so determined to carry out her plans that no matter how many worlds "Rika" travels to, the set event of Tomitake and Takano's death will always happen, no matter what. The only salvation for the village is for Rika to die prematurely. Takano Miyo, the embodiment of Rule Y, cannot be easily defeated, espically with X and Z on the sides and thus having the 3 rules strengthing each other.

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by -MotokoAoyama-

Really? Maybe its just me, but I found Rika living her life again and again for 100 years to be more worthy of sympathy, so when that laugh happened, I remember the last episode and Rika and I went "BURN, TAKANO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Actually, I was a bit confused by that last scene. Was that supposed to link to the end of Minagoroshi-hen?

You won't understand what I meant until the end of the series. I was just voicing my opinon

[Sterling01]

bastards from alphabet?

[Radikaru]

Originally Posted by Ishikawa Minoru

Fallen? She rose, right? She became God.

In that sense, yes, she rose.
But spiraling into insanity the way she did isn't exactly rising.

[Klashikari]

please avoid spoilers from pieces. all you wrote is absolutely NOT SHOWN in this episode

Originally Posted by Ishikawa Minoru

Yes, Rika can always come back, but Takano-sama only had one chance. No matter what number the die rolled, Rika could always try again, but Takano had to roll 6 countless times without any 'resets'.

Please, don't assume such thing. For starters, Rika doesn't have an infinite amount of possibilities.
Second, the chances Takano wins are Beyond 90%. it is fairly possible to say that Her chance are even bigger than 99%

From a hopeless orphan to a God-like existence!

Her orphan and past doesn't have NOTHING to do with her situation.

No matter what, Takano won 99.9% of the times...which is rather interesting. I know this happened differently in the game, but in Saikai we saw Akasaka, Rena and Oishi after the GHD...which means that at least in the anime the whole doesn't collapse after Takano wins.

It is always like this, and it has been proved in Himatsubushi as well. It isn't "anime exclusive".
But for hinamizawa, the world collapse.

[-MotokoAoyama-]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

You won't understand what I meant until the end of the series. I was just voicing my opinon

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to take out your opinion. It was just my own two cents worth.

Spoiler for just in case:

I can see where the Takano sympathy is coming since I did read some spoilers about the "last" world, but as some have already mentioned, she did win 99.9%, and Rika had to live through that 99.9%. If I were Rika, I would've certainly gone insane after 3 reruns of my life

[Klashikari]

The thing is what she "received" doesn't balance with "what she deals" especially that the means are absolutely not the only way she can do for her "true objective".
That said, I don't clash my "feelings" for X-Y characters, but for Takano's case, if i have to remove my bias side, because of her atrocities, that doesn't justify what she planned to do. if it was another village, it would raise the same reaction from me because what she get through has nothing to do with the situation.

if it was a complete massacre in the orphonage institution etc, i would be "okay", for the "justification", but considering here, nope. not at all. but that's another opinion.

i believe it is not time yet to try to speak further because the episode DOESN'T show completely what Takano have to get through for this plan.
and really we are touching spoilerish matter at this rate.

[Sterling01]

The funny thing is the only reason I give Miyoko sympathy is because I can relate with her childhood.