2008-11-19, 17:00 | Link #924 |
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Honoka just owns, I think she's a cute little sister. She listens like a dog to her big brother.
And a Honoka x Natsu seems inevitable. The guy's already wipped anyway. And Kenichi was unlucky, the masters interfered with his first kiss.
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2008-11-19, 17:25 | Link #926 | |
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The reason Kenichi defeated Shou wasn't because Kenichi was more skilled, it was because of Kenichi's unnatural toughness (thanks to his Masters), but against someone like Tirwat, whose offensive power was clear from the start of the fight, that toughness amounts fo nothing. Second, the getting "killed" thing is a very important part of the story, because this is the first time an opponent has ever brought him to death's door. Apachai has done it by accident before, but this was an enemy trying to kill him. This is a Shounen, we know Kenichi will survive, and be the victor in the end, but it's the journey, not the destination that makes a story interesting. Reading the beginning and the end of the book doesn't tell you the story in between. As for Miu, in all honesty with Kenichi's growth and the inactivity of Yomi at school it isn't surprising she let her guard down. Even Nijima (who is suspicious to the core) did not see them targeting Kenichi first. She is at fault for letting her guard down, but under the circumstances, it is understandable.
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2008-11-19, 17:28 | Link #927 | |
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Yeah, i was also wtf when i saw Kenichi down like that too. But it still has logic in it, consider it was a very surprising attack, and Ancient Muay Thai attack is deadly. I think it created a shock at his heart and making his organs malfunction, and endurance has little to do about this. So still acceptable for me. Remember, Shou could have finished Kenichi in 1 hit if he hadn't had his chainmail About Miu. When she still had clothes on, Kenichi met Daimonji. Then she chit chat, changed clothes, when Kenichi rushed to Tirawit, fighting underling. Then he chatted with Tirawit a little bit, down after several exchanges (about.. 3minutes?) So we can say that Miu waited for him at the school gate for around 3-4 minutes, not too bad actually. Last edited by Cinocard; 2008-11-19 at 17:43. |
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2008-11-19, 19:26 | Link #929 | |
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For starters this chapter felt much more realistic and serious than... well the rest of the series. The truth is that until now for Kenichi beeing able to win his fights it was all thanks to his godly masters and because his opponents were nice ppl that lost to Kenichi's sense of justice and kindness. It is illogical for someone that was considered weak even among normal ppl to compete agaisnt diciples that have trained for almost all their lifes with just some months of training. Even Shou lost to Kenichi because of that and not because of actual skill. Tiawat might not have been stronger than Shou but unlike Shou, he fought Kenichi without restraining himself. Kenichi did get stronger but winning the D&D made him a bit overconfident (ex. during the sport festival when he was about to throw the iron ball) and forget that he was still a newbie in the martial arts world. Loosing a fight can be the end of his life as a martial artist or just another test to become even stronger than before. He is called the strongest Disiple and not the strongest martial artist for some reason.... a disiple is constantly learning and training in order to master his skills. The title is simply the objective he is aiming for. And about Miu not being there to save Kenichi like she always did.... well im glad she didnt cause after all Kenichi's reason for enduring all the hardships is to be able to protect Miu... it is kind of insulting for Kenichi if she is protecting him all the time and it would be impossible for their relationship to go any further.
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2008-11-19, 20:20 | Link #930 | |
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I'm having a hard time seeing where the manga is going from here now. How can you make any fight from here on matter when someones actually killed the main character already? |
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2008-11-19, 20:24 | Link #931 |
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People should wait till they explain why Kenichi couldn't defeat Kouken, before flying off the bar and get pissy over it. It's not a skill thing its a mental thing.
Also, Kenichi defeated Shou because he had to protect Miu. Its been repeated several times that Kenichi is most powerful when he's protecting someone.
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2008-11-19, 20:43 | Link #932 | |
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Being defeated in a fight doesnt mean the end of the world... remember that russian shadow fist master simply escaped when he noticed that he wasnt able to win against Akisame...
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2008-11-19, 20:57 | Link #933 | |
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Second: Kenichi did not die. His heart had a shock -> no pulse. Akisame simply gave another shock to make it beat again. It's not like he was dug up from the ground. |
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2008-11-19, 21:17 | Link #934 | |
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This part I agree with completely.
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2008-11-19, 21:52 | Link #937 | |
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Anyways I'm done ranting about it. This is still one of my favorite mangas, I just don't want to see it turn into something where death means absolutely nothing, it just cheapens the whole thing imop. |
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2008-11-19, 22:06 | Link #938 | |
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2008-11-19, 23:51 | Link #940 | ||
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Kenichi could have been defeated as easily by Shou. When Shou attacked him after mauling Shinpaku, Kenichi only blocked a killing blow by having seen where Takeda was hit. The second time, the chainmail saved him. And for the rest of his fight, even though Shou pounded him, Kenichi at least partially blocked everything. Unlike here where he took Tirawit's best strike completely undefended. It just shows that a weaker opponent can win if he's more mentally focused. That's the theme of most sporting upsets of the past millenium . Quote:
However, Kenichi hasn't gotten any training in ancient Muay Thai to prepare him for Tirawit. Although I expect Apachai to teach him before the rematch. Last edited by Amirali; 2008-11-20 at 13:34. |
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