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2004-11-15, 05:16 | Link #23 | |
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And probably one of the reason of this approval. Of course, like Lexander said, Ben Laden wouldn't have waited for an approval to attack the USA ; it's more like a way to fear the Americans.
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2004-11-15, 06:30 | Link #24 | |
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2004-11-15, 06:36 | Link #25 | |
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2004-11-15, 14:43 | Link #26 | |
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Trust me on this, we're using our covert special forces. we've been using them for several decades already and we will be using for decades to come.
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2004-11-15, 15:26 | Link #27 |
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Strange to see people still talking about this ancient topic called "Bin Laden."
Yankees are willing to use nukes if they are threatened, chinese and russian are the same or otherwise all of them would had joined to "ban-the-nukes" treaty and destroyed all their A-bombs. But they haven't, so I can understand why the current-underdogs-of-media would just love to bomb the hell out from us all. |
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The risks of Sadam possibly having WMD's is simply too much of a risk and with Sadam misleading and denying the U.N. weapons inspectors ever since the first gulf war that made it even more suspicious. So the Bush administration took action. Quote:
Hm...I'm starting to think I'm the only animesuki member here that supports Bush and the war on terror (Iraq included).
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2004-11-15, 15:36 | Link #29 | |
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you're not alone. i also believe that this war is for more than just wmds (and no it's not oil you twits).
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2004-11-15, 15:55 | Link #30 | |
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2004-11-15, 16:02 | Link #31 | |
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Check THIS! out. READ THIS When are people gonna open their eyes and see that this isn't some nice liberation but a bloody MASSACRE in the name of defending Terrorism. Just ask Karl Rove. Sorry I am not trying to incense anyone or cause flame wars or anything but it just kills me that all these people are dying horrible deaths and NO ONE CARES! |
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He kicked the Un inspectors out a second time because he knew war was unavoidable. Quote:
1. they wanna stop WMD, Saddam didn't have any anymore, but he did have plans to start up his WMD program, if the oppurtunity arised 2. oil, a reason but not the only one 3. CONTROL: This is the REAL reason for the war in Iraq : pick up a map and see where the US have troops deployed. Yup there are US Troops EVERYWHERE! This allows them to intervene in any area where they have interests. Now consider this: In the Gulf Area only Saoudi Arabia has US bases, but in the years before the war in Iraq the climate has changed alot, and many Saudi's want those troops out. Add to that a growing anti US climate in the entire Middle East, and the fact that the Saudi king and prince may be pro-US , everybody else is not, so getting kicked out of Saudi Arabia is not unrealistic at all. Now if the US can put a government into Iraq which is favorable to them (just like Saddam was at first!!), they would have a strong influence in the Middle East and over oil reserves, this would allow them to keep a very strong influence in the area and a strong influence on oil. The war in Iraq is a war about control, it's a war the Us is waging to keep control over the world, or at least over their own interests, oil is only a secondary motive. Quote:
The US did indeed liberate Iraq from a tyrant, but it has to stabilise the country (and fast) or the end result will be evn worse than Saddam. |
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This argument can go on forever. I just hope that us Americans won't turn our backs on our military like we did in Vietnam. My uncle was spit on and spoken badly of after returning from Vietnam. He has long since passed away and I will never forget the horrible stories he told me when he was alive.
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2004-11-15, 17:14 | Link #35 | |
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Moreover, those three countries are right by Iran which is not good news. There's also Syria, which tends to act as a terrorist hide out. There's Egypt which has terrorist continuing to make their mark on that country. Lebanon also has terrorist problems. There's Turkey which is only on minimally good terms with the US. If you remember, they would only let the US go thru them to Iraq if they could send some troops with us that would head right into one of the religious faction groups that they hate *sigh* Overall, its gonna take a really long time before peace can exist in that area of the world. Even if we had access to Iraq's oil, it wouldn't help our influence in that area much. The middle east is the real area with lots of control. Every country needs oil and they happen to have the largest reserves in the world. They are some of the most influencial countries economically, therefore a lot of countries aren't willing to stand up against them and say 'hey, what's happening with this terrorist activity and your wars over religion are not cool'. |
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If the US can stabilise and install a government in iraq which is allied to them, then the situation we get in the Middle East would be this 1. A big direct influence on 1/3 (can't remember exact nr) of all oil in the middle East (influence in Iraq and Kuwait) 2. A strong military presence in the Middle East along with a strong ally. The entire Middle East combined is no match for the US army and Israel, so this military presence would give the US a strong indirect control over oil reserves in the area, even if the countries are relatively hostile. None of them would dare go against them out of fear for military retaliation, Israel alone can beat up Syria, Egypt and Jordan combined (it did so often in the past), having 100 000 + US troops as well would really calm the Arab countries down. These Arab countries haven't got such a strong grip on their own power either. So add these up, along with the fact that the Arab isn't as united as it often tries to portray itself, and the fact that Egypt has become alot more moderate, would mean: If the US succeeds, they would be a key player in this region. So imho the Iraq war is about gaining control (both direct and indirect) over the region, they don't have it yet, but it seems as if the whole situation isn't going entirely as planned. Currently the Middle East is one of the few regions on the planet in which the US doesn't have a big control. Considering the fact that China is growing stronger, being the one that calls the shots in the Middle East would prove a major US advantage over China. |
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As for Osama getting approval from the church nuts....Does that mean he doesn't have to do a 1000 "Hail Allah's" or something after this attack? |
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