Accel World - Episode 20 Discussion / Poll

[Kaihan]

Originally Posted by PonSquared

I really want to see Nomi have his skull pounded through some cement blocks a few thousand times. I wish the boys would have found Nomi and punched his lights out something good. i know it would have made me feel better, at least.

I ~really~ loathe him.

Pretty much what I been feeling about Nomi the last few episode. They done a great job him making him the most hated villain I hated.

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by Freya

I must have missed it but where did Nico go? Thought she was going to stay with Haru.

I believe she was just staying there for a certain amount of time. Preferably because of the Calamity incident. To try to team up with Kuroyukihime, Haru, and Taku to stop her parent. Now that the incident is over with. She doesn't necessarily need to live there.

[AC-Phoenix]

Ah yes he finally played the camaera card, proofing how foolish teachers can be sometimes for believing it was actually him.
My eyes might play tricks on me but he is certainly far too small to get said camera bag up there.
That combined with the (probably) missing fingerprints should actually be more sufficient than anything else to hint his version is most likely the truth - even the guy at the end of the episode started doubting it was him.

Turning to Niko over Snow black is a big mistake imho, cause Snow bblackk would be a lot more likely to beat the shit out of Nomi than Niko.
But well no point arguing about the story though.

My reason Chiyu joined him is most likely to gather evidence that Nomi iss the acctual culprit, it would be awesome to find out she actually just wanted power and feels guilty about it now.

Nomi pretty much reflects real life bullies - He tries to compensate for his complexes by bullying someone who is apparently weaker.

[Shimapan]

Originally Posted by Soreness

LOL agreed.

and i think haru getting little by little consumed by Chrome Disaster.

No, that has nothing do do with it. Whatever it is, it's the very same that Noumi uses, and it looks the same as well, swirly and all... (just the colour is different.)
Noumi even says so himself that it's the same as he's using: "An attack by the same element?"

Noumi was nowhere around when CD was last defeated, so he can't be possibly affected by CD - which also means that it can't be CD that's affecting Haru here, as it's the same power that Noumi uses.

Perhaps Chiyu just wanted to make Haru really mad, so he powers up and gets the same special power that Noumi has, so he can stomp Noumi into the ground by himself? If the time hadn't run out, he would've had a good chance doing just that.

Originally Posted by novalysis

There's actually a very good reason for Kawahara's seemingly variable and erratic competency as an author, in his works, in animated form.

Spoiler for Touching on the LN Nature of Kawahara's Works:

Just look at Accel World. It was only when Nico showed up that Accel World really bloomed onto it's own, and it's no coincidence. And at the risk of bringing own the wrath of the mods, I'd like to point out that SAO was written before Accel World.

Spoiler for LN stuff:

I already figured that he probably wrote Sword Art before Accel World, as the first one has much more flaws in writing.

[Lycodrake]

Originally Posted by Shimapan

No, that has nothing do do with it. Whatever it is, it's the very same that Noumi uses, and it looks the same as well, swirly and all... (just the colour is different.)
Noumi even says so himself that it's the same as he's using: "An attack by the same element?"

Just because they look similar doesn't mean it's the same thing *only* when it changes appearance.
Haru was using the IS before, and that's all Noumi was doing, just in a different way and with more experience.

[Awrya]

Originally Posted by Shimapan

No, that has nothing do do with it. Whatever it is, it's the very same that Noumi uses, and it looks the same as well, swirly and all... (just the colour is different.)
Noumi even says so himself that it's the same as he's using: "An attack by the same element?"

Noumi was nowhere around when CD was last defeated, so he can't be possibly affected by CD - which also means that it can't be CD that's affecting Haru here, as it's the same power that Noumi uses.

Perhaps Chiyu just wanted to make Haru really mad, so he powers up and gets the same special power that Noumi has, so he can stomp Noumi into the ground by himself? If the time hadn't run out, he would've had a good chance doing just that.

Haru's white sword and Noumi's purplish claw are the same IS attacks, which are created from their imagination/willpower. In case you forgot, Haru spent Ep.16 learning the IS and uses it in Ep.17, so he didn't need to get mad to use IS, since he already learned how to use it earlier.
How the IS looks depends on the user, it doesn't have to have swirly things mixed with it, Haru's IS is a beam of light.

Did you notice how in Ep.12, after defeating Chrome Disaster, there is a short scene showing a red light/seed in Haru's back? The same red light spread from his back when he went berserk against Noumi, resulting in that red aura.
Basically anyone can use the IS, but can it affect the person in real life? The Disaster armour can, not to mention we, the viewers, can hear a voice that is definitely not Haru's, shortly after the scene with the red seed/light in Ep.20, there is clearly a connection.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Ah yes he finally played the camaera card, proofing how foolish teachers can be sometimes for believing it was actually him.

I don't believe Nomi has shown anyone the pictures yet if he had then Haru would be in even more trouble then he is right now. It's more likely the Nomi just starting the rumor to get back at Haru for fighting back. The picture on the other hand seems to be Nomi's end game in case he really needs to get rid of Haru for good.

[AnimeFan188]

Spoiler for speculation:

Spoiler:

With any luck, Noumi will think the Chrome Disaster armor is Haru's secret
weapon, and he'll use his power-stealing ability to take it.

Effectively freeing Haru and cursing Noumi.

It would be just what Noumi deserves.

[thundrakkon]

^ @AnimeFan188

That would be epic, if it were to happen. However, I still think that Haru will tame it somehow and make it his own.

[GundamZZ]

This episode shows different persona.

Taku shows his weak side and cries over Chiyuri's decision.

Haruyuki cries over the mistreatment by his peers. Due to his new "reputation", no one wants to associate with him. However, he would not back down from Nomi's Light Yagami smile. He also shows his dark side. He fears that his current state would cause Kuroyukihime to abandon him. So, he dreams to destroy her, and entangled her by his side. It could be the effect of chrome disaster.

Chiyuri has the strangest behavior. Whenever she appears, she always show intimidating and blushing. She has her own agenda. In the past, she worked hard to keep three friends together. It doesn't seem she would break off their bound easily.

[Nachtwandler]

Didn't read the AW LN's(but read SAO's). But still in oblivious that cHiyu playing her own game to defeat Noumi and all this is just an act of hers. But it still makes me rage

[Ami-chan]

Originally Posted by Bombo

Noumi doing fine with his actions and making rage for fans ,,,Well done AW.!
and next week with my cute king... scarlet chan

Best part is that it's not even Noumi producing my rage. I honestly wouldn't mind if Chiyu died in a car accident, though.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Ami-chan

Best part is that it's not even Noumi producing my rage. I honestly wouldn't mind if Chiyu died in a car accident, though.

This reminds me of the episode in Hyouka about people misunderstanding motives. Be careful what you wish upon other people.

Cheers.

[Dr. Casey]

Originally Posted by Ami-chan

Best part is that it's not even Noumi producing my rage. I honestly wouldn't mind if Chiyu died in a car accident, though.

So have you always hated Chiyu, or did you just turn against her this arc?

[Xaturas]

Originally Posted by Dr. Casey

So have you always hated Chiyu, or did you just turn against her this arc?

I'm not one of the haters.
But when you look at it, Chiyuri may look nice but she already did some things that could make people hate her.
The most important would be her playing around with Taku feelings just so she can have 2 of them near her. If people wanted then they could already think of her as deceitful biatch, before this whole ordeal with stolen wings happened.
Just because some girl is cute, doesn't mean that 100% of population will instantly like her.

[Lycodrake]

Ah, unreasonable hatred appears. Again.
This is just like ep. 15 all over again, but with a different target for the animosity. :|

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by Lycodrake

Ah, unreasonable hatred appears. Again.
This is just like ep. 15 all over again, but with a different target for the animosity. :|

It's pretty common in the anime fandom now a days I'm getting used to see it a lot...

[Dr. Casey]

Originally Posted by Xaturas

I'm not one of the haters.
But when you look at it, Chiyuri may look nice but she already did some things that could make people hate her.
The most important would be her playing around with Taku feelings just so she can have 2 of them near her. If people wanted then they could already think of her as deceitful biatch, before this whole ordeal with stolen wings happened.
Just because some girl is cute, doesn't mean that 100% of population will instantly like her.

Indeed, and I'm not making an attempt to defend Chiyu here (though I do like her very much). I'm just curious about why Ami dislikes Chiyu so much. It's fun to read opinions about controversial characters, and I'm not really defensive about those who probably have done some things to warrant coming under some heat.

[clef]

I find it pretty interesting that Chiyu mentioned only joining up with Nomi to get points from him. Followed by Haru and Taku's speculation that Nomi must be burning up a lot of points to cheat during tests and kendo. Not only that, but they've joked a few times, including this episode, on how Chiyu is absolutely terrible at games. Perhaps at the end, moments before the final blow and Nomi gets BB uninstalled due to his excessive point expenditures, we'll hear "Keikaku doori" from Chiyu.

[Ami-chan]

Originally Posted by Skane

This reminds me of the episode in Hyouka about people misunderstanding motives. Be careful what you wish upon other people.

Cheers.

It's not really misunderstanding motives. I understand Chiyu thinks she's doing the best thing right now. It's more about natural selection and picking out the people who don't have the brain power to succeed in today's society.

I mean, I would never wish this upon someone IRL obviously, but she's just a 2D drawing so I don't really care. If you look at it, Noumi's pretty straightforward. He's just a bastard, and I'm actually alright with that. But Chiyu hasn't learned that meddling only makes things worse after having already screwed things up. Had she done absolutely nothing, the problems would have already solved themselves. And she was there to witness that, but decided to move along with her plans and make everything worse so she could make it better. Natural selection is usually a good thing, and I wish it upon this series.