Gundam SEED DESTINY (Phase 10 Discussion)

[MrProphet]

Yup, episode 10 is out. I am sure Lynnie will be out later with more details, but for those of you hungry for some Gundam...

Spoiler:

A very "talkative" episode.

Basically, they show the events of the last episode again, with EA's plans foiled by the Stampeder. Narutally, all citizens of PLANT (and it looked to me like some of the Earth's coordinators as well) are very angry about this. So we see many street protests, angry discussions about war with Naturals and the such.

Meanwhile, Athrun is in Gilbert's office as they talk about the attack, nuclear weapons and the rest. Athrun whines A LOT about his father and how Patrick's legacy haunts Athrun now. Gilbert bitchslaps him (well, he doesn't, but I really wish he did) and tells him that he is he and his dad was his dad so he shouldn't sulk.

All at the same time, fake Lacus appears on the huge screens on the streets of PLANT and calms everyone down with a nice speach and a fakey version of "Fields of Hope". Athrun demands some explanation from the Chairman and Gilbert smirks a lot and says something about using a good tool or something. Then he co-opts Athrun into working for him as a "third force". They go to the hangars and see ZGMF-23S "Saviour" standing there, Phase Shift obviously down. Gilbert basically gives it to Athrun so he can solve some of the problems (like Neo and his squad) independantly from the general ZAFT forces.

Then Athrun meets fake Lacus in some lounge and she invites him to dinner.

- Apparently, she knows she is a fake and introduces herself as "Mia Campbell", but asks Athrun to keep it a secret.

- She is a huge Lacus-fangirl, which I've found hilarious. She likes Athrun a lot too, apparently because real Lacus was his fiancee.

- Athrun is rather cold to her, even when she is all genki and chipper. This makes Mia sad, but she is still annoyingly genki.

Pretty much it.

Next episode preview had random images - EA rearming, Unato plotting against Cagalli, Neo talking with the Earth Trio in the cockpit of some MA (or MS), probably Exus. Some Athrun and Minerva.

[DwArD]

The song the fake Lacus is singing is not Fields Of Hope. Its Mizu no Akashi I think. The real Lacus sing it in GS. Anyway, can someone translate the message that is being displayed somewhere in the anime? It seems to show when the next airing time for GSD. Not so sure though....

[ccardoso]

After what EA has done I think PLANT should counter attack immediately. The use of nuclear weapons during the attack is unforgivable.
I hope they'll destroy the moon base and then all the mass drivers on Earth. Naturals can stay in their blue and clean world on the Earth's surface, like monekys in a zoo.

[sarcasteak]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

Spoiler:

She is a huge Lacus-fangirl, which I've found hilarious. She likes Athrun a lot too, apparently because real Lacus was his fiancee.

Spoiler:

I find this hilarious but freaky at the same time...she idolized Lacus so much that she has become her? Yikes!

[brightman]

Originally Posted by DwArD

The song the fake Lacus is singing is not Fields Of Hope. Its Mizu no Akashi I think. The real Lacus sing it in GS. Anyway, can someone translate the message that is being displayed somewhere in the anime? It seems to show when the next airing time for GSD. Not so sure though....

It says there will be TWO episodes next week, with the first one airing at 5:30.

But don't get your hopes up yet though, there will not be an episode airing on New Year's Day. So we're just getting one episode ahead of time. Still pretty sweet I guess.

And yes, that's Mizu no Akashi, the song Lacus sings in that abandoned theater in Ep 36 of SEED.

Originally Posted by sarcasteak

Spoiler:

I find this hilarious but freaky at the same time...she idolized Lacus so much that she has become her? Yikes!

Spoiler:

Well, she did say that as Mia, she can't really do anything, but as Lacus, she can... And since the real Lacus wasn't around, when she was asked to take up the task she quickly obliged. Which makes Athrun get all thoughtful about his own usage of identities (and I guess now he's going to abandon "Alex" and revive "Athrun" once again).

[tatsit]

Is the song Mizu no Akashi in the OSTs?

[brightman]

Originally Posted by tatsit

Is the song Mizu no Akashi in the OSTs?

It first debuted in the Lacus Character Image CD (even before they had it on the show) but it was never in the OSTs.

[MrProphet]

Yeah, sorry about that. I've never particularily cared about Lacus or Tanaka Rie for that matter. All of Lacus' songs are very similar, you know... slow, emotional... So, it's an honest mistake. 8)

[Sanjuronord]

Originally Posted by DwArD

The song the fake Lacus is singing is not Fields Of Hope. Its Mizu no Akashi I think. The real Lacus sing it in GS. Anyway, can someone translate the message that is being displayed somewhere in the anime? It seems to show when the next airing time for GSD. Not so sure though....

It was probably dealing with the two episode ariring next week, I think.

Spoiler:

Nice ep, just for the short Kira scene at the beginning. Interesting that he's still "haunted" by what Klueze said to him in the last eps I guess.

Mia Campbell had better die or go through some drastic changes before Destiny comes to an end or there is no way anyone is going to like her. She's like the annoying aspects of Fllay and Lacus rolled into one (and I like both Fllay and Lacus..).

Kinda funny how similar Shinn and Cagalli are though. They both hear about the nukes and their first reaction is to punch something...

Didn't feel like much happened in this ep though, Athrun talks to Gilbert. Athrun drools over his Savior Gundam. Athrun talks to Mia. That's about it. Another ep without much appearance by Shinn.

[CowPower]

1. Got stalker fangirl?

Originally Posted by brightman

It says there will be TWO episodes next week, with the first one airing at 5:30.

But don't get your hopes up yet though, there will not be an episode airing on New Year's Day. So we're just getting one episode ahead of time. Still pretty sweet I guess.

Aren't they just making up for the lost time?

[JaLooNz]

My version of the synopsis...

Spoiler:

Kira & Lacus looks at the sky, saws spots of light as nuclear missiles

[OP Theme]

Asuran & Gilbert meets, watches news report
"Discussions" between the two
(Clips of chaos & anger of the people everywhere)
... prolonged discussions...

Fake Lacus address the PLANT people
Tells the public to trust the committee and the chairman
Fake Lacus sings the song

Asuran & Gilbert enters Saviour hangar
Talks a bunch

Asuran enters lounge
Fake Lacus introduces herself as Mia Campbell
Invites Asuran to dinner
... discussions...
Asuran is cold and looks troubled while Mia is talking
(Flashbacks)
(Flashs of Saviour)

[ED Theme]

[Synopsis]
*Orb / EA* army heading towards island
"Evil" Orb leaders looking through reports
PLANT's space cannon
Tricky and cunning Orb leaders "guiding" Cagalli
Determined Asuran looks

Lots of speech in this episode, quite a boring episode for the first few minutes. Expect fansubs to be later than usual.

[MrProphet]

Was it just me, or did anyone else find Mia cuter than the Original Lacus? And no, it's not the boobs... she just looked prettier. Subtly different from Lacus.

Oh, and I liked Lacus' shawl in the beginning... It suits her quite a lot. 8)

[brightman]

Originally Posted by CowPower

Aren't they just making up for the lost time?

Yup. This is probably for the lost episode due to the Earthquake. But since they chose to put it on Christmas Day and the schedule had always been preempting New Years Day in the first place (even before the earthquake), it seems like they are just showing an episode one week early...

Originally Posted by MrProphet

Was it just me, or did anyone else find Mia cuter than the Original Lacus? And no, it's not the boobs... she just looked prettier. Subtly different from Lacus.

lol... That's not what everyone said last ep when everyone was comparing her to a female version of Azrael... I guess a different character animation director comes a long way.

[DwArD]

Hmm.....seems like from the preview, Yuuna is actually sticking pretty closely to Cagalli, and Yuuna's dad is smirking. This is bad. Real bad for Cagalli. We get to see Saviour, but no action though. Maybe Mia isn't that bad afterall. She did reveal her true identity to Athrun. But compared to the real Lacus, I still find her sort of childish in a way. The only freaky thing is she way idolise Lacus, so much so that she even like her Athrun! That's way too paranoid. She did reminds Athrun of the real Lacus though. Hope this wouldn't affect Athrun and Cagalli's relationship. From the looks of it, there may be some action in the next ep, but no signs of Saviour in the preview.

[dreamless]

anyone think it feels a bit eerie that there was a rumor floating around even before ep1 of GSD had aired that a Lacus fangirl is the fake Lacus and it turns out to be true

[brightman]

Originally Posted by dreamless

anyone think it feels a bit eerie that there was a rumor floating around even before ep1 of GSD had aired that a Lacus fangirl is the fake Lacus and it turns out to be true

Well, sometimes SEED can be a bit predictable...

[MrProphet]

Originally Posted by dreamless

anyone think it feels a bit eerie that there was a rumor floating around even before ep1 of GSD had aired that a Lacus fangirl is the fake Lacus and it turns out to be true

Ah, the wonderful rumour mill that is 2chan!

Ever heard the theory that if a million monkeys were typing constantly, the would eventually write all of Sheakspeare's works? Well, Futaba Channel is like that... 8)

[Rei_Ikari]

Originally Posted by MrProphet

Was it just me, or did anyone else find Mia cuter than the Original Lacus? And no, it's not the boobs... she just looked prettier. Subtly different from Lacus.

Oh, and I liked Lacus' shawl in the beginning... It suits her quite a lot. 8)

how dare say that Mia is cuter than Lacus-sama....*Boards ZGMF X99Z Haro gundam* Expect me at your house in half and hour....we're get things straight there and then...."Lacus Sama----I'm your most loyal supporter" [/insanity mode off]

Seriously...i think that there's more to a character being cute than just looks *looks at Mia...she does seem rather cute* Nooo....*slappes myself* mustn't get fooled....I prefer Lacus cause i kind of like her character....how she maintained that "stone attitude" in seed to give her soldiers support and only breaking down in Kira's arms.

And is it just me, or is Lacus turning into a houswife? Expect baby Kiras soon But with his mom around

[MrProphet]

Hey, I like Lacus better than Mia too (because Mia looks ready to become very Fllay-like if an unhappy moment strikes). That had nothing to do with my question.

I find Mia cuter because of her genki-attitude and a bit immature, pudgy-face look. She looks like a kid... an overgrown busty kid.

[Rei_Ikari]

She reminds me of FFX-2's ver of Rikku----same genkiness ...except that i like Rikku more...lol