2010-02-18, 12:39 | Link #6142 | |
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It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the coming weeks as the US tries to get China on board with sanctions against Iran. The Russians seem to have signed on, but the Chinese have stronger commercial relations with Iran, I believer.
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2010-02-18, 13:44 | Link #6143 | |
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2010-02-18, 13:45 | Link #6144 | |
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Talking about China....
China's Growth Slowed Ahead of Government Tightening At least they are finally clamping down on excess.....they build and produce so much, saturate the market, then devalue most of the physical stocks. It is bad for the market and highly anti-competitive, because undervaluing the good sold means underpaying the workers who make the goods and slows the R&D, eventually damaging quality of the goods in long run. Quote:
P.S No offense intended. Just asking out of curio.
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2010-02-18, 17:01 | Link #6145 | ||
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Pilot Crashes Into Texas Building in Apparent Anti-IRS Suicide
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Troubling Portrait Emerges of Pilot Who Crashed Into Texas Building Quote:
RAW DATA: Joseph Andrew Stack Suicide Manifesto Spoiler for If you’re reading this, you’re no doubt asking yourself, “Why did this have to happen?:
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2010-02-18, 17:11 | Link #6146 | |
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As for the pilot software engineer's kamikaze run as posted by mg1942 ..... this is why its often a Bad Idea to piss off your intellectual classes, inventors, craftsmen, etc.... they can do *amazing* damage if they get pushed into the 'nothing left to lose' zone. He's just one guy doing a suicide-protest. Imagine a thousand.... who might start working together.
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2010-02-18, 17:33 | Link #6147 | |
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2010-02-18, 17:34 | Link #6148 |
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I'm quite amazed by the man's act. I find it ironic that America was once viewed and to a lesser degree still viewed as the land of possibilities. But hey, who am I to say if his actions are right and wrong; I simply haven't gotten to my point of life to be able to feasibly understand his level of frustration and suffering.
It's an interesting story and alot of conflicting views will turn up.
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2010-02-18, 20:50 | Link #6150 | |
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The man is biased toward his own perceptions - obviously, being the writer himself. Nonetheless and IMHO, it's an interesting read on how Andrew Stack, after a number of painful defeats, lost hope. Unfortunately, I doubt people will take away the right lesson from his act, and will likely just brand him as a "nutjob" instead of a man pushed too far.
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2010-02-18, 20:53 | Link #6151 |
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I read his so called 'Manifesto'
He sounds like a Libertarian half the time and a Commie and then a Tea Bagging Tax protester the rest. His politics are all over the chart. The man was only hurting in his own head. He describes trying some kinda tax dodge that goes wrong as starting this whole mess. I don't like Glenn Beck but this guy isn't his baby. |
2010-02-18, 21:20 | Link #6152 | |
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If you strip out the personal bias within it, the document reads like a list of the "potholes" in Andrew Stack's life with the most recent incident where he was audited (and wasn't told by his accountant of needing to take into account his new wife's undeclared income till right then) being the straw that broke the camel's back. Andrew Stack did not come across as a man trusting of government being "for the people", and if the anecdotes in his story are true (biased toward him or not), I can't blame him for that lack of trust. The only thing at the moment that I can blame him for was his looking to cause harm to other people who may not have been responsible. Why not attack his accountant (not that I'm saying he should, but the man did not come across as on Stack's side)? By doing so, IMHO, Andrew Stack came across less as a man driven to commit his act than someone simply lashing out at the most obvious (to him perhaps) cause of his problems.
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2010-02-18, 23:33 | Link #6153 | |
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2010-02-19, 00:32 | Link #6154 | ||
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The simple fact, at the moment, is that the US and China are already joined at the hip economically. China needs a healthy US consumer market in order for its own export-driven economy to grow, while the US corporations see the burgeoning Chinese market as a source of new customers. I highly doubt that either side would want to upset this lucrative relationship, whatever their political and ideological differences. Meanwhile: Scientists create matter at 4 trillion deg C Quote:
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2010-02-19, 11:25 | Link #6155 |
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Regarding Joe Stack, the man was a tax cheat trying to paint himself in a favorable light even in his suicide manifesto.
The guy's trouble started when he as an individual attempted to take advantage of deductions intended to be used by institutions, and got caught and fined. Stack started businesses multiple times, and got his licenses suspended multiple times for not paying taxes. He withdrew money from an IRA (tax-deferred, not tax-exempt) and did not file a return that year. He tried to hide $12700 in income, and got caught, audited, and fined, and tried to blame this on his accountant. I agree that parts of the tax code are unfair or nonsensical, but Joe Stack brought his problems upon himself by actively trying to dodge taxes to make a political statement, ending up having to pay fines and losing hidden income as well as his efforts, and landing himself on the IRS's shit list. |
2010-02-19, 19:34 | Link #6157 |
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Under Obama, more targeted killings than captures in counterterrorism efforts
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2010-02-19, 21:02 | Link #6158 | |
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It's like the terrorists in Afghanistan/Pakistan are holding big signs saying "Capture me here!" and it takes no time for Spec. Ops to plan successful operations and transportation. |
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2010-02-19, 23:12 | Link #6159 |
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Obama: Social Security fix would be simple
Spoiler for To save space. The entire (original) short article posted here:
Increasing the number of workers should already be on people's minds now, but the odds of the U3 number going below 10% anytime soon are not too good. Decreasing benefits or canceling Social Security outright will get the retirees in a tizzy, and this group is probably the most vocal and the most willing to go to the election booths in the U.S. That means more taxes look more likely for the future instead. Risky, but short of certain actions - like stripping away pork projects (and that will not happen) - it's likely to happen.
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2010-02-19, 23:55 | Link #6160 | |
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It is bullshit what he did. "To understand his level of frustration and suffering". Many people experience great suffering and immense frustration in their life. Most of them don't end up doing a kamikaze stunt that kills some people, critically injures 2, and hurts a dozen other people. I don't care what his issues were with the IRS, you don't kill innocent IRS employees. Think about it, the man who died in the IRS building had a life, friends and family. The two people who were critically injured have loved ones and all those other things. That Joe Stack schmuck did a murder suicide because "Waaah, the IRS ruined my life!". The man was keeping him down. It got in the way of his life. Ruined his financial plans. So what is the solution? To truly destroy the life of others? Really? God, I'm just getting sick of people like him. He could have coped with his financial problems. The person he killed is gone from Earth for good. The 2 people who are critically injured are still in danger of losing their lives and may be permanently injured. I don't care what Joe Stack's bad experiences were with the IRS and his frustration. I rant and rave because the man writes his manifesto and acts like he was to do a righteous act. He probably envisioned his act to be something like martyrdom or something. Really, I just see him as a hateful man who was ready to give up on life and decided to take out some IRS employees while he was at it. Sorry for the rant, but it bothers me that there are people as low as him in this world. I didn't read the manifesto, but I read in a news article that he said "Violence is the only answer". God, I'm sick of psychos hurting and killing others because they can't handle their problems in life, you know? I felt the need to rant to get some things off my chest. Edit: Just read this post: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=6155 . God, that Joe Stack guy is an even bigger douche now. He had IRS problems that he brought upon himself and acts like they are bad and that anarchy was the answer to the "bad, bad government people". Ugh, well, at least I know now that the IRS wasn't in the slightest too strict to him; like I said, he brought upon the IRS problems he faced.
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