2012-06-29, 05:43 | Link #222 |
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I don't think there was ever any filler in HSI. It's just that the first episode lead us to believe that the point of the series was about Ohana's relationship with her mother and grandmother. Consequently, everything that didn't focus on that ended up looking like filler. If they tied all the other elements in with that first element, then it probably wouldn't have felt so fillerish. The main problem was structural, not content-wise.
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2012-06-29, 05:59 | Link #223 | |
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And just switch those two to Maison ikkoku or Gintama (and those two have gazzilion more episode than HSI) if you need something to nitpick, thanks.
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2012-06-29, 06:04 | Link #224 |
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How? Bebop and Champloo were episodic from the beginning (and completely different in timelines and atmosphere) whilst HSI was linear progression but with fillers at points.
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2012-06-29, 06:06 | Link #225 |
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On the one cour vs. two cour debate... It depends on where Tari Tari lands on The Sliding Scale of Drama vs. "Eating Cake"
The closer it is to "Eating Cake", the less length matters (and arguably the better two cours is - I mean, if you like it, and length doesn't matter, you'd naturally want to have as much of it as you can have). The closer it is to "Drama" (i.e. there's a plot that actually matters), the more length matters. My recent experience with anime shows with important plots is that they're usually better off being one cour. Judging from the nice PVs alone, it's hard to say how important the plot is in this, though. All I know is some cute girls (and a couple guys) are displaying anime high school energy, and at least one is a very good equestrian.
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2012-06-29, 06:08 | Link #226 | |
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And talking about drama vs eating cake. If it's drama related to eating cake, that's fine. Granted I'll just laugh at it, but lols > being bored. Just don't have cake by itself, it needs to be eaten... by drama. I have no idea why I just wrote the above line. Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2012-06-29 at 06:49. |
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2012-06-29, 11:23 | Link #228 |
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SoL, HSI? what the heck are these?
Anyway, independent of the amount original content to be animated, the main factor defining if one or two cours are appropriate is the person responsible for the series composition, even more so than the director. In Tari Tari its the same person, and even worse has never worked in either positions for a TV anime. |
2012-06-29, 11:42 | Link #229 | |
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Not many people know this, but Professor Layton is actually PA's most successful anime, not Angel Beats, which this movie kicks the shit out of it in financial success. It made over $6.2 million USD in theatres worldwide (Japan and some parts of Asia at the time) in 5 weeks, which for an anime that is not Ghibli (or K-on) pretty damn impressive. In comparison the Dissappareance movie made $6 million USD and had a much longer airing period in theatres. Somewhat explains why visuals are always strong for the studio - $$$. Even Another, which most definitely is the worst looking series PA has done, is at the very least above average for TV standards. Plus, *ahem clears throat*, no Okada to sabotage the series with her fetishes! Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2012-06-29 at 12:25. |
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2012-06-29, 11:44 | Link #230 | ||
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Besides, No. 6 was extra-compressed due to being an one cour noitaminA show. That cost it an episode or two compared to what most other one cour shows have. I never bothered with Chaos;Head so I can't comment on that. I haven't finished Apollon so I can't comment on that yet (I will say that I'm fine with its pacing through the first half, though). Quote:
I know of more two cour shows that trainwrecked and/or felt overly fillerish than I know of one cour shows that trainwrecked and/or felt overly compressed. A two-cour show with an important plot/drama can work, certainly, but one cour tends to be a safer bet with that. AnoHana vs. HSI is a great example of this. AnoHana feels very tight (not rushed, just nice and tight) compared to HSI. Of course, all of this is just my opinion. It's altogether possible that my preferred pacing is faster than what it is for some other viewers.
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2012-06-29, 14:18 | Link #233 |
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Chihayafuru is also renewed for a second season, probably also two cours. I certainly didn't feel it used any padding whatsoever - it was just trying to find a good place to stop, as Utsuro says.
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PA Works as a lot of good animators, but unfortunately their "choice" on story has been from bad to worse |
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2012-06-29, 18:14 | Link #235 |
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Tari Tari will be streamed on Crunchyroll.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...ord-art-online Looking forward to the first episode in a few days. |
2012-06-29, 18:28 | Link #237 | |
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This isn't about it being slice of life, I didn't even use that term. I just felt that HSI did not benefit at all from being 2 cours, it actually took a lot away from it and it's why I thought its contemporary during that season, Ano Hana actually bested it despite also being quite flawed in other departments. In the case of Tari Tari, time will tell. But if it's going to waste episodes like HSI did on the stupidest crap ever, no thank you. I'm actually still unsure whether I am even going to pick this up. Although Another was good for half its run or a little more, I haven't thought PA works has made a genuinely good show since True Tears. Their track record is pitiful.
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