Campione!(カンピオーネ!) [Light Novel]

[Zurvan]

Yes I was aware that that's where Alec's Black Lightning came from but I wouldn't say that a fallen angel is the same as a demon. And I wonder how a titan would look like as a Heretic God.
Thanks for answering my question

[haseo0408]

Originally Posted by Zurvan

Yes I was aware that that's where Alec's Black Lightning came from but I wouldn't say that a fallen angel is the same as a demon. And I wonder how a titan would look like as a Heretic God.
Thanks for answering my question

Well, titans the original gods of the world according with greek mythology so they gods in their own right. In the regard of the other deities heros and demons, they all have roots as some sort of god worshiped by acient civilization only that their stories change when the culture change or is mixe with foreing traditions.

In the universe of campione the only condition for the birth of a Heretic God is the devotion and worshipped of the people as explain in War God of the Lance. I hope this is useful to you.

[whitecloud]

In that point even superman could exist as long as he is worshipped enough

[Gore17]

Originally Posted by whitecloud

In that point even superman could exist as long as he is worshipped enough

Hasn't been long enough. It's mentioned that centuries is needed for a God to be born. So if Superman remains around long enough as an icon, yeah, we'll see the birth of Superman as a God.

[bludvein]

I thought it was sort of an unspoken rule that it needs to be more than knowledge. It needs a certain amount of belief as well. Otherwise whats to stop characters like Harry Potter or whatever (as silly as that sounds) from turning into a god over time? Nobody ever believed Superman was real. So I find that really damn unlikely, even for a hypothetical situation.

[holybell84]

Originally Posted by Gore17

Hasn't been long enough. It's mentioned that centuries is needed for a God to be born. So if Superman remains around long enough as an icon, yeah, we'll see the birth of Superman as a God.

If so, any one with a piece of Kryptonite will become a Campione....

[Breimoon]

Originally Posted by holybell84

If so, any one with a piece of Kryptonite will become a Campione....

batman, the Campione! xD can't wait for the fight between godou and uldin. Want to really see his new weapons.

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by holybell84

If so, any one with a piece of Kryptonite will become a Campione....

This conversation about superman again. People this subject has already been discussed over and over again. So do you really wanna see a superman God or what.

[whitecloud]

it just funny (especially after watching man of steel)...oh yeah....talking about god...if we are talking devotion...japanese otaku has alot of it in madoka or haruhi...wait for a while and heretic god madoka is born...haha

[Yami no Ou]

it will be cool if a Maou becomes a Heretic God

[bakapervert]

^What Maou that you refer to?

[Gore17]

Highschool DxD?

Anyway, I don't think believing in them is required. Just the myths/stories about them.

However, Superman is way to recent for a God to be born from the stories. Same without everything else suggested. Now, centuries/millennia from now, maybe.

[Breimoon]

Originally Posted by bakapervert

^What Maou that you refer to?

i'm ready to bet it is a big boobed sexy female maou

[bakapervert]

^Or maybe a maou that is working at MgRonald.

[Zurvan]

Originally Posted by haseo0408

Well, titans the original gods of the world according with greek mythology so they gods in their own right. In the regard of the other deities heros and demons, they all have roots as some sort of god worshiped by acient civilization only that their stories change when the culture change or is mixe with foreing traditions.

In the universe of campione the only condition for the birth of a Heretic God is the devotion and worshipped of the people as explain in War God of the Lance. I hope this is useful to you.

Does that mean that if a Campione from an old age could be a God in the modern age? Imagine the King of End first being a campione and then a god.

[chrono25]

I have been having similar thoughts on that but another would be that the king of the end isnt really the title of the steel god that they are currently introducing but rather the title of the last campione to be born ! one that has a double meaning !

[haseo0408]

Originally Posted by Zurvan

Does that mean that if a Campione from an old age could be a God in the modern age? Imagine the King of End first being a campione and then a god.

The author has not given an explanation for that yet but I think it´s impossible for three reasons:

1)Campiones aren´t usually the type of people widely known by the general population, the wizardy world is the only one that worships them and now their identidies, Uldin is a strange exception to the rule.

2)Pandora, she might have the power to stop an event as she is the one that administrates the ritual of bitrh of her childs.

3)Campiones are existences that are human but are not at the same time, for that reason it might be impossible for them to trasend to the divine realm like some famous mortal heros beacause as Devil Kings they already stand in the same ground as the Gods.

This is only a theory but I hope it satisfices you.

[Zurvan]

Yeah you are probably right.
PS do you really think pandora would stop people worshipping a Campione (if they did). Quite sad it's almost like she doesn't want them to become legends.

Another question, how are demigods handled in the Campione world? There was Perseus however he was Mithra a full God of the Sun

[haseo0408]

Originally Posted by Zurvan

Yeah you are probably right.
PS do you really think pandora would stop people worshipping a Campione (if they did). Quite sad it's almost like she doesn't want them to become legends.

Another question, how are demigods handled in the Campione world? There was Perseus however he was Mithra a full God of the Sun

Well, Pandora wouldn´t stop people from worship them but most likely she has the power to stop them from being actual Gods. As for demigods, they fall in the same cathegory of the rest of divinities, meaning they are consider actual Heretic Gods as it can be be witnessed in Hime-Miko of the Sword when the divinity of Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi was analysed.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Zurvan

Another question, how are demigods handled in the Campione world? There was Perseus however he was Mithra a full God of the Sun

Hard to say, I think part of their exploits are assimilated by a God that becomes Heretic - I think that part of the deeds that Heracles has done, have been taken by Melqart ... after he became a Heretic God.

Overall, I think that Campione's can be treated as something similar to a demigod ... after all, they are partially humans ... but a part of them, more or less, the divine energy that they have obtained from the gods that they have defeated, makes them stand on a equal footing as "normal" or "heretic" gods.