2010-10-16, 20:02 | Link #4821 |
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As with most episodes, it works if he's a mastermind, but works poorly if he's a killer. The core of the George Culprit theory basically requires somebody else be doing the killings for him, which in turn requires a reason why they would do this for him (beyond, of course, a reason why he is doing it).
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2010-10-16, 20:05 | Link #4822 | |
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The point is that it's a plausible explanation outside of Kyrie intentionally MacGuyvering together a stake hurling contraption with which to commit suicide. |
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2010-10-16, 20:10 | Link #4823 |
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Well, if George is the mastermind, speaking hypothetically... he's godawful at it. He almost never survives to fruition of his hypothetical plans. Arguably, he never does in a single episode.
That is one lousy mastermind. Then again, the Kyrie culprit theory has the same problem, and...
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2010-10-16, 20:12 | Link #4824 | |
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And for crying out loud, look at the series protagonist. The entire Ushiromiya family is incompetent outside of Kinzo, and that man's nuts. And old. No matter who the ultimate mastermind is, ultimately theyre gonna appear to be incompetent, that's just how the games have been set up. |
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2010-10-16, 20:17 | Link #4825 |
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Murdering everyone wouldn't be that hard. Folks have the right idea: Just run around shooting people. Do it late at night. Bring a gun and shoot people through pillows. Poison the tea. Or just use that freaking bomb. It's not like anybody's expecting to get murdered.
Eva says in ep1 she'd do it "right" as evidence it can't be her. And in fairness her plan makes more sense than a serial murder.
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2010-10-16, 20:23 | Link #4827 |
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Although everything screams Jessica is innocent on Maria and Ange levels. I have to admit as far as killing people and faking her death goes I at least get the impression that Jessica would actually be competent at it.
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Step 2: While fiddling with the lock, palm the real key and produce another key. Step 3: Hand key to Gohda through window. That's pretty much all you have to do. If you have another key on you - basically any key - the odds of anyone noticing are basically nil unless they got a good look at both keys.
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2010-10-16, 20:26 | Link #4829 | |
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That being said, Kyrie is intelligent enough to think through the aftermath. Look at what happened with Eva, a circumstance like hers as it was presented is far and away the exception. Normally, Eva would have been outright arrested herself, the only evidence supporting her innocence was the fact that Hideyoshi and George didn't make it off the island. That eliminated her from contention, as she'd have no motive to off them. Had Kyrie done it, she wouldn't have been able to escape suspicion. Maybe if her plan all along had been to off Rudolf and Battler then escape herself, but that act isn't consistent with someone who's been shown to be pining for her victim for 18 years. To the point of contemplating murder in order to get him for herself. With that in mind, Kyrie had the right idea for execution (hurr durr), but the way her plan was presented would have been pretty crappy in setting up her ability to enjoy the benefits of offing the competition for the Ushiromiya fortune afterwards. A frontal attack doesn't work because it's too obvious. In the long-run, the investigation would eventually pin the culprit by process of elimination if nothing else. |
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2010-10-16, 20:27 | Link #4830 |
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Wouldn't Gohda and Kumasawa, being long time servants, notice? I mean, they're likely to know a unique key which has nothing in common with the master key from pretty much all the others. Unless they notice and don't say anything, I guess.
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2010-10-16, 20:29 | Link #4831 | |
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Think about it. What are the odds of the chef being tasked with tending the garden, and the lazy old lady being saddled with handling gardening tools/equipment/duty? |
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2010-10-16, 20:32 | Link #4832 |
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Except that the explosion/disaster completely conceals all evidence. I assure you, I could not convict Eva without a confession. There simply isn't any evidence that can plausibly explain how she "got away with it." If nothing else, there is no way I could explain how she set up the disaster to happen when she doesn't own the island, doesn't live there, and can't be shown to have gone there regularly to install whatever causes it.
All Eva's lawyers have to do is hammer home to the judge or jury that I can't provide a rational or reasonable explanation for how she arranged to destroy everything so perfectly. Yeah, she's circumstantially questionable as all hell, but she'll be found not guilty for certain if she's tried for murder. I honestly can't even prove murder. George/Hideyoshi alone destroys intent.
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Yeah, but they'd still probably be able to tell if it were one that fitted to one of the locks in the mansion. The chapel key is ruled out by Battler's investigation, but I guess one of the keys to Kinzo's study could work for this, actually, since they never turn up.
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Kyrie is not stupid enough to not consider the long term outcome of a murder spree. Moreover, she has not been presented as being capable of taking the steps to ensure she'd be able to escape conviction like Eva was able to, for the reasons you just said. Therefore, it's illogical to consider her a possible mastermind. |
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2010-10-16, 20:41 | Link #4838 |
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You're forgetting though, there's no proof of a murder at all short of the disaster itself. If Eva's being tried for murder, it's for murdering everyone with the incident, not any sort of serial murder. The serial murder is message bottle Witch Hunter hysteria; there remains not a scrap of evidence that anything killed the Ushiromiya family besides the explosion.
To successfully convict someone of murder for this crime, I as a prosecutor have to show:
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About the fake key. If it was a fake key then this was all along planned that at least some flee or act as they flee from the dinning room. The Key had a plate attached that identified him as the shed key so you can't just throw any key in there and hope noone notices.
I don't think a simple "on the fly" switch of the plate would have worked if the keys follow the "old building sheme" so this was all prepared beforehand.
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