2008-04-28, 22:56 | Link #361 | |
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when I think about austrian laws it's pure luck that we are talking about a 73-year-old criminal - it's a problem when crimes happened long ago.. but this man will never get out of jail/mental home a short list on what you get for raping somebody in Austria: without injuring the victim an no pregnancy minimum is 6 months(!!!!) while maximum is 10 years, when the victim gets harmed or pregnant it's a minimum of 5 years to a maximum of 15 years, when the victim dies it's 10 to 20 years with the chance of a life sentence(but I never heard of anyone getting one)
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2008-04-28, 23:01 | Link #362 | |
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2008-04-29, 01:11 | Link #364 | |
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Oh, sorry, I thought we were discussing ideology in a serious and adult manner. Nothing to see here, move along.
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2008-04-29, 01:21 | Link #365 | |
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thanks to the right/conservative parties we have very strict laws when it comes to financial crimes, Wesley Snipes for example would more likely end up with 13 and not just 3 years for tax avoidance
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2008-04-29, 01:29 | Link #366 | |
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2008-04-29, 12:24 | Link #367 | |
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Or some politicians were worried about their own behavior in their private lives - hence the paltry minimum
Most likely the text was taken from some other boilerplate template and just managed to drift through legislation without ever really being thought about. You don't think politicians actually *think* closely about many of the bills they pass, do you? Its also the case that judges need flexibility for those murky cases where someone is claiming rape but the judge/jury would like to troutslap everyone including any witnesses for rampant idiocy (like a domestic violence trial my wife got to juror for recently --- the summary sounded cut'n'dried but by the time the details were fully explained, the jury wanted to put everyone involved in jail including the neighbors ). Quote:
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2008-04-29, 23:53 | Link #368 | |
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2008-04-30, 13:40 | Link #369 | |
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The daughter was kidnapped for 24 years and he only gets 15. Does that sound right to anyone?
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2008-04-30, 14:30 | Link #370 |
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That's why they're looking for more laws he's broken to staple to him.
I find it kind of interesting that rape is "more grave" than kidnapping (don't know if they differentiate between kidnapping and kidnapping-with-violence). I don't see what the maximum penalty is for kidnapping (holding someone against their will) or for domestic abuse .... hell, there's a whole mess of laws he's broken including probably violating local ordnances for remodeling without a permit. They'll just keep stacking infraction charges on him. I also don't know if the laws there permit sequential sentences rather than parallel sentences.
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2008-04-30, 15:53 | Link #371 |
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there's a chance to get him for murder/denial of assistance because of the dead baby - another option for a higher sentence is slavery
deprivation of freedom(=kidnapping?) has a maximum of 10 years as long as the kidnapping lasts longer than a month the problem with the laws is that nobody thought of such extreme crimes(most of them were created in the 70ies and adapted afterwards)
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2008-04-30, 17:19 | Link #372 |
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Oh wow 15years that is really light punishment compare to what he did. Then again this guy is pretty old so I don't think life in prison will be do much for him, this guy needs a death sentence. I really hope that Austrian court doesn't go light on him because of his age, his crime has to be one of the most disgusting crime in a century.
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2008-04-30, 18:30 | Link #373 |
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Death is just a quick way for this bastard to escape...... They need to torture this guy in the same he tortured his children or some other way....as long it get's him begging for mercy. Maybe like cut off his p**** or even his b***s
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2008-05-03, 23:21 | Link #374 | |
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2008-06-08, 01:48 | Link #375 |
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Just in. Today... just couple of hours ago, a young man drove a truck into crowd of pedestrian's in Akihabara, Tokyo. He then jumped out of the car, and proceeded to stab over 10 people with a knife. 17 people have been injured, and 5 of them have gone into cardiac arrest. (Of which, 3 have been reported dead so far)
Akihabara is, as you probably know, a mecca of anime/game otaku with dozens anime/manga stores, video game stores, and electronics. Sundays are " pedestrian's ‘paradise" day in Akihabara, where cars are not allowed to pass and pedestrians are free to walk on the road. The man was identified to be a 25 year old IT industry employee. Whether this crime was aimed at otakus out of hatred or not is unknown yet.
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2008-06-08, 02:29 | Link #376 |
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Sometimes what one hears is the individual is too much a coward to just hang himself, so he wants to take an "honor guard into hell" with him and then the government will take care of killing him.
It really isn't much use trying to over-analyze these fruitcakes --- they connect the dots in ways that just leave the rest of us saying, "what??!". I tend to think of them in the same category as freak events of nature since it seems most societies produce them on occasion. This sort of stuff must just shock the hell out of the japanese public
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2008-06-08, 04:25 | Link #377 | |
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to add to that news story aohige...
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i know japan "don't do helping others out and will ignore any signs of trouble" - but come on that's so extreme that he was able to take down so many people like that :\
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2008-06-08, 04:54 | Link #378 |
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All it takes is enough people distracted by their daily routine but yeah, its kind of surprising he was able to commit so much damage with one knife. He must have been in quite a frenzy. I recall a few other news stories that ended with the perp being gang-tackled by alert civilians quickly.... not so this time.
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2008-06-08, 05:27 | Link #379 |
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Mystique, from what I saw on the news, after he got out of the truck, he went around stabbing the people that were already on the ground and injured because of the truck + the people that were trying to help them, then ran through a couple of alleyways and stabbed people here and there.
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2008-06-08, 07:41 | Link #380 |
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so rather it's a hit and stab+run attack huh? :\
And yeah, those already injured on the ground wouldn't have had much of a chance and if you're in a society that's relatively safe, most people's instincts wouldn't be on high alert to react to defend or prevent any more bloodshed... Sad tale though, hope it doesn't give akihabara too much of a bad name (even more?)
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