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Perfect 10 | 28 | 42.42% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 16 | 24.24% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 16.67% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 12.12% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 4.55% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-09-24, 00:46 | Link #61 | |
The Lovable SuBiTA
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2012-09-24, 01:36 | Link #62 | |
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2012-09-24, 01:59 | Link #63 |
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Yuuya was indeed very badass in this episode... but I also agree with SoldierOfDarkness.
This might be the slowest-moving rescue operation I have ever watched in all of fiction. You are surrounded on virtually all sides by hordes of BETA, one of you is badly injured, you have only one nearby ally, and you have time to argue and blush over how you address each other? Seriously, Yuuya and Yui? Look, I get that the anime wants Yui to be a cute tsundere and everything, but can you please save this for after you make your getaway?
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2012-09-24, 02:09 | Link #64 |
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I found it strange that Stella did not engage the Fort Class until it had attacked Yuuya, considering that she did not move from her position on the watch tower. I would understand that the comms weren't working during that period so she couldn't warn Yuuya about it, but she has view over the base from there, so there is not reason why she didn't spot and engage the Fort Class beforehand.
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2012-09-24, 05:53 | Link #65 |
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The blonde chick killed the fort class so easily that makes me wonder why are they special again. Someone said that they were apc ( troops transporters) but I didn’t see any come from there or inside them.
There was some other battle, somewhere, at the same time. Don’t know why they don’t go back to the base to live and fight another day. The mentality of modern wars says that withdraw is not a coward action. The funniest thing is that it seems that the fort class is not so difficult to kill and there isn’t a laser class around. So they gave up their life’s and expensive mecha for nothing. Even if that place is very important, you can’t do anything if you are overrun. Probably I am thinking too much about this since no one was over watching them but the squadron’s leaders should know more… |
2012-09-24, 06:34 | Link #66 | |
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Sure thing. Shall we talk about how Yui was insanely cute when she affectionately called Yuuya's name with great concern? Mai Nakahara's voice is just divine in that part. Are you asking whether I've never read the actual material, and just used secondhand information from the ML wiki as a basis for my previous responses? Cool. Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate it, Timsel. |
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2012-09-24, 06:57 | Link #67 |
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lol yui moe meter sky rocketed in one ep this was really a moe epic in yui's case
anyway its the actual material or something thats close to a summary about the LN or VN (i dont want to know what happend in the game) that Im asking but rather how do you guys have confidence that the muv luv original MC (dont know his name) will wipe yuuya's ass in a TSF show down?? @grevier Right now I'm curious about the background of the scarlet twins wiki gave little info, yes I checked her thread and the only thing i got was talk about lesbians and who's "kyoko-sama" is she another alternative character if so what version
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2012-09-24, 10:37 | Link #70 | |
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it was after yuuya got hit that stella killed it
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2012-09-24, 11:34 | Link #71 | |
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2012-09-24, 11:45 | Link #72 | |
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Reposting after some edits. Seriously...
Watched the ep this morning, unable to reply to any posts until now thanks to my iPad being derp - for some reason it can't post on Asuki, but it can read. And it used to be able to do both before upgrading to iOS 6. Generally speaking, I have no major issues with the ep. All in all, I think it was well done, and served to highlight the drama, and the central theme of Muv-Luv, which is that the god of that universe is the Demon Murphy. I rather liked Yui's defrosting and embarrassed deredere. While some may wish to compare the relative skill levels of Takeru and Yuuya, without going into details I'll note that it's explicitly stated that Yuuya is seeing combat for the first time. All things considered, Yuuya is IMO doing quite well, for someone whose primary forte is not combat. And I was rather impressed with how he went for mobility kills on those Destroyers - sure, the head and body are protected by the shell, but not the legs, and if you can take the legs down, the Destroyer's stuck. I'm facepalming at not thinking of this earlier. Also, he deserves points for not giving up, even though 94 Second is getting beaten to scrap and practically everything is going wrong for him. Quote:
As for making Yui repeat herself simplest explanation is either 1) he can't believe she's being deredere; or two, as the cockpit block is open, the external mic is disabled. Quote:
Notice that in Stella's unit, Yui maintains consciousness, and doesn't black out, as the conventional takeoff has less g-forces acting on her body. As for why they don't do a gradual vertical takeoff like a helo, I have a feeling they probably can't do that; on the Harrier and the F-35B, the engine's thrust is diverted downwards at the center of the fuselage (Harrier) and from the centerish and aft (F-35B). Contrast this to the thruster placement on TSFs, which are angled more for STOVL takeoff, moving forward and above -hence jump thrust. Furthermore, helicopters achieve lift in a different manner: the rotor blades are wings and generate lift and downforce, which is spread over a wider area and can thus be more easily adjusted, compared to the two jet engines on a TSF. Haven't done this for real, but I've played Wings Over Europe and tried to massage an F-15's engines to do a gradual vertical climb; not possible unless I hit afterburner, at which point it shoots up into the sky, accelerating in vertical climb. In Take on Helicopters, vertical climb is a lot easier to do, since my climb rate can be adjusted by the collective, since there's constant lift being generated over a larger area. tl;dr, TSFs appear optimised for STOVL and less so at VTOL, though it certainly seems possible to VTOL. (If you can STOVL you can VTOL, but you may not necessarily be as good at the latter as you are the former.) Quote:
Then again, it is a conclusively proven fact that the higher brain functions of young male humans tend to receive a variable degree of impairment in the presence of an attractive female of the species. Quote:
Then again, I kinda have a feeling they're both balls at this whole interpersonal relationship thing. They're made for each other. Quote:
Fort-class are transports, and usually they're carrying them in their guts. My guess is that part of that horde of BETA we saw escorting the Fort in the last episode are the Fort's dismounts. The problem with Forts are that they are fuckton huge, and can swat you outta the sky with their stingers, whereupon their dismount Tank-class will then swarm you and eat you alive. If their stinger doesn't kill you first. If they catch you off-guard, they can kill you in a single strike, which almost happened to Yuuya. If you can attack from outside the range of their stinger, and actually see them coming, it's not too bad. Quote:
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'd speculate that perhaps Kyoko-sama was worried that relocating, even to dodge the Fort-classes, would leave a hole in their defensive line, which the BETA would exploit by swarming in and overwhelming everyone - from what I see, Hydra 1 is trying to keep things as an orderly tactical withdrawl, instead of degenerating into a rout (aka SQUAD BROKEN for all Warhammer 40K/Dawn of War/Company of Heroes players out there). Quote:
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2012-09-24, 12:47 | Link #75 |
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One thing about this episode that I think was deliberate, but wasn't effectively communicated was the sense of event timing.
My impression was that Stella's notice to Yuuya of the incoming BETA was the same time as when she first caught them on the radar. However, the way the timing of events played in the anime out made it look like Stella delayed reporting, while Yuuya/Yui were doing their in-cockpit tsuntsunderedere thing. Not saying it's a good thing, because that's a flaw with the presentation itself, but I feel like saying Yuuya/Yui were 'slow' is kind of the wrong way to put it. Sure, the urgency wasn't there, but they were acting well-within their expected time, given that the 15 minutes they've allocated was for transport the Railgun itself, which probably would've taken more time than to destroy it. The sudden pace and size of the BETA swarm was simply much larger and faster than Yuuya/Stella anticipated.
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The thing is literally an elephant wading in a blade of grass so I don't see how anyone could let such a giant thing sneak up on you. That and while they're low on ammo such a thing should be a high priority target. Quote:
I was simply stating that right after Yuuya blows up the gun and retrieves the module he should've left immediately rather than just act "cool". By the time Stella warns him that BETA were closing in on the hanger he barely had time to react. He knew beforehand that the BETA were already closing in and Stella told him to hurry up. That's all I'm going to say and leave it at that. |
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2012-09-24, 14:39 | Link #79 | |
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and if memory servs correctly it was yokohama base that had a hand in its development and as many know eveything that has to do with that base is odd in some way now that i think about it couldnt when they were taking off try to use i beleave it was called draft to give yuuya a speed boost knowing his engine was damaged now getting another look at when the shurinai was smashed into the wall the eyes were blinking i get the feeling zhar battalian will be impessed with yuuyas damage and kills
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