New Mobile Report Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop (2010 Novel)

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Eeni

The understanding is that even though the gundams in EW aren't the same as in the series, they're supposed to be the same gundams, they were always supposed to be the Katoki designs.

That’s the thing though. They are supposed to be the same, but the fact is: they’re not.

Just like how in AGE TV series, Zeheart piloted white-Legilis in the final battle while in the Memory of Eden OVA, he piloted red-Legilis during the very same event. Both cannot happen in the same timeline. Hence Memory of Eden is a retelling of AGE TV series that happen in a different timeline. In a game, you can say that the story took “another route”. This is hardly anything new as MSG & Zeta also have their own TV series & movies where each of them happen in their own separate timeline/universe. Pretty much like Wing TV & EW.

[Halberd]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

There may be some inconsistencies, but GoL is a lot more in line and fitting as EW's prequel than the TV series can ever be, just like the recent Gundam Origin OVA is to the original MS Gundam series.

Still, when it comes to Gundam designs, GoL can still make Altron, Deathscythe Hell and the other Gundams lose their "additional weapons" in battle, hence their "lacking" appearance seen in EW flashbacks of the Libra final battle. If they do, that'll make it more consistent with the EW OVA/movie. It also helps that EW OVA & GoL are written by the same person (Sumizawa) with more in-line designs by Katoki.

Yes, they certainly could remove any weapons/additions made to the Gundams during GoL and make them look essentially the same as in EW should the manga cover the events up to it, but I mean that in the OVA the Gundams don't seem to have been upgraded at any point at all.

I don't remember if we saw the Wing Zero in flashbacks and I'm not sure about Altron either, but we've seen Deathscythe Hell, Heavyarms and Sandrock and they look exactly the same.

To be honest, I really enjoy this idea of EW taking place in an alternate universe that isn't the same as the tv series' because it fits with this idea I have that everything is canon and nothing is retconned: there are alternate universes among themselves.

For example, assuming the tv series' timeline is the main universe, there's an alternate universe in which GoL takes place, which is essentially the same as the main timeline except for few alterations, as well as the fact that it goes all the way to FT, which may or may not have happened in the main universe.

Then there's the idea that EW is its own universe, which supposedly follows the main timeline up to the Mariemaia incident (which may or may not have happened in the main and/or GoL/FT universes) and, going by the last line ("Weapons known as Mobile Suits, including the Gundams, were never seen again"), FT doesn't happen in it.

Sure, it pretty much throws a wrench into Black History's gears, since the idea is that history kept repeating itself over and over, from our AD to UC, all the way up to the CC instead of being several alternate timelines (with alternate timelines among themselves) that converged there, but still, I really like this idea to explain retcons and make everything canon.

[Knight_SV]

somehow i think FT will end along with GOL

[Rainforce]

More pages from the latest GOL chapter, they improved the first Wing Zero VS Epyon too. Vulkanus mentioned and shown. Best Gundam manga ever.












More latest FT chapter info:
-Treize was in Luxembourg when he was analyzing the coded mail he received from sender literally caled Heart of Outerspace. He then uses a book on cat language from the politician Heero Yui and decoded the message which talked about the Zero System. He then activates the Pandora's Box he received from Zechs 3 years earlier and sees the future 2nd Lunar War. He then thinks he can stop this war and calls all Specials to help him, only Zechs and Erv missing
-After the officer assassination on the previous volumes, the new Bulge commander decides to execute all rebels. Lady Une tries to talk him down to no avail
-Bit about Quatre opposing Zayed transporting supplies for the war
-Artemis and Quinze planned the rescue of the Bulge prisoners
-The Gundarium deposit Alpha destroyed was to be used to produce 150 Aquilas
-Dekim wanted to help the rebels to receive the Prometheus as payment. The Prometheus is given to the Barton Foundation and Erv became sad after losing it.
-Trowa as testing the WMS-01 Aquila which has more armor and firepower than the Leo but less mobility and melee capability. It's also easier to control due to Instructor H's expertise on cockpit systems.
-Doktor S showed Trowa the Prometheus which was to be captain machine of the Aquila force. Dekim's son couldn't handle it.
-Master O and Wufei went to the moon to rescue Lyaoia disguising as teacher and assistant.
-Beta and Alpha were continously training until J asked them to train their shooting skills for the upcoming war. Beta uses this opportunity to urge Alpha to escape since his Wing can't fly and he wants to die in the battlefield of the upcoming Lunar War. Alpha transforms the Proto Zero and flies away with Beta saying he has to live.

[The American Average]

so Venom Heero is alpha right, and Beta is big boss heero correct? Frozen Teardrop and GOL you crazy jokers you.

[He00Ro]

Now with the latest GoL images *insert hype gif*, I seriously hope and wish Sunrise turn it to anime as remake/remaster to Gundam Wing.

Also is one of the photos of Wing Zero vs Epyon showing Wing Zero using its two beam sabers against Epyon's beam saber? Cool!

-The Gundarium deposit Alpha destroyed was to be used to produce 150 Aquilas

So the Heero in the anime is alpha? That doesn't make any sense to me
If Alpha and Beta are clones then what about the Heero which is the son of Aoi Clark and Odin Lowe?
Excuse my lack of informations cuz I'm not into the details of FT

[Knight_SV]

the fight is improvement from the tv series. epyon beam sword is shown to be stronger than wing zero's beam saber. also heero comments how wing zero's appearance has changed.
well, next chapter they will switching suit anyway

[Rainforce]

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[coldzero]

my my, i come back once in a long while and cannot keep up with FT. I wish there was a site that has all the chapters and pics organized and description with each chapter. So hard to follow this long thread. But yes, as exciting as there continuation for Wing, I hope this is never made into an anime.

[Rainforce]

Last month's FT chapter full summary, part 1:



-Dekim's forces consisted of a flagship, 5 destroyers, 10 MS transport ships and 2 aircraft. He started Operation Sagitta to weaken the Alliance's moon fighting power and to attack Bulge 5 days later.
-2 Sagittarius class lunar land ships(Pholus and Chiron) were patrolling from Mare Tranquillitatis to Mare Seranitatis. The rebel destroyers releases 200 tons of depth charges at them.
-The Pholus and Chiron managed to destroy the depth charges with anti-air fire but the explosions generated a lot of dust. After this the 100 MS Aquila were launched and then the captain machine Prometheus landed awkwardly on the moon.
-The Aquilas opened fire together with the Prometheus firing from the rear with its cross gatling machineguns and large homing missiles. Then Dekim's son fired the chest and shoulder missiles, emptying all his ammo. The Pholus and Chiron deployed each 50 Leos but since the smoke was still strong some fell to the Aquila's twin gatlings. Since the Leos were mostly equipped with bazookas they were easy prey to the Aquila's beam saber when passing the smoke.
-Dekim decided to retreat after the enemy suffered 50% losses, it was an overwhelming victory. The lunar battleships returned to the base heavily damaged and Septem anticipated the rebel prisoners execution because of the attack.

-Duo heard someone singing Hey Diddle Diddle, he thought it was Hudie but when he opened the Devil's cockpit it was Meilan instead. Duo teases her about having a lovely side but the conversation changed to her father in Bulge. More chitchat until Hudie informs that the prisoners are going to be executed early.

-Septem and Treize arrive at the Tranquillitatis base. Treize tries to dissuade Septem from executing the prisoners saying this would start a war but General Clarence signs the orders. Treize goes to patrol the base and meets Cordelia again, she hands him intel on the rebels. Treize asks her to give him the names of the dead in battle.

-Solak under Treize's orders lead 5 Griefs to guard the southwest. 10 Leo V Nemean had gone to investigate Mare Nectaris but they didn't answer Solak request to return to base. He then went to their location and found all 10 Leos with their cockpits pierced by a beam shot. He then ordered his troops to leave because a sniper was in the area
-It was Beta Heero sniping from the mountains with a camouflaged Wing using the Buster Rifle in a lower output mode. He watched Solak retreat when Dr. J contacted him asking if he had let Alpha escape, Beta denies and J doesn't blame him.

-The rebels hold an emergency meeting in their flagship, a video is shown from the AC 186 attack on Bulge. They doubt they can destroy the Bulge Cannon but Quinze says it has been done by the Proto Zero before and since the Prometheus has more firepower than it it should be possible to disable the cannon. Dekim's is hesitant about the attack and meets Trowa in the hangar, he asks about Prometheus maximum range which Trowa says is 4,5km but with low accuracy. Since this is a dangerous mission Trowa asks to pilot it instead of Dekim's son.

-Inside the large rebel transport ship Artemis pilots Scheherazade while Zechs and Erv use Schwarz Griefs. They also have 50 Leo V Nemean. Erv mentions that the Specials are in the lunar base so Zechs said they shouldn't hesitate. Their forces are then deployed.

-Meilan heard Artemis deployed so they have their camouflaged ship head to the base too. Broden Diez from BOP manga is going in the same direction with 8 Space Aries to support Solak's retreat. Duo's ship manages to pass Broden's troop without being detected.

-When Solak arrives at Tranquillitatis he sees a MS which he mistakes for a blue Grief. It's actually the Tallgeese Zhilong equipped with the 4 Guardians equipment. Wufei rushes the Griefs using the high output propeller Suzaku and disable 2 with the solid sword Byakko. A Grief attacks with a beam saber but Wufei blocks the attack with the super hard Genbu shield and counters with the Byakko. Wufei then takes the folding beam naginata Seiryu from the Genbu shield and combines it with the Byakko to form a double edged spear. Wufei then rotates the spear and defeats the 2 remaining Griefs while sparing the pilots but he didn't feel happy with this victory.
-Minutes later Broden troops arrive and Wufei introduces himself before attacking them. The Space Aries fire missiles together to no avail then Wufei uses the Suzaku booster to reach the Aries. He slices 4 Aries with a single movement of the combined spear and shoots the beam gun from Seiryu at the fifth Aries, Broden then orders the retreat and says he will not forget Wufei while giving his name to him. Because of the extreme acceleration Wufei vomits blood.

-Artemis troops attack the northeast, Erv uses a Dobergun and Zechs dual wields beam sabers. 100 Leos appear but they manage to enter the base to diverge attention to save the prisoners.

-The Alliance base is in chaos, they order every troop to the northeast and Septem makes the 2 Saggitarius class ships deploy too. Treize disagrees with the plan when Noin informs him, he doesn't want the Bulge Cannon to be fired. As Treize is about to board his custom Grief Cordelia asks him to let her fight by his side, Treize says a lady shouldn't do such things. Cordelia says because she's a lady she must do this, Treize smiles and lets her pilot a MS.

*Part 2 soon

[Rainforce]

Last month's FT chapter full summary, part 2:

-Trowa in Prometheus leads the 100 Aquilas towards Bulge. His fighting style aims to not use all the ammo at once. Trowa disables the Bulge Cannon at close range and mentions he doesn't like the cross gatling because it reminds him of Middie Une and her crucifix transmitter from Episode Zero. He leaves the cross gatling equipped with a time bomb and deals heavy damage to Bulge making it unable to target the lunar surface, helping the rebels. Later an older Trowa regrets destroying the cross gatling while rebuilding the Prometheus.

-Meilan and her sister pilot the Devil while Duo follows in a vehicle behind after infiltrating the base. Duo finds Lyaoia but he wants to die. Duo drags him and other 4 prisoners to escape.

-The rebel fighting force acting as decoy is reduced to 30 Nemean, Artemis observes Treize in a white Grief and Cordelia in a purple Chimera fighting skillfully. She is informed of the prisoners rescue, her Sheherazade is damaged from the long battle. Zechs and Erv ask to be left behind so they defend the retreating troops, Artemis accepts.

-Broden's Space Aries troops spot Duo and the prisoners vehicle, Devil comes to help them. Meilan disables the Devil's stealth system so the enemies can see it. Broden orders his 2 soldiers to retreat but they disregard the order and attack the vehicle. In the ensuing fight Meilan destroys the 2 Space Aries with missiles but Hudie is killed by a beam rifle shot that penetrated the glass cockpit.

-Zechs and Erv have to fight 200 Alliance MS but Treize demands a duel which is accepted. Everyone watches in awe as Treize and Zechs duel, Treize is said to be better at fencing while Zechs is better at MS piloting.

-Duo after boarding the spacecraft with the prisoners goes to personally stop the out of control Devil by entering the cockpit. Meilan accepts her sister death after blaming herself and inherits her will as a rebel.

-Zechs was tired and his beam saber output was falling, Treize took this importunity to cut his black Grief arms. Zechs asks to be killed but Treize refuses and asks him to return to OZ which he does with Erv. Cordelia felt even more admiration for Treize after this, her piloting skills were praised and she joined the Specials too. Treize decides to call her Lady Une and she gives him the name of the dead soldiers in that battle.

-Hudie is given burial in a crater, Meilan and Liayoa say nothing. Master O and Wufei arrive at the scene, Wufei says that Devil is an arrogant name and Warlock would fit the MS better.

-Black Alpha and Proto Zero had been recovered earlier, he and Quatre discuss the meaning of war in a resource sattelite. Alpha said he destroyed the Gundanium deposit on ZERO's request, Quatre then asks what it is, Alpha responds it's like the Heart of Outer Space. Alpha says he doesn't want the Proto Zero anymore and that Quatre should pilot or dismantle it. Zayed appears and orders the Proto Zero and the other frames to be dismantled and abandoned with the resource satellite MO-IV because he believes they are the source of war. Suddenly a shuttle departs, piloting it Black Alpha whose whereabouts were unknown after this. He reappears in the Relena Episode Zero chapter set in AC 191.

-One day earlier the Specials launched an attack on the rebels with 100 Leo Type VI Löwe and 50 Space Aries Golden Fleece(these have similar exteriors but better performance). Some Aquilas were destroyed besides having the same performance but the pilots were inferior to the Specials. Dekim's son pilots the Prometheus(people thought it was him that damaged Bulge) thinking he would easily win but he's defeated(the loss of the cross gatling hurt), he escapes from the cockpit only to be captured and become an Alliance prisoner. The rebel fleet suffered 50% losses and the flagship could barely escape. Doktor S was afraid the Prometheus would fall on OZ's hands and regretted not installing a remote self destruct device. However it didn't happen because Warlock in flight mode came to recover the Prometheus. Duo and Meilan comment on Wufei and Meilan says he's good looking. The Warlock goes back to the crater and they learn Zhilong and the spaceship left back to L5, Duo, Meilan and Liayoa will continue to fight with the rebels. Hudie's death greatly affected Lyaoia making he lose his will to fight.

-The rebels had captured the Chiron and Pholus and wanted to use the underground base to repair the gundanium MS. On the bridge Artemis and Quinze discussed the future rebellion mentioning Zechs as their leader, however Lyaoia escapes with the Prometheus/Warlock/Sheherazade and Quinze goes in pursuit. Then Dr. J enters in contact to warn the ships that he had a sniper placed nearby and that he would shoot anyone there. They had no time to escape since Beta destroyed both bridges killing Artemis. Dr. J tells him that he had attacked allies, Beta says those were Alliance ships then Dr. J congratulates Beta on having his revenge(Artemis' attack on Bulge had caused Aoi and Seis Clark deaths in 186). Beta says that had nothing to do with him.

-Lyaoia then reaches MO-IV and hands the MS to Zayed but he's killed by Quinze which also triggers an explosion in the satellite. Quinze then orders to take Zayed too but his transport is hit by Quatre piloting Proto Zero, Zayed berates Quatre for his actions. MO-IV is then fitted with an engine and moved to the L4 colonies carrying the 4 frames dismantled.

-Some time after Dekim still continues to attack the Allliance on the moon, the brass reunites and Lady Une says to end this they should execute Dekim's son. Septem disagrees with this and Une exposes his connections with Dekim, General Clarence orders Septem's prison. Relena's adoptive father Twelve Darlian participates in releasing the prisoners resulting in a armistice signed at Bulge by Dekim and Clarence putting an end to the 2nd Lunar War.

All these Leo and Aries variants but no lineart hurts...

The only remaing chapters from Episode Zero are Relena's in 191 and Quatre's in 192. Maybe there's still some flashback to go before the end.

**Confirmation on the last FT chapter being published in this month's Gundam Ace, more info in the next days.

[Halberd]

Originally Posted by Rainforce

**Confirmation on the last FT chapter being published in this month's Gundam Ace, more info in the next days.

as in the final chapter?

[Rising Dragon]

One could hope.

[The American Average]

Originally Posted by Rainforce

**Confirmation on the last FT chapter being published in this month's Gundam Ace, more info in the next days.

You sure? If so awesome. We might finally get some of those Gundam designs, models from FT, and possible video game appearances.

also hows the villain Vingt doing? Does he have a new MS/Gundam yet?

[Rainforce]

Frozen Teardrop final chapter:

-Heero asks Relena to marry her, she agrees
-Wufei will help Vingt build a new OZ
-Alpha was working behind the scenes in politics and meets Lady Une
-Duo becomes an aide to the president

[Knight_SV]

final chapter and still no legit design for the new gundams....

[Halberd]

How dare you make me read this with my own two eyes, Sumizawa.

Originally Posted by Knight_SV

final chapter and still no legit design for the new gundams....

Also this. I can only hope this will be adapted and fixed anytime now and have them reveal the designs.

[The American Average]

Ooh all this sounds cool and all that happened in these 5+ years and 10+ volumes of this Novel was pretty much nothing but a big tease.

Still Vingt and Wufei rebuilding OZ, now that sounds cool

[Rainforce]

-Last Dwarf is Golden, anti-MD effect(upgraded Tallgeese Heaven effect)
-Hilde has not filled the divorce papers yet
-Marimeia is married already and discovered she's a Leia Barton clone. There are many clones in the Earth Sphere
-Battles(unfortunately they short because of the rushed ending):
a)Epyon White(Wufei) VS Vingt in Cerberus(Serpent's successor)
b)Epyon White(Wufei) VS Virgos
c)Tallgesse Heaven(Zechs) VS Virgos
d)King of Spades(Milu) and Sheherazade(Catherine) VS Virgos
e)Sheherazade(Catherine, using Noin image tracer) VS Old Type Mars Suit(Stella, using Zechs image tracer)
f)Queen of Hearts(Naina) and Warlock Fenrir(Duo Jr.) VS Virgos
g)Prometheus VS Virgos
h)Snow White(Heero) VS Epyon(Holo Zechs)

[Rising Dragon]

Another clone... what a rip-off.